Qualquer um pode dobrar, e eu posso provar!

Primeiro de tudo, eu preciso dizer que eu não estarei falando ou me referindo a TLOK. Meu desabafo aqui NÃO tem NADA a ver com a Korra.

A Lenda de Korra é uma sequência horrível na minha opinião, e isso na verdade me deixa triste porque poderia ter sido ótima e tinha um potencial ilimitado, mas não foi, e infelizmente arruinou tudo o que ATLA construiu:

  1. Os espíritos, antes misteriosos e não restritos pelas morais humanas, se tornaram seres estranhos, cartunescos e irritantes e aquelas duas pipas ridículas, e o mundo espiritual que antes era um plano de existência diferente no mesmo mundo, que só podia ser acessado por meio de uma profunda iluminação espiritual, tornou-se uma literalmente uma DIMENSÃO MATERIAL acessada não por iluminação espiritual, mas por PORTAIS.
  2. O mundo se tornou extremamente avançado em um curto período de tempo sem nenhuma razão, eu consigo aceitar dirigíveis, trens, carros e até o papel impresso, mas CÂMERAS e AVIÕES eu não consigo aceitar.
  3. O avatar, antes a encarnação do equilíbrio, um espírito literal encarnado, tornou-se uma FUSÃO entre uma pipa e um ladrão.

E o pior de tudo, a dobra.

Não apenas arruinaram como a dominação funciona, como também arruinaram como a dominação era APRENDIDA. Você ouviu direito, APRENDIDA, dobra não é um poderzinho que foi dado aos humanos pelas tartarugas-leão, é uma prática cultural antiga e única de cada parte do mundo. Por que apenas aquelas partes do mundo, você me pergunta, eu te digo, POR CAUSA DOS MESTRES ORIGINAIS.

Ao longo de ATLA, é dito que os humanos APRENDERAM a dobrar com os mestres originais, nos primórdios da humanidade, aqueles que tiveram contato com os mestres originais (por exemplo, Oma e Shu) e aprenderam com eles, de fato desenvolveram a capacidade de dobrar. A dobra é a capacidade de estender a influência do próprio chi para fora do corpo a fim de influenciar o ambiente, qualquer pessoa pode aprender a dominar um elemento, mas como cada elemento exige um caminho e fluxo único de chi no corpo, uma vez que você é um dobrador de um elemento, não pode dominar outro elemento, pois isso exigiria uma completa reorganização do caminho do chi de uma pessoa. E, como qualquer tipo de habilidade, como arte, desenho, dança, luta com espada etc., existem pessoas que têm mais aptidão para elas, elas são naturalmente boas nessas coisas, o mesmo acontece com a dobra, existem pessoas que já nascem sintonizadas com um elemento, pessoas com um caminho natural de chi correspondente a um elemento e, portanto, um dobrador nato.

Mas então por que muitos personagens não dobram? Por que nem todo mundo no universo de avatar dobra? Deixe-me perguntar, todo mundo no nosso universo é um espadachim? Um lutador? Um cantor, um dançarino, um ilustrador, um mestre de kung fu? Porque simplesmente muitas pessoas não querem, ou não acreditam que sejam capazes. Ou estão simplesmente espiritualmente desconectadas do elemento, como o Sokka. Sokka nunca quis dobrar, ele sempre demonstrou desconsideração e falta de interesse pelo lado espiritual das coisas, quase sempre se concentrava em táticas de combate, estratégia, o lado físico e material das coisas. E, como muitas pessoas, Sokka não tinha o "talento" para ser um dobrador, ele não tinha a aptidão natural ou conexão com a água, ou qualquer outro elemento, e não tinha os caminhos naturais de seu chi alinhados com nenhum elemento, e nunca quis alinhá-los com nenhum. E como é extremamente difícil se tornar um dobrador sem os caminhos naturais, as pessoas que não tinham essa aptidão não tentavam, e se tentavam eram desencorajadas.

E com o passar do tempo, devido à dificuldade de aprender a reorganizar os caminhos do próprio chi, as pessoas pararam de pensar que qualquer um pode dominar e começaram a acreditar que apenas aqueles com a conexão natural poderiam, e como isso exige muito treinamento e tempo para dominar, as pessoas que não têm essa conexão natural simplesmente não tentam ou simplesmente não querem ou não podem se dar ao luxo de gastar tempo em uma prática para a qual não têm talento natural, em vez de se dedicarem a um talento que já possuem, como artesanato, pintura, desenho, artes marciais etc.

