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Using 2022-2025 scoring data, the percentile for a 180 LSAT score among test takers was 99.9th. In fact, I don't think it has ever been lower...

Until now. Using 2023-2026 scoring data, a 180 is a 99.8th percentile score when rounded to tenths/99.85th percentile when rounded to hundredths.

What's interesting, though, is that 2023, 2024, and 2025 are constants in this data. The new percentile just drops 2022 and adds 2026, which suggests there were a LOT more 180-scorers in 2026 than 2022.

The percentile shift may seem small, but it strikes me as quite significant given that the number of 180s in a given year is in the hundreds and that this data includes 3 years of constants.

I don't think it's possible to say how many more are being scored year-over-year because LSAC doesn't release the number of scores earned in a given year. Although LSAC released the number of applicants from last cycle and the year before that earned each score ( https://report.lsac.org/VolumeSummaryOriginalFormat.aspx ), applicants in a given year use scores from multiple cycles.

I love statistics, but I'm not an expert. Anyone have theories or different ways of interpreting this? Is it possible to draw any more definitive/precise conclusions?

Here's historical tests administered data if anyone finds that useful ( https://report.lsac.org/TestTakers.aspx ), but LSAC may use reportable scores instead of administered for calculating percentiles and I think we only have access to the number administered for older cycles.

What are they hiding? Who benefits from the lack of transparency? And who pays? Bar Bri has a lot to answer for. But Bar Bri would not have been able to provide substandard instruction for YEARS without law school demand and acquiescence.

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I am currently a 3L and can't wait to be done. I was dismissed my first year after my grades sucked. I truly had no idea what I was doing and it was right after Covid so everything with my first 1L sucked and was strange. Mentally and physically I was just not prepared for law school and had no one to ask how to prepare. Getting dismissed felt like the worst thing ever. Embarrassment, unworthiness and depression were the most prevelant feelings at the time. But I was able to get through it and how I will be graduating after redoing my 1L all over again (yes it was terrible).

The reason I am posting this is because most people who deal with this have no clue what to do or how to feel. I felt scared and all alone. But now I apparently made it my goal to help people to figure out what to do or how to handle this situation without being alone. I have so far advised multiple people and they are doing pretty good. I got good reviews so far lol.

General advice I can give:

1. You will be okay no matter what just keep moving no matter how hard it gets. This works whether you are dismissed or not.
2. Do not keep important shit in your school email because you can end up losing all the docs, contacts, and work.
3. If you are dismissed no matter how much it sucks, make sure you contact your school's administration about next steps. Most schools have appeals processes but it's hard to find what exactly they want you to do. Mine had a process where a tenured prof had to bring your case to the committee and none of my professors were willing to do it. But the only reason I found out about the appeals process was because I contacted a student I knew who got dismissed. None of the professors I contacted prior to that actually told me about the process. People in administration usually are very responsive and helpful so they can help you when you have no one else. Also if they are not responsive continue contacting the school until you get someone who can get you answers. Being relentless is important here.

I would like to mention that just because appeal exists does not mean it will be granted. I had a friend who got an appeal but the committee did not let them continue. 

1. After dismissal you will have to figure out what to do next. You can pursue another path but you can always go back to school. It is a hard decision but just because this happens does not mean your life is over even if it feels like that. 
2. GET A LEGAL JOB! This will be the most helpful thing if you want to go back to school. There are two ways you can come back. Either you apply to a new school or reapply from the one you got kicked from. I went back to the same school because I did not want to wait the 2 years to reapply fresh to another school and LSAC wasn’t that great and I REALLY did not want to retake the LSAC. (also that was the requirements I had to deal with. Does not mean that the standard).

The purpose of the legal job is that it will help you mostly for reapplication no matter where you go because it shows dedication to the legal profession. It's hard to find work but you can always apply to internships in court if money is not too much of an issue but small law firms work too. 

1. One thing these schools want to see with readmission is that the things that caused you to be dismissed will not affect you when you go back to school. So identify issues that caused you problems. Mine was legal writing cause my english sucked and also I had no clue what I was doing so when I got dismissed I took a course specifically for legal writing. So when I had to tell them (in my personal statement and interview) what issues caused my dismissal and what I do to fix them I had something to show. Even if the issues included factors outside of your control you have to show that you won't have the same problems.
2. Also most of the time they want to hear about things that can actually be fixed or that those issues won't be something you will have to deal with again. Also blaming the school won’t be helpful no matter how much they suck. I had to be a kiss ass when I had my interview and worked out for me lol.

Honestly, the best thing you can do in your first semester is to completely focus on your studying. Orgs and extracurriculars are nice but they won’t help you if you can’t continue being in the school. Classes are your first priority. 

