Best to leave Belarus alone as is

We have a massive known to invade enemy to our south. Keep the peace with Europe and prepare for southern invaders. Sound good? I help in the defense in the south

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u/Quick_Switch_9601 — 12 hours ago
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How do you think hazbin hotel would work if it was using aspects from eastern orthodoxy rather then dantes inferno, protestant views?

(First off this isnt meant to be my mouth piece but a community discussion of a idea. Eastern Orthodoxy is often labeled as the first sect of Christianity. A open forum not my soap box but i will give my take for others to read and me to read others!)

To look at the Hazbin Hotel universe through the lens of Eastern Orthodoxy, the show itself would be considered completely upside down.

In Hazbin Hotel , the central problem is that nobody knows what the rules are for getting into Heaven, the angels commit a yearly genocide out of fear of a demonic uprising, and Charlie has to build a rehabilitation clinic to manually "fix" souls so they can sneak past a broken system.

If an Eastern Orthodox theologian watched Hazbin Hotel, they would point out that the show's entire concept of "heresy" and how the afterlife operates actually relies heavily on corrupted Western (Catholic/Protestant) ideas, and that an Orthodox version of the show would look completely different.

Charlie’s idea that a sinner can be redeemed and move from Hell to Heaven is treated by the high angels (like Sera and Adam) as a dangerous, impossible heresy. The show’s version of Heaven operates on a strict legalism. Once a "judgment panel" stamps your file "Hell," you are locked in a separate geographic torture chamber forever. Under this logic, Charlie trying to move a soul from Hell to Heaven breaks the cosmic law.

In Eastern Orthodoxy, Charlie’s plan isn't a heresy at all it's standard theology. The Orthodox Church explicitly teaches that the souls in the "intermediate state" after death can still grow closer to God, change their disposition, and find comfort through the prayers of the living. Orthodoxy does not view Hell as a locked cage, but as a state of mind. Therefore, the high angels treating redemption as a "heresy" would make the angels look like the true heretics who don't understand God's love.

Heaven and Hell as the Exact Same Room

The biggest structural change would be the animation of the world itself. In the show, Hell is a gritty, red, violent version of Los Angeles, while Heaven is a pristine, corporate, golden paradise.

In an Orthodox version, there would be no portal between Heaven and Hell because they would be the exact same space. Both the angels and the sinners would be standing in the exact same radiating, brilliant Light of God. To the "winners" (the saints), that Light feels like paradise. the "sinners" (the demons), that exact same Light feels like burning, suffocating heat because their souls are full of hate.

Charlie's Hotel wouldn't be trying to buy a bus ticket to a different city; the Hotel's job would be giving sinners "aloe vera" and spiritual medicine so their souls could learn to tolerate the light they are already standing in.

Sir Pentious's Redemption is Pure Orthodoxy. A massive moment in the show occurs when Sir Pentious sacrifices himself to save his friends, dies, and suddenly vanishes from Hell and materializes right in front of the Seraphim in Heaven. The angels are shocked because they didn't authorize it.

An Orthodox Christian would look at that scene and say, "Exactly. That is how it works." In Orthodoxy, salvation is not a legal checklist of rules you have to pass. It is about the transformation of the human heart. The second Sir Pentious truly gave up his ego, loved his friends, and committed an act of absolute, selfless love, his internal condition flipped from "Hell" to "Heaven". God's light stopped burning him and instantly welcomed him. The show presents this as a systemic glitch, but to the East, it is the fundamental law of the universe.

Finally, the show mixes up the names of angels. It portrays Seraphim (like Sera and Emily) as humanoid rulers sitting in an office making political decisions. In ancient Orthodox angelology (which follows the texts of Pseudo-Dionysius), the Seraphim are the highest order of angels. They don't run empires or host meetings; they are described as six-winged, burning creatures of pure fire who fly directly around the throne of God, shouting praises so loud the foundations of the universe shake. They are too holy and terrifying to care about demonic population control.

If Hazbin Hotel were written by an Eastern Orthodox writer, Charlie would be the ultimate hero of traditional faith, not a rebel. The villain wouldn't be "Heaven's rules," but rather the angels' own cold, legalistic egos that blinded them to the fact that God's mercy doesn't have a clock on it.

u/AdStandard6074 — 2 months ago

A Explanation of why there's backlash (without memes)

For years, Bokoen1 maintained a very strict, zero-tolerance policy against extremism within his group (the BOBG), which makes his own "crashout" rant look completely hypocritical

The Precedent He Set (The Dressel Ban)

The most famous example of Bo cleaning house was when he permanently banned a core group member named Dressel.

  • Dressel was kicked out of the group and completely erased from the channel after it was revealed he was pushing alt-right, racist, and neo-Nazi rhetoric.
  • He had actively downplayed Nazi atrocities, cited Holocaust-denying historians like David Irving, and compared Dutch resistance fighters to terrorists.
  • Bo and the community rightly banned him because they didn't want the channel associated with the normalization of genocidal ideas or hate speech.

The ultimate irony is that Bo used the exact same fundamental logic that he banned Dressel for.

  • When Dressel normalized Nazi rhetoric, Bo kicked him out to protect the community.
  • When Bo turned around and publicly advocated for the nuclear eradication of Moscow and the Soviet populace, he crossed the exact same red line into promoting mass atrocities and ultra-nationalist hate speech.

When other members of his Discord or stream group stepped over the line into edgy, fascist, or hateful territory, Bo's administration moved quickly with bans to keep the brand corporate-friendly and safe. But when it was his own political triggers and personal biases being pushed, he completely ignored his own rules. He assumed that because his hatred was directed toward Russia, it would somehow be seen as acceptable geopolitical "history bro" banter.

The community's response has been clear: You cannot spend years claiming you are running a clean, anti-extremist gaming group, only to drop the mask and spew genocidal rhetoric the second you get angry.

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u/Quick_Switch_9601 — 3 months ago