How should international institutions handle sex-specific findings about boys and men, and is dedicated UN machinery warranted?

The UN Global Study on Children Deprived of Liberty (2019) found that 94% of detained children worldwide are boys, and its full version states that boys “often face discriminatory treatment” linked to stereotypes about male violence.

The summary report submitted to the General Assembly (A/74/136) retains the 94% figure but not the discrimination finding, and its recommendations chapter does not use the word “boys.” Separately, the Commission on the Status of Women’s agreed conclusions 2004/11 acknowledged that men and boys “sometimes face discriminatory barriers and practices”; no entity, indicator or funding marker with male outcomes as its object has been created since.

UN Women exists for women and girls with its own budget and reporting obligations.

Sectoral agencies (WHO, ILO, UNESCO) publish sex-disaggregated data on suicide, workplace deaths and education, where males are the majority of deaths or the lagging group.

There are two serious positions here.

1. this is rational prioritization, women’s documented global disadvantages (violence, exclusion from education and property, reproductive control) are more severe and systemic, resources are finite, and general frameworks plus sectoral agencies adequately cover male outcomes.

2. this is an institutional blind spot, outcomes that track a sex line normally get owned machinery (maternal mortality, for instance, is not discrimination but has indicators, targets and funding), and findings without an institutional owner demonstrably fall out of documents between drafts.

Questions:

**1.**	Which position better explains the record prioritization or blind spot? What evidence would distinguish them?  
**2.**	What explains a finding surviving as a statistic but losing its interpretation between versions of the same study?  
**3.**	If a member state tabled a resolution creating a men-and-boys observance day, focal point, or aid marker, what political dynamics would follow domestically and at the GA?  
**4.**	Are sectoral agencies sufficient for pattern-level outcomes, or does ownership require an entity, and does the answer differ for women and men?

https://documents.un.org/api/symbol/access?s=A/74/136&l=en&t=pdf

https://childrendeprivedofliberty.info/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/Full-Global-Study\_Revised-Version.pdf

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u/Rickmyrolls — 2 days ago

What’s the case against a UN body for men and boys alongside UN Women?

I have lately been reading about how the UN is set up.

UN Women came from resolution 64/289 in 2010, own board, own budget, own reporting. Nothing equivalent for men and boys as far as I can find.

Male suicide runs 3:1 or higher in most rich countries. Same pattern with workplace deaths and homelessness. If nobody’s mandated to report on it, does it just not get dealt with?

I get the argument that this is about power, not outcomes. But I’d like to hear it properly. What’s the strongest case against?

Feels like we just know less about what’s happening to boys and men, and that gap seems worth closing.

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u/Rickmyrolls — 5 days ago
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We prefer that men die in silence, alone.

Not criticising women, nor men, and not all men and women are bad, in fact most are good. But there are some very disturbing issues the governments are creating that’s shaping the future in the wrong direction….

Why do we not have UN for men, but we do for women?
Why did UN take a 14 year old international men’s day and turn it into national toilet day?

Please take a look at the video and page I made on the topic; https://youtu.be/mrF0uWVLCNk?is=mpe_ddlSdPBznMAr
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZN88jv273/

Edit 2

Since everyone kept asking for sources, I spent the last day building the whole argument into one page:

unformentoo.org

Every number on it is from the UN, WHO, OECD or Eurostat, and every claim links to its primary source. There's a register at the bottom listing all of them. If any number is wrong, tell me and I fix it. That's the whole point of counting.

If you're short on time: unformentoo.org/?story is the 90 second version.

And if you genuinely want to do something, it costs you 1-2 minutes: read it, tap "add your voice" (anonymous, no email, no signup, it literally just counts), and send it to one person. That's it.

Prove the title wrong.

u/Rickmyrolls — 7 days ago