Help with idea to turn a paint wrinkle into lightning bolt look

Help with idea to turn a paint wrinkle into lightning bolt look

I was recently spraying metal flake on some tumblers, primarily to play around with. My intention was to spray out multiple colors and have the tumbler actually be a spray out of, in this case silver metal flake over a grey base, with several different candies. While spraying one of the tumblers, which is actually a 1/2 gallon one, a few large wrinkles happened as soon as I sprayed the flake. I know why it happened and initially was a little pissed but realized it could actually turn into something cool. What I am thinking about doing is having it look like lightning but am not sure what's the best method to use. The metal flake is still there, so I wanted to use as much candy as I can. My thought is to use some black candy and spray around the wrinkles, then come back across the top of the wrinkle and scuff it back off, so that the tops are light colored again, then use red candy. I can do panel art but struggle with this part of creating art but am wanting to learn.

My other idea would be to have it look like snow flakes. For that I was thinking of spraying it with white, then coming back and having the contrast where the tops are silver and then spraying it with a blue candy. I appreciate any guidance. I actually have 2 large wrinkles that each could be a separate style, so I could have lightning and a snowflake. If this was a panel then I would just shoot a test piece but creating a test panel that is metal flake over silver base, with a lot of wrinkle texture would be a pain in the ass and probably fail. Thanks for any insight.

Just in case there's different colors that I could use, my candies are Blue, Red, Fuchsia, Purples, Greens, Gold, Orange and Black.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 6 days ago

Anyone with experience spraying Candy over a color shift pearl?

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I was hoping this color shift would give me a little bit more orange, rather than just the copper. I do love the look, just wishing I could get a little more out of the orange side. I have read, and seen 1 video, where Candy was applied over a color shift to get some deeper colors, but I don't know if it will work for me or not. I am worried that the orange candy will mute the green, which I also love, and make it more of a brown color. As always, I appreciate any knowledge you are able to share. Ultimately I will need to do a spray out, if I go down this path, most likely with a diluted ratio, so I can dial it in, but if you think it's a moot point then I won't even do a spray out

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u/ProcedureNo7149 — 10 days ago

Asking for some suggestions on flake and pearl combination

I have a question regarding color shift pearls along with flake. I am a huge fan of copper/orange, especially when it has some shine to it, which is why I am going with the supershift pearls that I have chosen. I am considering also incorporating some flake, nothing crazy but maybe a 10% coverage. The base will be black and I know that's where the color shift is getting it's ability to do it's thing, which will also give me a nice base for the silver flake I am considering. I am curious if I would be better off to lay the flake down first, then apply the pearls or the other way. My gut tells me that the pearl load (25g/gal) won't bother the flake, but I am uncertain. I have used pearls several times over flake, just to have the different textures, depending on what I was looking for, but never sprayed the combination over bedliner, and that small texture. I am also going to be doing a ghost effect using some vinyl stars, along the rail of the running boards, which I will remove after spraying the pearls so they will be a black background color with that small amount of flake, hopefully giving them just a little bit of pop.

I know that a spray out will be my best bet but I wanted to ask if anyone here with a lot more experience than me would share some knowledge.

Thanks

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u/ProcedureNo7149 — 15 days ago
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Looking for some advice

I have these running boards on my truck, which after a year I noticed the factory chinesoliner that was sprayed on them, was failing around the edges in several places. Fortunately, and to my great surprise, I contacted them and they refunded me 1/2 the cost of them, which will at least pay for my materials to fix them. While removing them, I noticed that one of them had a gallon or more of water in the tube, which runs the length of the running board. There wasn't nasty rusty ass water that came out, just nasty black water that stinks. My plan is to strip all the areas to bare metal that had a failure of the factory applied chinesoliner, then spray 2k primer/sealer, and applying the SpeedoKote T-Rex spray on bedliner and spraying "Sour Lava" color shift pearl, then clear coating it. I have already sanded the majority of the running boards with 80 grit and it seems that everywhere, other than the edges with the failure, are there permanently. It all sands out smooth, or as smooth, so there's not an issue with texture preventing sanding down to a solid surface, but I don't want to take any real chances.

