u/Radiant_Stress_5637

I do not understand the hype. Like where is the scandal?

Owens was definitely obsessed and bizarre which could be entertaining to some extent I suppose, but excessive litigiousness over stupid & petty things, faked pregnancies, and false abuse allegations in civil court are all like, pretty common?
To be clear, Clayton was very much a victim of this deluded girl and she deserved every bit of consequence she got. But the justice system actually worked incredibly quickly and effectively in holding Owens accountable and vindicating the victims, and Clayton had the full support of both the wider public and the courts over the course of this entire thing. Sooo again what’s the scandal?
To me, this was like one step above a TMZ segment in terms of impact and relevance. I’d understand if people just like the messy, reality tv-adjacent vibe of it all, but people are like praising this podcast as amazing and I don’t get it 😭

So what am I missing?

Am I the only person who does not understand the hype of this podcast? I was seriously underwhelmed and don’t see the point. Like truly, where is the scandal? Owens was definitely obsessed and bizarre which was entertaining to some extent, sure. But excessive litigiousness over stupid petty things, faked pregnancies, and false abuse allegations in civil court are all like, pretty common?

And for as much as they talked about Clayton being hated, both the courts and the public pretty explicitly backed him throughout the entirety of these very short proceedings. Not to mention, her bringing Clayton into a paternity lawsuit is truly the best possible scenario for this kind of thing. She has to prove TO THE COURTS that there is a baby and that it has his dna. Which is exactly what he wants!? She gave him a gift dude 😭

To be clear, Clayton was very much a victim of this crazy girl, and she deserved every bit of consequence she got, but the justice system actually worked incredibly swiftly and efficiently to hold her accountable and vindicate him. Like so swiftly and effectively, that’s the most shocking part of the podcast to me😭.

To me, this was like one step above a TMZ segment in terms of impact and relevance. I’d understand if people just like the messy, reality tv adjacent vibe of it all, but people are seriously praising this podcast as amazing and I don’t get it 😭😭

So what am I missing??

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For context, my (30 F) therapist charges $200 per 45 minute session and I make about $50,000 a year in California. I have been going to therapy once a week for about a year and a half. The amount I spend per month on therapy is essentially another rent payment and I have zero savings, but I still prioritize it to help manage my clinical depression/ adhd.

When I first started with this therapist I was in a pretty bad place, so I was attending sessions 2x/week. My family assisted with a few payments here and there, but they were not regularly paying for my sessions. When I brought up wanting to switch to once a week due to not being able to afford the cost, my therapist’s response was that she “didn’t think that was a good idea” and that I should consider asking my parents for money.

This felt a little weird to me, but even after putting my ego aside and asking for assistance from family, I still couldn’t justify the cost and eventually switched to once a week and stuck with that for the past year.

I recently left my job of 3 years for a higher paying position, however the new work environment turned out to be horrible and my mental health started tanking, so I quit. I was originally supposed to return to my old job, however that option fell through due to an unexpected budget cut in my old department. I am currently looking for work and my funds are dwindling fast. I have already asked my parents for assistance with my rent this month and will need to ask again for the upcoming month.

After notifying my therapist that I would need to cancel our sessions until I was able to find another job, her response was “it seems like therapy and your mental health is pretty important, have you asked your father for help with that?”

While my parents are supportive, they are not particularly pleased I quit my job before securing another one (which I get) and they are not an endless cash flow. Not to mention, I’ve spoken at length with my therapist about how my parents have not offered to outright pay for sessions or set up a long term payment plan despite them knowing my financial situation , which to me makes it pretty clear they are willing to help here and there, but not regularly.

Is my therapist crossing a line by constantly expecting me to ask my parents for money?

For context, my (30 F) therapist charges $200 per 45 minute session and I make about $50,000 a year in California. I have been going to therapy once a week for about a year and a half. The amount I spend per month on therapy is essentially another rent payment and I have zero savings, but I still prioritize it to help manage my clinical depression/ adhd.

When I first started with this therapist I was in a pretty bad place, so I was attending sessions 2x/week. My family assisted with a few payments here and there, but they were not regularly paying for my sessions. When I brought up wanting to switch to once a week due to not being able to afford the cost, my therapist’s response was that she “didn’t think that was a good idea” and that I should consider asking my parents for money.

This felt a little weird to me, but even after putting my ego aside and asking for assistance from family, I still couldn’t justify the cost and eventually switched to once a week and stuck with that for the past year.

