u/ReasonablePlane8893

I was scrolling through Reddit when I found this post on r/l4d2

I read through it and thought to myself: "This is either fake, or OP set his partner up for failure." So I posted this comment under it. The result as expected caused a cataclysmic eruption, many people commented arguing against me for daring to have such an unpopular opinion so I replied to my own comment to add this. You can read every reply and see every comment people typed under mine but beware, you may want to wear a tinfoil hat or else you'll lose a few braincells.

So I'm asking, am I in the wrong for thinking that this post is complete BS?

posts in case the links are broken:

>[OP]
Having a conversation with my partner talking about old video games we enjoy. I mention Left for Dead 2 as this game is a classic and I spent so many nights in my teens playing it. After saying she hasn’t heard of it I purchase a couple copies off eBay.

>I hosted a few private versus games for us so she could get a brief understanding his to use the Infected.

>Game 1: 2 minutes in she gets kicked for not being able to keep up.

>Game 2: Kicked again for not being aware of how to optimally use Charger (Dead Centre) at this point we’re just getting frustrated so we call it a night.

>Today, we decide to put her as the host so she can’t get kicked. It’s going well. She’s laughing and having a good time. Then, the chapter before the Finale. 2 of her team mates shoot her down and incapacitate her. It was a very close game. To here laughs turn to confusion and sadness was genuinely so sad.

>So yeah I just wanted to say fuck this community. Always kicking players like you’re in a comp tournament. Not giving newer players the chance to play. We won’t be playing again. Rant over:)

>[Me]
You throw a new player straight into versus despite the fact they have never played a single campaign mission and you're the one complaining versus is toxic? Yes Versus can be toxic but at least have your partner play all the campaigns several times before trying versus. You are part of the problem and you blame the versus community for your obvious mistake.

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>[Me] (Reply to own comment)
Half of you people don't even play L4D2, let alone Versus so let me give you the facts.
- OP buys two copies of L4D2 for himself and his partner
- OP is supposedly showing his partner the game but decides to throw her into Versus (asymmetrical PvP) instead of Campaign, so she couldn't learn the maps or what any of the specials do in a more relaxed environment.
- She gets kicked twice: Once for not being able to keep up, the second for missing a charge and then finally incapped by her own team.
- OP goes on Reddit and complains.

>It was OP's responsibility to make sure his partner could enjoy the game and he failed miserably. What I think is that if the story is true then he set her up for failure so he could complain about Versus. But the more likely answer is that all of this is fake so that OP could farm upvotes and awards so here's my argument:

>>OP has experience with the game because he himself has said "I spent so many nights in my teens playing it" so he should know that it would be better to ease her into the game first via a couple rounds of campaign with bots instead of jumping into Asymmetrical PvP.
>OP said his partner got kicked twice. This is not possible unless he is on the opposite team or for some reason he voted "Yes" (F1)/Abstained since the person that gets the votekick called on them automatically votes "No" (F2) without any input given.
>With the information that comes from the post itself and as someone that has a deeper understanding of the games mechanics based on personal experience I can say that the only two logical conclusions is that OP is either lying about the entire thing or is a fucking idiot.

>Edit: Also look at OP's profile, the dude plays Dead By Daylight, an Asymmetrical PvP game, what a surprise!

This test is run on Expert difficulty.
Each Survivor was hit ONCE (a single tick of damage).

Melee/Damage Values
---13 hits to incap a 100 HP survivor---
Shovel: 8

---15 hits to incap a 100 HP survivor---
Pitchfork: 7
Katana: 7
Guitar: 7
Golf Club: 7
Frying Pan: 7
Fireaxe: 7
Baseball Bat: 7

---20 hits to incap a 100 HP survivor---
Tonfa: 5
Machete: 5
Knife: 5
Cricket Bat: 5
Chainsaw: 5

This test is run on Expert difficulty.
Each Survivor was hit ONCE (a single tick of damage).

Melee/Damage Values
---13 hits to incap a 100 HP survivor---
Shovel: 8

---15 hits to incap a 100 HP survivor---
Pitchfork: 7
Katana: 7
Guitar: 7
Golf Club: 7
Frying Pan: 7
Fireaxe: 7
Baseball Bat: 7

---20 hits to incap a 100 HP survivor---
Tonfa: 5
Machete: 5
Knife: 5
Cricket Bat: 5
Chainsaw: 5

Imagine it is a game of Versus and is the beginning of the second chapter of No Mercy. The Survivors and Infected are of equal or at least similar skill level.

The Survivors primaries are three SMGs and one shotgun. Instead of leaving the saferoom the four humans sitting inside the saferoom are hesitant to leave despite having already opened the door.

The Infected are on the roof of the saferoom and they consist of a Boomer, Hunter, Spitter, and a Smoker. If these four infected were to make an attack plan which of the Specials should engage the survivors first?

Serious answers please. (Or a joke answer followed by a serious answer, that is also acceptable.)