FIRE’d comfortably, now helping my post college graduate daughter (25 yo in VHCOL city) I have indicated that we are not paying for her wedding ( in 2 years). Feeling guilty.

TL;DR : We subsidize most of the basic living expenses for our daughter and her fiancé while he is in school. We feel that our daughter will learn a valuable financial experience in saving, budgeting and planning if they pay for their own wedding without our help. Feeling guilty.

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I (63yo F) and husband (64yo) FIRE’d 7 years ago. Our NW is so much higher than expected with investments and we are on track to having way more as time goes on. We are trying to give our sole child (25yoF) $ now when she can benefit most rather than wait until we die. (Yes, we read Die With Zero).

We have always made it clear that we valued education, safe housing, health, and safe transportation when it came to spending money. We fully paid for her undergraduate college education, have fully funded her ROTH once she began working in hs, and continue to fund her ROTH with the excess 529 balance ( and will still have a balance leftover for her future use ). We pay their rent, bought their car ( used), fund their HSAs and Recently we have started an investment account for her for a future home purchase.

We recognize that the economic situation is very challenging for recent non-STEM graduates and our daughter is working part time as a server in a restaurant and at a law office. She moved to a VHCOL state so her fiancé could return to college for engineering. ( They live together and both work pt at the restaurant). She still hasn’t determined what she wants to do with her future, but we aren’t concerned as that will take time.

My daughter has never asked for anything. We have just volunteered because we saw the stress and impact on her mental and physical health when we didn’t initially help after college. She pays off credit cards fully every month. She has no debt. She and her fiancé pay for food, utilities, insurance, gas, pets, and entertainment. Her fiancé is very appreciative and good with financial planning and saving. My daughter is also very appreciative but has no interest in investing and happily spends any windfall $ that comes her way.

We are happy for their future wedding, but it’s not a priority for us ( we paid for our own wedding as poor graduate students back in 1990). We think they will prioritize better the size and cost of their wedding if they have to save and spend their own money. The fiancés family is not in the position to pay.

I go back and forth between feeling guilty and feeling comfortable with this. What do you think?

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u/One_Transition_1346 — 3 days ago

FIRE’d comfortably, now helping my post college graduate daughter (25 yo in VHCOL city) with rent, ROTH, phone, car, HSA, and have started a house fund for her future. But, I have not offered to pay for her wedding ( in 2 years). Am I wrong?

TL;DR : We subsidize most of the expenses for our daughter and her fiancé. We feel that our daughter will learn a valuable financial lesson in saving, budgeting and planning if they pay for their own wedding without our help.
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I (63yo F) and husband (64yo) FIRE’d 7 years ago. Our NW is so much higher than expected with investments and we are on track to having way more as time goes on. We are trying to give our sole child (25yoF) $ now when she can benefit most rather than wait until we die. (Yes, we read Die With Zero).

We have always made it clear that we valued education, safe housing, health, and safe transportation when it came to spending money. We fully paid for her undergraduate college education, have fully funded her ROTH to its limits once she began working in hs, and continue to fund her ROTH with the excess 529 balance ( but will still have a large balance leftover for her future use ). Recently we have started an investment account for her and max out gifting to it for a future home purchase.

We recognize that the economic situation is very challenging for recent non-STEM graduates and our daughter is working part time as a restaurant server because it pays better than working entry level front desk jobs ( with no chances for advancement). She moved to a VHCOL state so her fiancé could return to college for engineering. ( They live together and both work pt at the restaurant). She still hasn’t determined what she wants to do with her future, but we aren’t concerned as that will take time.

My daughter has never asked for anything. We have just volunteered because we saw the stress and impact on her mental and physical health when we didn’t initially help after college. She knows to pay off credit cards fully every month. She has no debt. She and her fiancé pay for food, utilities, insurance, gas, pets, and entertainment. Her fiancé is very appreciative and good with financial planning and saving. My daughter is also very appreciative but has no interest in investing and happily spends any windfall $ that comes her way.

We are happy for their future wedding, but it’s not a priority for us ( we paid for our own wedding as poor graduate students back in 1990). We think they will prioritize better the size and cost of their wedding if they have to save and spend their own money.

I go back and forth between feeling guilty and feeling comfortable with this. What do you think?

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Addendum: thank you everyone for your thoughts. It has turned out to be a very wide ranging discussion about whether supporting adult children is appropriate, helpful, harmful or just bad policy. Very interesting and I appreciate all the comments. We help because we can, think it is the right time in her life when it is needed, and feel that she has motivation and smarts to gain financial independence in years to come as she matures. The COL is roughly 80-90% higher in HI than the national average. They don’t plan to stay after her fiancé graduates. We don’t want her under housed or underfed until then, and have not promised future help when they move.

But anyway, I think we will sit down with the kids and explain our reasoning. They appreciate all we help and I think they will recognize that they can save because of our help, and the value of planning their own wedding.

Most likely we will gift towards a honeymoon.

2nd addendum: for those who fear my naivety, I have read the advice and will certainly communicate financial limits. Article link:
👉 advice on risks of financial help for kids.

u/One_Transition_1346 — 3 days ago

One of my EFT holdings is misidentified as another stock in Empower

Has anyone had a holding misidentified? I own AIS etf, but Empower shows my holding ATRS ( a pharmaceutical company that no longer trades as a stock and which I have never owned). I was hoping their recent maintenance session would have cleared this up but it hasn’t 😩

u/One_Transition_1346 — 16 days ago