I recently left my job of 3 years for a higher paying position, however the new work environment turned out to be horrible and my mental health started tanking, so I quit. I was originally supposed to return to my old job, however that option fell through due to an unexpected budget cut in my old department. I am currently looking for work and my funds are dwindling fast. I have already asked my parents for assistance with my rent this month and will need to ask again for the upcoming month.

After notifying my therapist that I would need to cancel our sessions until I was able to find another job, her response was “it seems like therapy and your mental health is pretty important, have you asked your father for help with that?”

While my parents are supportive, they are not particularly pleased I quit my job before securing another one (which I get) and they are not an endless cash flow. Not to mention, I’ve spoken at length with my therapist about how my parents have not offered to outright pay for sessions or set up a long term payment plan despite them knowing my financial situation , which to me makes it pretty clear they are willing to help here and there, but not regularly.

Is my therapist crossing a line by constantly expecting me to ask my parents for money?

I [30f] have been working a few case management jobs since earning my Bachelors in Psychology in 2022.

For three years I worked in a county jail (which housed prison inmates as well) as a part of their reentry program. I facilitated in-custody groups on reentry curriculum and held one-on-ones with my clients to assist them through the program. I was trained and certified to administer certain assessments related to criminogenic needs, and was responsible for assisting with resources for up to one year post release. After 3 years I transferred to the county probation department doing the same job.

I absolutely loved it. Loved working with that population, loved facilitating groups, and loved administering assessments. When it came to navigating resources however…. I won’t sugar coat it, I f-ing hated it. The lack of available resources and the hopelessness that I felt when I was not able to fulfill a requirement of my position (providing said resources) was incredibly demoralizing and stressful.

I now work in a resource-brokering case management position under cal-aim community supports. I HATE IT. For all the reasons I stated above, and more. I’ve read enough now to know that these jobs under cal aim do not have great reputations. But it’s raising questions in me about what kind of degree I want to pursue moving forward.

My ultimate goal is to work with justice involved populations and conduct psychological assessments. Translation: I would love to get a PhD in clinical psychology at some point, however I do not believe I have the ability or research oriented drive to get into a clinical psych PhD program at the moment. I am also interested in providing therapy, teaching, and facilitating treatment groups, which is something I know I can do with an LCSW in California.

After doing a lot of research and receiving personal input from lots of different mental health professionals (LCSW’s and multiple MFT’s I’ve worked with) I’ve been told an LCSW is the best and most practical route considering my interest in working with substance abusing and justice involved populations, and for the ability to go into private practice.

However as I stated before, I HATE case management and resource navigation.

If I move forward with pursuing an LCSW, how much of my career will be oriented towards resource navigation and case management? Because if it’s always going to be a major component of the career, I don’t think I can do it.

I appreciate any and all feedback and thanks for taking the time to read.

*Note: I apologize if my post isn’t formatted or posted correctly, I always struggle with posting on reddit.

I [30f] have been working a few case management jobs since earning my Bachelors in Psychology in 2022.

For three years I worked in a county jail (which housed prison inmates as well) as a part of their reentry program. I facilitated in-custody groups on reentry curriculum and held one-on-ones with my clients. I was trained and certified to administer certain assessments, and was responsible for assisting with resources up to year post release. After 3 years I transferred to the county probation department doing the same job.

I absolutely loved it. Loved working with that population, loved facilitating groups, and loved administering assessments. When it came to navigating resources however…. I won’t sugar coat it, I f-ing hated it. The lack of available resources and the hopelessness that I felt when I was not able to fulfill a requirement of my position (providing said resources) was incredibly demoralizing and stressful.

I now work in a resource-brokering case management position under cal-aim community supports. I HATE IT. For all the reasons I stated above. I’ve read enough now to know that these jobs under cal aim do not have great reputations. But it’s raising questions in me about what kind of degree I want to pursue moving forward.

My ultimate goal is to work with justice involved populations and conduct psychological assessments. Translation: I want to get a PhD in clinical psychology. I am also interested in providing therapy, teaching, and facilitating treatment groups, which is something I know I can do with an LCSW.
However as I stated before, I HATE case management and resource navigation.

I do not believe I have the ability to get into a clinical psych PhD program at the moment, and after doing a lot of research and receiving personal input from lots of different mental health professionals (LCSW’s and multiple MFT’s I’ve worked with) I’ve been told an LCSW is the best and most practical route considering my interest in substance abusing and justice involved populations.

If I move forward with pursuing an LCSW, how much of my career will be oriented towards resource navigation and case management? Because if it’s always going to be a major component of the career, I don’t think I can do it.

I appreciate any and all feedback and thanks for taking the time to read.