My main question is regarding the water in the tube. The tube has a plug, which was missing, so I know how the water intrusion occurred. What I don't know is how to stop the rust, on the inside of the pipe that was full of water. I have thought about putting some type of thin oil in the pipe, which would allow it to move around while driving, but I don't know if that's the right thing to do or not. I generally own my trucks for about 10 years, so the repair I am making I don't want to have to redo any time soon.

My second question is regarding the Clear Coat. I don't see any reason to clear the bottom of these, especially since it's a 2K product that's not designed to need it. My plan is to only clear the top and sides, essentially only what I can get to without needing to turn over the running boards, will be sprayed. Will I be leaving myself up for any failures, along the edge of the clearcoat? I shouldn't have any issues getting it sprayed within the recoat window, so it should be able to have a chemical bond, or at least in my mind. If it would be better to spray the bottom as well, then I can always scuff the bottom and clear it.... or do the bottom and scuff the top prior to clear, I think you understand where I am going with this.

Any solid recommendations would be appreciated.

Thanks

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 15 days ago

Making my first set

Almost done with my first set of boards. I used all automotive paints; metal flaked, candy paint and silver leafing along with A LOT of clear coat. I was surprised how much time I have in these boards. I initially thought that I would have about 20 hours in them and about $350-$400 worth of materials but by the time I spray 3 more coats of clear coat, I will have about 40 hours invested in them.

I know they are going to play extremely fast because of the clear coat. Is there anything I can spray on them to slow them down? In reality, I guess it doesn't matter about the speed, after we get used to them. Then we will have a home field advantage by being used to them.

What storage/travel bags would you recommend? I have a trip to the beach for a week, this upcoming week, and want to have a way to transport them safely.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 1 month ago

Almost Done

I almost have these finished. I have them sanded down for one last round of high solids clear that I am going to spray in the morning after work. I think the leafing turned out really good, it was a challenge, but I love the way the turned leafing looks and gives that 3D look. Pictures don't really do justice but I will see if I can post a video of them in the sun light Monday or Tuesday.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 1 month ago

Making some headway

I am making some headway. I still have to finish the borders, which are going to be a black framing, with silver leafing. Also going to add We the People and 1776 on them with leafing as well. It has been a fun project that has consumed more time than I thought originally, but will be worth it. When I put them in the sun for the first time the other day after clearing the 2nd time, after putting the pink paint and flake down, I was damn near blinded. God I love that shimmer. My original guess of 20 hours will have to be amended to 30 hours.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 1 month ago
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Metal Flake is an addiction

My wife said she wanted some Cornhole boards, so I said OK, they are going to be shiny with lots of metal flake. I had AI render something very similar to what I want them to look like.

I learned a lot doing the metal flake on my golf cart, so in comparison I believe this is going to be a breeze. Last time I didn't use slow hardener or High Solids clear coat. I was extremely surprised how much difference they both have seemed to make to get these boards leveled out. I am using the Dirty Wizard holographic flake for the silver and will be flaking lightly over top of the candy paint, to give it some extra boost. I can already tell these boards are going to play extremely fast. I hate to think what it would cost to pay someone to make a set of these, but I feel like it would have to be in the $2500 range. I will have $450-500 in supplies and think it's going to take an honest 20 hours of work to make them right. Does anyone else have experience with making a set of boards like this?

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 1 month ago

Roof reinforcement ideas

I have an Ezgo Marathon that is having some issues with sagging, after mounting a stereo overhead. Initially I didn't notice a problem but after the recent heat of 100 degree days, it has started to sag, then to make matters worse we had a significant rail storm, causing the roof to hold water....adding weight and making it sag even worse. I have temporarily propped it up with a broom stick, but that's obviously not the answer. I am wondering if anyone has had this happen to them and any answers they have come up with as a true fix. My only thoughts are to add another rib across the middle, width wise, bolting it onto the side rails. I really don't want to remove the overhead radio but that may be the only answer. My last resort is the possibility of fiber glassing in an additional brace(s). I just finished painting and metal flaking the roof so that's not my preference, but shit happens. Thanks for any ideas or fixes that you may have done in the past.