Mas então por que o único tipo de dobrador que vemos é nativo de suas regiões? Por que não existe um dobrador de água na Nação do Fogo, ou um dobrador de terra na Tribo da Água? Porque não existe nenhum tipo de estímulo nessas regiões para desenvolver essas artes. Por que uma escola de dobra de terra estaria em uma tribo da água, quando não há terra por perto?

Não apenas isso, mas como o talento para dominar é algo que pode ser transmitido, como muitas outras coisas (como talento para lutar, cantar etc.), isso faria com que um tipo específico de dominação fosse mais predominante nessas regiões.

A dobra de fogo como exemplo: desde o começo, as pessoas que aprenderam a dobrar o fogo com os dragões e tinham o talento para fazê-lo facilmente passariam os genes e o conhecimento para as gerações futuras, mas outras pessoas que tivessem aptidão para outros tipos de dobra não desenvolveriam essas características, devido à ausência de mestres naturais nessas regiões e, por causa disso, seriam consideradas não dobradoras. Além disso, o ambiente também criaria uma pressão por mais dobradores de fogo do que de outros tipos, favorecendo os dobradores de fogo em relação a outros dobradores e, com o passar do tempo, essas outras características seriam silenciadas e enfraquecidas. O mesmo se aplica às outras dobras .

Outro fator é o acesso aos mestres originais e o tamanho de uma população. Nem todo mundo pode se dar ao luxo de gastar muito tempo aprendendo dobra de fogo sem qualquer tipo de aptidão enquanto precisa trabalhar para alimentar a família, enquanto aqueles que já demonstram sinais de dobra podem.

Eu acredito que a razão pela qual TODOS os nômades do ar eram dobradores era porque: todos eles tinham acesso aos bisões voadores, seu estilo de vida incentivava o desenvolvimento da dobra, eles eram focados no lado espiritual das coisas e tinham uma população realmente pequena. Esses fatores contribuíram para que todas as pessoas nascidas entre os nômades do ar pudessem desenvolver a dobra de ar, mesmo aquelas sem aptidão natural, porque todas tinham tempo, professores e acesso aos mestres originais.

O Avatar é o único dobrador capaz de dominar todos os elementos devido ao fato de que:

  1. Antes do retcon de Raava e Wan, o avatar era pra ter sido dito ser a encarnação do Espírito do próprio planeta, a personificação literal do equilíbrio e do equilíbrio. Um sistema imunológico do próprio mundo para manter o equilíbrio em tudo.
  2. Eu teorizo que o primeiro avatar (tirando o retcon de Wan) dobrava apenas um elemento, o segundo avatar dobrava dois, o terceiro dobrava três e, finalmente, o quarto avatar dobrava os quatro elementos. É daí que veio a ordem dos elementos. Agora, qual elemento veio primeiro, eu teorizo a terra, mas eu realmente não sei.
  3. A condensação de todos esses diferentes caminhos de chi dentro do corpo do avatar permite que ele dobre todos os quatro elementos sem precisar reescrever os caminhos, e o estado avatar é a ativação de todos esses caminhos ao mesmo tempo.

É por isso que acredito que até mesmo um não dobrador pode se tornar um dobrador (mesmo que com extrema dificuldade) se tiver oportunidade, tempo e dedicação. Diga-me o que você acha.

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u/ScienceButterfly8008 — 13 days ago

Anyone can bend!

First of all i do need to say that i woulld not be talking or refering to TLOK. My ranting here has NOTHING to do about korra.
The Legend of Korra is a horrible sequel in my opinion, and it actually makes me sad because it could have been great and it had limitless potential, but it wasn't, and it actually ruined everything ATLA has build:

  • The spirits once mysterious and unbounded by human morals, became those weird cartoonish and anoying beings and those two freaking kites, and the spiritual world once a different plane of existence on the same world, that can only be accessed through deeply spiritual enlightment became a LITTERAL MATERIAL DIMENSION accessed not by spiritual enlightment but by FREAKING PORTALS.
  • The world has became extremely advanced in a short period of time without any reason, i can excuse dirigibles, trains, cars and even the printed paper, but freaking CAMERAS and PLANES i cannot take.
  • The avatar, once the incarnation of balance, a literal spirit incarnated, became a FUSION between a kite and a thief.
  • And the worst of all, the bending.

