“Science” in UFO science research - why not engage with actual scientist?
It’s good to have a space like this subreddit dedicated to science on this topic. But having followed this subreddit on and off for a while, I’m surprised by the parochialism
of nearly all discussions, which undercuts the quality of debate. Two observations:
- First of all, there is practically no serious engagement with the substantial rigorous scientific literature on “experiencers”, beyond the tired references to the work to John E Mack. It’s notable that when advocates appeal to scientific authority or studies, they pretty much stick to Mack, rather defensively. Why is there a paucity of real engagement with all of the important work done critiquing him and the experiencer phenomenon, or the alternative explanations grounded in actual research?
- Second, The focus of many UFO/UAP discussions is either a) on earth-based events (is that a plane or an orb, etc) , which is such a narrow and frankly banal horizon of interest, or b) highly conjectural and fanciful claims about the nature of dimensions, space, time, time travel, etc.
But There is such a fantastic amount of scientific research being done currently that is ignored by this subreddit. For instance, the Vera C Rubin observatory is assembling an amazing catalogue of deep space artifacts to better understand dark matter and energy, with perhaps remarkable consequences for our understanding of the fabric of the universe. Efforts like this, grounded in actual science, get short shrift here. - This is all perplexing. My sense is that the reason there is so little engagement with actual Science on a purported science subreddit is because most people on here are not qualified - do not have the training and understanding - to actually understand much of the research being conducted today, which makes it harder to comprehend what’s relevant and what isn’t. This is probably exacerbated by the general tendency to reject research that is mainstream, often on the broad strokes of conspiracy thinking (don’t trust Mainstream scientists etc) and a misunderstanding of how research communities actually work (I’m a social scientist with a PhD and can tell you that these communities are far from monolithic).
Thoughts about 1&2 above? I ask these questions in a spirit of real inquiry, and I apologize if anyone is offended.