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u/ProcedureNo7149 — 2 months ago
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Finally 98% Finished

I am FINALLY 98% finished with my golf cart. I still have to finish mounting rear lights, mount a few switches etc, but otherwise it's finally done. I know it's not everyone's taste, but it's what I wanted it to be and that's what's important to me. It has been a lot of work and money, but it's also been very therapeutic for me. I have gained a lot of respect for the folks who do this for a living, and or hobby. I learned to weld, fabricate, do body work the right way, paint (hopefully the right way) and fight through a daily struggle with ADHD to stick with a project through the end. Now I just need a few months to finish some other projects around the house, while rebuilding my bank account and I will find another project that I can do some painting on.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 3 months ago

Metal Flake American Flag

American Flag for the back of my golf cart. It may not be perfect but I think it turned out pretty damn good. I knew I wanted to make sure I used the metal flake for the stars and stripes, the red is actually Piss Off Pink and the blue is Mile High Blue Candy. The flake is Purple Royale as well as Dirty Wizard, both from Tropical Glitz.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 3 months ago

Metal Flake Friday for me

A few pictures of the metal flake on my cart. The purple is Purple Royale and silver is Dirty Wizard, both from Tropical Glitz. I did the top side of the roof with the Purple Royale. The other panel, which is the fold down part of the rear seat (essentially the truck bed of the cart) is going to be an American flag, using the metal flake for the stars and stripes and I will be using Piss Off Pink for the red stripes. That will be done by the end of the weekend. I have a few touchup places on the bottom of the roof, with shadowing the spider webs, then it needs to be sanded down one more time to finish getting the texture out, from the metal flake, before laying down 3 last coats of high solids clear on Sunday. There are a radio box that goes on one end and a speaker box that go on the other, of the roof panel; both of them are the Purple Royale metal flake.

Metal Flake isn't for the faint of heart. I sprayed most of it outside, until it started storming and I had to move back into my garage to spray the smaller panels and radio/speaker boxes.

u/ProcedureNo7149 — 3 months ago

I have been building this golf cart for a few months. It started out as a simple upgrade from 36-48 volts, to ride my Grandson around the neighborhood, which turned into a full rewire and rebuild of everything that isn't metal (even a lot of that replaced). During the rebuild I wanted to get rid of all the big plastic pieces on the front end so I chose to redesign the front end, out of an old aluminum toolbox. After adding lights, the cart spoke to me and became "Gwyn" and the rest has been history.

Before this I had never sprayed anything other than some Rustoleum/Krylon etc. I didn't want to go that route, being I was spending all the time with the electrical and metal work, I thought it deserved to have it done using the right products, hopefully being used the right way by myself. I started with a gold metal flake and mixed the green candy as a custom color using Lemonhead Candy and Mile High Blue Candy. The Purple is a mix of Hoo Doo Voo Doo Purple and ghost purple pearl, over black. To get the lace patterns I sprayed the lace on the hood I used Piss Off Pink, which is the same as the other accents. The Lace on the back fenders was created by spraying black over the gold metal flake, which I used the Purple Candy Mix over everything, giving it the layered look.

Before this I had also never used Silver leafing, but I now have that under my belt as well. I can't draw a stick man without tracing that, so this has been part of my struggle. I know she's not perfect but I feel like for a first timer, it has turned out amazing; I have seen a lot worse from paint shops who do this for a living. I am currently painting the top as well, which is Tropical Glitz Dirty Wizard Holographic Silver on the bottom, that I am going to add a large American Flag, using Blood Shot Red Candy and Mile High Blue Candy, using the metal flake as the white stripes and the stars. The topside will be Tropical Glitz Purple Royale Metal Flake.

I still have a panel across the bottom of the front, which will essentially be the remainder of the face, that's going to be the same Purple Royale metal flake. I am going to use the Piss Off Pink to create some lips on it as well.

I know this isn't everyone's taste, but I think you can still appreciate the time and craftsmanship that's gone into it. There is A LOT of clear coat on this. Having to clear between the layers of paint, it has added up. I think in total there has been 15-18 coats of clear on most parts, which was sanded back down between layers. I should be finished with it in about 2 weeks, since that's the length of time I need to get the roof done since the bottom will require spraying clear 8 times in total and the top side should only require 5, each needing a day to cure before I can sand it back down to add graphics etc.

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u/ProcedureNo7149 — 4 months ago