Last advice I can give anyone: Don’t listen to other people’s opinion about your situation. There will be bad actors or people with bad opinions but they dont live your life so don’t let them be the judge of your life. You will be okay

As someone currently in law school who religiously checked this sub (+the main one) while I was in the application process, take everything you read on here with a massive grain of salt.

It’s great that these communities exist and they can be helpful with certain things. Yet, at the same time, most of these comments are truly the blind leading the blind. The perceptions of schools, employment opportunities and how financial aid/scholarships work tend to be wildly misguided.

At the end of the day, if you’re not at a T14, your future is all going to come down to grades, networking and extracurriculars. As you are trying to decide which schools to apply to and eventually attend, do your own research, reach out to any lawyers/law students you have any sort of connection with and figure out what makes the most sense for you personally.

4.0, 168 LSAT

Im applying to schools in the Southeast and care about scholarship and location more than prestige. I want to go into family law, and I have no big law interest at all. I am applying pretty broadly to schools in/near cities I’d like to live in and it’ll basically come down to where i get a good scholarship. In a perfect world i’d LOVE to live in charleston, but i haven’t considered applying because i hear pretty bad things about them being predatory/ having bad job outcomes. can someone fill me in on the school? would going there be a bad thing given my stats/interest? how do they stack up compared to a school like stetson? thanks!!!

I just got a PM from someone who I assumed was PMing me about looking for tutoring. Instead it was someone who wanted to tell me about this exciting opportunity (/s) to get a kickback for referring students to his course.
Just wanted to give students the heads up that if a tutor seems REALLY eager to tell you to sign up with "LSAT Self Prep," it's probably not because they think it's the best course, but because they are being paid if you do. I can't imagine it's much, given the cost of the subscription, which in a way makes it even sadder. I'm guessing too that none of them will be disclosing that they were paid to make that recommendation.

Oh golly, another depressed 1L post, here it goes...

I'm currently enrolled in a part-time hybrid program, and I work full-time, for context.

I was so excited for law school. It was always something I looked forward to. I never really intended to do a part-time program, but I decided that I didn't want to move. I'm also not trying to be a hot-shot attorney, so I figured where I went didn't matter.

The problem? I hate it so much. I hate trying to open a textbook and get the reading done. I hate watching all the videos. I hate that a class worth one credit takes up so much time. I hate that I'm taking five classes at once. I hate that I don't understand half of what I read. I hate that this program was advertised as part-time and for working people, but all of the 2L and 3L TA's say it is anything but that.

I just hate it. The only thing I enjoy is Torts, really.

I hated orientation. I hate that I have a "residential weekend" next week. I genuinely do not want to go.

I started a new job two weeks ago, and I guess it's making me question if I even want to be an attorney. And even though this job is easier than my last and thus not emotionally draining, I still do not have the energy to keep up. And I feel so far behind.

Honestly? I want to drop out. It's only one month in, and I feel like law school has taken so much of my life away from me. I don't have any time for my hobbies. Barely any time to clean, cook, and grocery shop (things I do enjoy, seriously). If I spend an off day with my partner, then I fall behind even more.

And I know someone will comment that law school isn't supposed to be easy. I know that. I knew it would be harder than undergrad. But - and it might be an unpopular opinion - no job, school, or obligation should take away all your time. And that's what I feel like law school has done.

If you couldn't tell by this point either, I am very depressed, but only about school. When I'm at work, cooking, doing chores, I'm happy. And I'm hoping that I just flunk out at the end of the semester. Or get through it.

So... I guess any advice? Anyone else going through this? Any advice on dropping out? I just feel so alone through all of this.

The ABA voted 10–6 to repeal Standard 206, which required law schools to take “concrete” action toward racial and gender diversity and inclusion. The ABA says the repeal was necessary to preserve its recognition as the nation’s law school accreditor amid growing pressure from the Trump administration, state courts, and the Department of Education.

The repeal is effective immediately as of today, September 8, 2026.

My animals provide wonderful companionship and I am so glad to have them.

This grift has become my niche interest. @ markeinlaw is charging $100 for his transfer guide that he calls “the best thing for you guys.”

He allegedly transferred from Widener PA (rank 175) to St. John’s (rank 62). I say allegedly because when asked where he transferred to, he’ll say it’s “none of your business.”

While that transfer is an upgrade, it hardly qualifies him to sell a $100 guide and call it the best thing.

I transferred from a T60 to a T14 using FREE resources, so to those interested in transferring please avoid this grift.

Most helpful were:

Status Check with Spivey Consulting: episodes “Transferring Law Schools” and “Interview with a Harvard Law School Transfer”

r/lawschooltransfer

and confiding in a trusted professor who guided/supported me.

You got this!