Not only they ruined how bending works, they also ruined how bending was LEARNED. You heard me right LEARNED, bending is not some power gimmick give to humans, it is an ancient and cultural practice unique to each part of the world. Why only those parts of the world you ask me, i tell you, BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL MASTERS.

Throughout all of ATLA, is said that the humans LEARNED how to bend from the original masters, on the dawn of humanity, those who had contact with the original masters (for example Oma and Shu) and learned from them, actualy developed the ability to bend. Bending is the ability to extend the influence of ones chi to outside of ones body in order to influence the enviroment, anyone can learn how to bend an element, but since each element requires an unique pathway and flow of chi in ones body, once you are a bender of one element, you cannot bend other element, since it would require a complete rearrange of ones chi pathway. And, like any kind of habillity, such as art, drawing, dance, swordfight, etc, there are people who have more aptitude towards them, they are naturally good on those things, the same with bending, there are people who already born atunned to an element, people with a natural chi pathway corresponded to an element, and therefore a natural born bender.

But them why lots of characters do not bend? Why not everyone in avatar universe bend? Let me ask, every one in our universe is a swordsman? A fighter? An singer, a dancer, a ilustrator, a master in kung fu? Because simply many people do not want, or do not believe they are able to. Or they are simply disconected spiritually from the element, like sokka. Sokka never wanted to bend, he always showned a disregard and lack of interest in the spiritual side of things, he almost always focus in combat tactics, strategy, the physical and material side of things. And like many people, sokka did not had the "talent" to be a bender, he did not had the natural aptitude or connection to water, or any other element, and he did not have the natural pathways of his chi alligned with any element, and never wanted to allign it with any one. And since is extremely difficult to become a bender without the natural pathways, people who did not had this aptitude didn't try.

And as time goes by, due the difficulty that learning how to rearrange ones chi pathways, people stopped thinking anyone can bend and started believing that only the ones with the natural connection could, and since it requires a lot of training and time to bend, people who dont have this natural connection just don't try or just dont want or cannot afford themselves expending time in a practice that they dont have the natural talent, instead of aproaching a talent they already have, like carving, painting, drawing, martial arts, etc.

But then why the only kind of bender we see are native to their regions? Why there is not a water bender in fire nation, or a earth bender in water tribe? Because there isnt any kind of stimulli in those regions to develop those arts. Why would an earthbending school be in a water tribe, when there is no earth around?

Not only that but since the talent for bending is something that can be passed down, like many other things (such as fighting talent, singing, etc), it would make a specific kind of bending be more proeminent in those regions.

Take firebending for example: since the beggining, people who learned firebending from the dragons and had the talent to do so easily, would pass down the genes and the knowledge to the future generations, but other people who had the aptitude to other kinds of bending would not develop those traits, since the absence of natural masters in those regions, and because of that, would pass as non-benders. Not only that but the enviroment would also create a pressure for more firebenders than for other kinds, favoring firebenders over other benders, and as time goes on, those other traits would be silenced and weakened. The same aply to others bending.

Other factor is the access to the original masters and the size of a population. Not everyone can afford expending lots of time learning firebending without any kind of aptitude while they have to work to feed their family, while those who already show signs of bending can.

I believed the reason of why ALL of the air nomads were benders is because: all of them had access to the sky bisons, their lifestyle encouraged the development of bending, they are focused on the spiritual side of the things and have a really low population. Those factors contributed to all of the people born in the air nomads could develop airbending, even thos without the natural aptitude, because they all have time, teachers, and access to the original masters.

The Avatar is the only bender able to bend all the elements due to the fact that:

  1. Before the Raava and Wan retcon, the avatar was suposed to be the incarnation of the Spirit of the planet itself, the litteral embodiement of balance and equilibrium. An immune system of the world itself to mantain ballance on everything.
  2. I theorize that the first avatar (excluding the Wan retcon) only bent one element, the second avatar bent two, the third bent three, and finally, the fourth avatar bent all the four elements. That is where the order of the elements came from. Now wich element came first, i theorize earth, but i dont really know.
  3. The condensation of all those different chi pathways inside the avatar's body allow for them to bend all the for elements without having to rewrite the pathways, and the avatar state is the activation of all those pathways at the same time.

