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Whole of that sub is taken over by them. All they talk about is how Marathas only committed atrocities.

Jya lokanna Marathi bhashecha itka dvesh aahe tynchya sobat Manase bhet ghet aahe. Yavarti tumcha mat kay?

I don't mean to be a casteist person over here. But I'm lately seeing a lot of such posts where they are claiming Satavahanas and Vakatakas as Marathas. Even though they themselves designated as Brahamanas. Gautamiputra Satakarni called himself "Ek Bamhana". vindhyashakti called himself a 'Dvija'. Even the Seunas were belonging to the pastoral community who were added into the Maratha system. Why is this the case?

I'd like to clear a misconception that the Badami Chalukyas did NOT trationally use the Proto-Nagari scripts in their administartion. What they actually used was the Siddhamatrika Script. It was the script of the northern imperial elite; using it was a powerful statement of pan-Indian dominance. When the Chalukyas invited esteemed northern scholars, monks, or priests to their court—such as the Shaiva ascetic Jnanasivacharya who migrated all the way from the banks of the Ganges to Pattadakal—they recorded these holy events in Siddhamatrika so the trans-regional religious community could read them.

Source- https://www.scribd.com/document/696442058/siddhamatrika-Id-8622906477

However this script was only reserved for Sanskrut. The proto-Marathi was actually written in the Kanadi-Telugu script. There was a shift from Brahmi script in Maharashtra then.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianHistory/s/iZQyjxQdvr

The Satara copper plates issued by the Badami Chalukyas have Marathi written in Kanadi-Telugu script rather than Siddhamatrika.

However the change happened with the rise of Rashtrakutas they introduced the Nagari format into Deccan region.

The Samangadh copper plates of Dartidurga which talk about victory over the "Karnatakam balam-anantam-ajeyam" are the inscriptions bearing Proto-Nagari forms.

Source: Indian Palaeography by Georg Bühler- https://archive.org/details/in.gov.ignca.18230

Development of Nagari Script by A.K. Singh (1991): https://www.scribd.com/document/413359259/Development-of-Nagari-Script-Singh-A-K

The text includes specific comparative visual charts (labeled as Table A14 & N14 in the book) analyzing the letters from the Samangadh plates. It points out that the top stroke (the horizontal shirorekha) completely covers the entire breadth of each letter, representing a milestone leap toward modern Devanagari.

It seems over time Rashtrakutas favoured Sanskrut more in Maharashtra thereby using Nagari forms which likely started to get used in Marathi. It may also be the Indo-Aryan nature of Marathi which lead to the shift. By the time the Kalyani Chalukyas took over the Marathi had already adopted matured Nagari format.

Being a bordering state it is their job irrespective of whoever is being rescued. Aren't THEY also a part of India? Why do they remind us this same fact when we ask them to learn the local language? If the pilgrims were brought from WB, Uk or UP they would've not cried like this.

The state government took immediate charge of the crisis. It executed a massive, multi-agency operation to bring more than 100 pilgrims safely back to the state.

Chief Minister’s Office (CMO) immediately launched emergency disaster response protocols.

Ministry of External Affairs (MEA) and local Nepalese authorities to locate and arrange safe passage for the citizens. Officials from Maharashtra Sadan in New Delhi were deployed to manage the logistics on the ground.

The Nepal Army, Nepal Police, and local Nepalese rescue teams were the ones physically navigating the hazardous, flooded terrains to reach stranded people. Local leaders, such as Nepalese Member of Parliament Sandeep Rana, stepped in on the ground to coordinate infrastructure, organizing buses to safely transport the pilgrims out of the flood-impacted areas of Kathmandu down to the Indian border.

Once the Nepalese transport brought the pilgrims to the Bhittamore border, the Sitamarhi district administration and Bihar Government took over. Maharashtra officials then funded and arranged the special railway coaches from Patna to bring the pilgrims back home. The Maharashtra state administration, alongside Bihar officials, coordinated directly with the Railway Board in New Delhi.

If there was any other state like West Bengal or Uttarakhand then they would've done the SAME thing without making any fuss about it but NOOOO. Let's not ignore the fact that there is a difference between a tourist and a workers who has stayed in MH for many years.

Most surprising thing is that most Indian articles seem to to only focus on how BIHARIS have saved them when the fact is that they were they the part of the helping process.

Source- https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/nagpur/flooded-nepal-safe-return-marathi-connect-powers-pilgrims-safe-return/articleshow/133636666.cms

"तू जगत एकविरु माझा देव रोहकु बापू यादव नारायानु नरसिंगु"

>"You are the sole hero of the universe, my God, my protector, and my father! You are the Narayana (Supreme Lord Lord Vishnu) to the Yadavas, O King Narasimha!"

Most intriguing part of MH's history is that both the oldest inscriptions in Maharashtri and Marathi are found in Karnataka itself rather than Maharashtra. Just like those this inscription is valuable for our history as well.

This inscription was issued by the Kanadi-speaking Hoysalas.

