DS9 & The Aeneid - Is Sisko Aeneas?

So I'm currently rewatching S7 of DS9 while also reading Virgil's Aeneid, and I'm struck by huge parallels between Sisko and Aeneas.

For anyone unfamiliar with the Aeneid, it's the Roman epic that tells the story of Aeneas, who leads a fleet of refugees from the sacked city of Troy to Italy, where he's been told by the gods that he's destined to start a new civilization that will eventually become Rome. In modern terms, it's a prequel to the Roman origin story of Romulus & Remus, and a kind of retcon of Homer.

Parallels:

- Both Aeneas and Sisko are sons of a human father and a goddess/ prophet mother (Venus in Aeneas's case).

- Both are widowers who lost their wife during the traumatic event that opens their story (the fall of Troy; Wolf 359).

- Both have strong relationships to their father (Anchises, Joseph) and only son (Ascanius, Jake).

- Both mother figures (Venus and Prophet-Sarah) are cold, ambiguous figures. There's not much evidence of maternal affection as humans would see it.

- Both are inspirational leaders to those serving under them, and both take their duties very seriously to their people and family.

- Both are forced by the gods / prophets to choose between love and destiny. Aeneas and Sisko are specifically told that they cannot be with their love (Dido and Kassidy), as their special destiny comes first.

And now the big difference - when Aeneas is told by the gods to leave Dido and sail to Italy, he obeys. He follows his destiny above his heart.

Sisko is given the same ultimatum and refuses to make that choice. He will not give up his autonomy or his love.

In some ways, thinking along these lines has helped me enjoy DS9 in a different way. There are many elements of the prophets / Pah wraiths storyline that doesn't really work as SF, but if you see it as a kind of Graeco-Roman epic, it makes more sense.

I have no idea if any of this was intended by the DS9 writers, or if it's just coincidence, but anyway I hope people might find it interesting!

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u/SignificantPlum4883 — 1 day ago

World Cup Busters

Alright! 4 countries who are playing in the WC. Here we go...

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The music's just arrived. T

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The female pig is a bit ill, get the vet round. C

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What the Scouse bloke says if you ask him his opinion about Manchester. H

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What the Geordie mum calls her daughter Rebecca's husband Stanley. U

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u/SignificantPlum4883 — 1 month ago
▲ 142 r/engrish

Making a mess of a Smiths lyric...

Found in a Chinese clothes shop in Madrid!

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Obviously this is meant to be a line from the Smiths song There is a Light that Never Goes Out: "To die by your side is such a heavenly way to die".

u/SignificantPlum4883 — 1 month ago
▲ 3 r/latin

YouTube channels with videos in Latin with Latin subtitles?

Ideally intermediate or above. I'm specifically interested in the Latin subtitles, as I've found this really helps my learning. The ones I'm aware of...

- Scorpio Marcianus

- Latinitas Anime Causa

- Latinitium

Can anyone recommend any others?

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u/SignificantPlum4883 — 2 months ago

Just watched the 765874 short films - INCREDIBLE! But how do you interpret what we saw in these?

Just seen these for the first time. First of all, I was blown away by how amazing this all looks - it's stunning and I love the weirdness of it, like Trek made by David Lynch or something. Amazing goodbye to Kirk and Spock.

I wonder how people interpret what happened.

Is Kirk in the afterlife, in the Nexus, or what? What do you think is the relevance of seeing Gary Mitchell and Yeoman Colt?

Also if you haven't seen it:

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsNOqjr2meCbx6zlXTT3yw5z8-Ln1A8s-&si=W3CmU5VLRPh74Fwz

u/SignificantPlum4883 — 3 months ago
▲ 568 r/RedDwarf+2 crossposts

Smelly Alan Fartridge

I want to clear this up once and for all; this has been hanging in the air for about thirty years.

u/Past-Paramedic8687 — 2 months ago
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It has to feel at least a bit like what it means.

I'll start: Yemleck. A loud, disgusted 'yelp' or shout after you've found something nasty on the bottom of your shoe.

Edit: I love all of these very much (:

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u/SignificantPlum4883 — 3 months ago

Is it just me, or is there anyone else who's NEVER heard this before?

It's the one where a mysterious barrel of drink appears in a village! Absolute twaddle obviously, but I didn't know it was there!

(Last 5 mins or so of the video).

u/SignificantPlum4883 — 3 months ago