That is why i believe that even a non-bender can become a bender (even thou with extreme difficulty) if they have oppotunity, time and dedication. Tell me what you think.

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u/ScienceButterfly8008 — 13 days ago
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Anyone can bend, and this is a STATEMENT!

First of all i do not want to hear anyone telling me about TLOK. I am not talking about fanfics here. My ranting here has NOTHING to do about korra.
The Legend of Korra is a shitty sequel, it could have been great, but it wasn't, and it actually ruined everything ATLA has build: the spirits (those weird gibli cartoons and those two fucking kites), the world, the avatar, and the worst of all, the bending.

Not only they ruined how bending works, they also ruined how bending was LEARNED. You heard me right LEARNED, bending is not some power bullshit, is an ancient and cultural practice unique to each part of the world. Why only those parts of the world you ask me, i tell you, BECAUSE OF THE ORIGINAL MASTERS.

Throughout all of ATLA, is said that the humans LEARNED how to bend from the original masters, on the dawn of humanity, those who had contact with the original masters (for example Oma and Shu) and learned from them, actualy developed the ability to bend. Bending is the ability to extend the influence of ones chi to outside of ones body in order to influence the enviroment, anyone can learn how to bend an element, but since each element requires an unique pathway and flow of chi, in order to learn other element, one should abbandon the other. Like any kind of habillity, such as art, drawing, dance, swordfight, etc, there are people who have more aptitude towards them, they are naturally good on those things, the same with bending, there are people who already born atunned to an element.

But them why lots of characters do not bend? Why not everyone in avatar universe bend? Let me ask, every one in our universe is a swordsman? A fighter? An singer, a dancer, a ilustrator, a master in kung fu? Because simply many people do not want, or do not believe they are able to. Or they are simply disconected, like sokka. Sokka never wanted to bend, he almost always focus in combat tactics, strategy, and other things. And like many people, sokka did not had the "talent" to be a bender, he did not had the natural aptitude or connection to water, or any other element, and he did not have the natural pathways of his chi alligned with any element, and never wanted to allign it with any one. And as time goes by, people stopped thinking anyone can bend and started believing that only the one with the nattural connection could, and since it requires a lot of training and time to bend, people who dont have this natural connection just don't try or just dont want or cannot afford themselves expending time in a practice that they dont have the natural talent, instead of aproaching a talent they already have, like carving, painting, drawing, martial arts, etc.

But then why the only kind of bender we see are native to their regions? Why there is not a water bender in fire nation, or a earth bender in water tribe? Because there isnt any kind of stimulli in those regions to develop those arts. Why would an earthbending school be in a water tribe, when there is no earth around?

Not only that but since the talent for bending is something that can be passed down, like many other things (such as fighting talent, singing, etc), it would make a specific kind of bending be more proeminent in those regions.

Take firebending for example: since the beggining, people who learned firebending from the dragons and had the talent to do so easily, would pass down the genes and the knowledge to the future generations, but other people who had the aptitude to other kinds of bending would not develop those traits, since the absence of natural masters in those regions, and because of that, would pass as non-benders. Not only that but the enviroment would also create a pressure for more firebenders than for other kinds, favoring firebenders over other benders, and as time goes on, those other traits would be silenced and weakened. The same aply to others bending.

Other factor is the access to the original masters and the size of a population. Not everyone can afford expending lots of time learning firebending without any kind of aptitude while they have to work to feed their family, while those who already show signs of bending can.

I believed the reason of why ALL of the air nomads were benders is because: all of them had access to the sky bisons, their lifestyle encouraged the development of bending, they are focused on the spiritual side of the things and have a really low population. Those factors contributed to all of the people born in the air nomads could develop airbending, even thos without the natural aptitude, because they all have time, teachers, and access to the original masters.

That is why i believe that even a non-bender can become a bender if they have time. Tell me what you think, and PLEASE DO NOT BRING TLOK INTO THESE CONVERSATION.

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u/ScienceButterfly8008 — 13 days ago