Context- After the Western Chalukya Empire collapsed, both the Hoysalas (from the south) and the Seuna-Yadavas (from the north) rushed to claim the fertile Krishna-Tungabhadra river valley. The Hoysala Emperor Veera Ballala II met the Seuna King Bhillama V at Soratur. Ballala II won a crushing victory, chasing the retreating Seuna forces all the way up north to the Krishna River.

The specific inscription mentioned is a commemorative hero stone (Veeragallu) commissioned shortly after under the reign of Ballala II's son and successor, King Narasimha II (who ruled in the early 1200s). The Seunas, under their powerful king Simhana II, repeatedly tried to push south to reclaim lost land. In response, King Narasimha II led an aggressive counter-expedition against the northern forces.

During this campaign, the Hoysala army intercepted the Seuna division led by the two important Marathi generals, Pavus and Vijayapala. The Hoysalas completely wiped out their unit, decapitated the generals, and recorded this.

The inscription is located in Davanagere Taluk historians broadly isolate this specific celebratory inscription to be around between 1250's to 1270's. The inscription directly praises a Hoysala king named Narsingu (Vira Narasimha).

What makes this specific Davanagere Taluk inscription highly unique to linguists and historians is its deliberate code-switching. While the structural, narrative framing of the inscription is written in Kannada, the actual direct quotes of Pavus and Vijayapala switch into early Marathi.

While the stone carving visually shows the bloody, lopped-off heads of Pavus and Vijayapala lying on the battlefield, the carved text acts like a literal speech bubble for those dead heads, forcing them to eternally praise the Hoysala King Narasimha II for anyone passing by to read.

Source- Epigraphia Carnatica, specifically in Volume XI covering the Chitaldroog District. This collection was painstakingly compiled by B. Lewis Rice for the Mysore Archaeological Series.

https://archive.org/details/epigraphiacarnat11myso/page/n7/mode/2up

https://www.scribd.com/document/948088776/Epigraphia-Carnatica-Chitradurga

Courtesy- r/Imperial_Karnataka

For context- I had made post how the Hoysalas referred to Seunas as 'Aryans'. never in my main post had I said that they were marathi speakers. But still somehow they decided to make it about themselves https://www.reddit.com/r/Imperial_Karnataka/comments/1w1en3z/comment/p6k9ean/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button

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Look at this comment from TeenIndia sub. He believes that Maharashtra is an "invasive state" and is rewriting the identity of Mumbai. Marathis have forgotten how these ppl never liked the fact that Mumbai was added into Maharashtra in 1960's.

The king who issued those inscriptions is Veera Ballala II (also spelled Vira Ballala II or Vira-Vallala-Devarasar in the Tamil records).

"...Devar Vira-Vallala-Devarasar vadakku Ariyar mel eduttu vittu Nakkigundi-kkottaiyura alittu venru padai i Dorasamuttirattilii elundaruli..."

>"King Veera Ballala, having launched an expedition against the Northern Aryans (the Seunas), destroyed the fort of Nakkigundi, won the battle, and returned victoriously with his army to Dorasamudra..."

Ik that this inscription is in Tamil as they expanded deep into Tamil Nadu. In fact, they grew so fond of the region that they established a secondary capital at Srirangam. As a result, many official Hoysala royal orders, military chronicles, and land grants targeting southern provinces were written in the local administrative language: Tamil.

The Hoysalas and the Seunas both claimed descent from the legendary Yadu lineage. However, they fought a bitter, century-long war for control over the fertile Krishna-Tungabhadra doab.

The exact date of this inscription is September 10, 1304 CE, and it was issued to record a religious charity donation of land while celebrating the glorious history of the Hoysala royal lineage.

In the inscription text, the date is given using the traditional Indian calendar systems: Kaliyuga Year 3649, Saka Year 1225, in the cyclic year Krodhi, on the 10th day of the Tamil month of Purattasi under the Mula Nakshatra. This specific stone edict (shilashasana) was discovered in the Bangalore district (historically part of the Dodda Nekkundi area).

Before documenting the gift, the writers had to praise the sovereign power of the Hoysala Crown. They chose to recount the grandest historical milestone of their lineage—Veera Ballala II's legendary campaign where he "marched against the Vadakku Ariyar (Seunas), completely smashed the fort of Nakkigundi, won the war, and returned victoriously to Dorasamudra"

It then states that because of those historic victories, the current Hoysala crown safely rules the earth, "punishing the wicked and protecting the good" (dushta-nigraham sishta-pratipalanam).

Source- Volume IX of Epigraphia Carnatica, a comprehensive collection of inscriptions compiled by the archaeologist B.Lewis.Rice. https://archive.org/details/epigraphiacarnat09myso/page/n7/mode/2up

1. Shivaji's kuladevi is from Maharashtra-Karnataka border.

2. Bhonsle is very similar to Hoysala.

3. Baliappa(cousin of Hoysala king) being the founder of Bhonsle clan.

http://maratha-history.blogspot.com/2010/09/shivajis-hoysala-origin.html?m=1

What do you think?

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