I'm in the mood to make ocs and I want to make killers who would have a connection and a lms with these two so please give me ideas!

Come up with the names yourself cause I'm tired

The headless horsemen

I don't have much of lore idea but here's what i have two basic lore idea

1: During dusekkar's time in search of a way to bring shedlesky back he met the headless horsemen who let him stay in his mansion to look his study for anything helpful. When dusekkar read up on the spawn cult, out of desperation he stole it, which ended up with the headless horsemen swearing revenge

Or THHM (the headless horsemen) always envied dusekkar and told him about the spawn cult knowing it was a fluke so he can take his place, which caught the attention of Phosphorus and him becoming one of his underlings, the sin he represents is envy

Names-

Cinnamon Gecko cookie: daughter of gingerbrave and Carameleon Cookie

Blueberry Sorbet cookie: daughter of Wizard cookie, slightly gingerbright, and Strawberry cookie

Strawberry Frosting cookie: Daughter of Custard Cookie III and Strawberry Crepe cookie

Velvet Thread Cookie: Son of red velvet cookie and licorice cookie

Personalities:

Cinnamon Gecko cookie: inheriting her dad's (gingerbraves) heroic nature and her papa's (Carameleon cookies) mischievous nature, she's very much a stereotypical cocky hero character, with some humbleness inside. Despite the fact her parents are kings of the fairy kingdom (I headcanon that Carameleon cookie is the new fairy king) she has no desire to to rule it, she Honestly rather go on adventures with her friends then do any of that.

Though she does have a brother (don't have a design yet) named frilled ginger cookie, who is pretty much the opposite of he inherited his papa's (again Carameleon cookie is papa) cowardice, being more of a reader and writer then a fighter. They are both based on types of lizards, Cinnamon Gecko cookie is obvious a Gecko, and Frilled ginger cookie is based on a frilled lizard, and they both have weapons. Believe it or not, CGC (Cinnamon Gecko cookie) has a candy cane rifle, whole frilled ginger cookie uses traditional fairy cookie weapons

Blueberry Sorbet cookie:

She is the oldest of her parents children, having two siblings. She inherited her father's fascination of magic, but they have their own fascination with it, specifically the possibility of enchanting weapons. She used her dad's old staff head as a mace, always enchanting it to be able to cast spells.

She is also dating Cinnamon Gecko cookie

Velvet thread Cookie:

Son of red velvet cookie and licorice cookie, and twin of licorice lace cookie cookie (will design her one day). Following her father's footsteps in a way, he's a cake hound trainer, the whip not actually to hurt them, but to actually guide cake hounds with the flame at the end. And is actually on Cinnamon Gecko cookie and Blueberry Sorbet cookies team

His sister on the other hand followed her parents old ways of villainy, and is in the new cookies of darkness, run by forsaken petal cookie (reborn dark enchantress cookie who is now her own cookie). She's uses a cake monster gauntlets, being more of a mele fighter. She's also twizzly gummy cookies mom/grandmother.

Velvet thread Cookie is dating paprika cookie, son of rye cookie and chilli pepper cookie.

Strawberry Frosting cookie:

Daughter of Custard Cookie III and Strawberry Crepe cookie, artificial child as well. She's very much Custard Cookie III's daughter, being just what he was when he was her age (yes she is the same age as he was during the game). But she also is Strawberry Crepe Cookie's daughter, so she gets bored easily and also is very smart, but unlike SCC, she actually is naturally smart!

She dosent go on adventures with Cinnamon Gecko cookie and her group, but when she dose its probably because shes bored!​

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Feel free to ask any questions about my ocs!

1: Licorice cookie and red velvet cookie become pure vanilla cookies right hand

Basically what this means for their roles is basically their his royal advisors, body gaurds, ext. But they also have roles to the vanilla kingdom!

Red Velvet Cookie's role outside of just being an royal advisor is being the owner of a cake hound adoption center, helping them find care in the arms of cookies that are willing to.

And licorice cookie role is the Vanilla Kingdoms own necromancer. What this means is basically he helps cookie say final goodbyes to loved ones if they never got the chance to do so.

They also become the parental figures to the dugh trio.

2: pomegranate Cookie and agar agar cookie

Pomegranate Cookie becomes the new master of the ivory pagoda, being trained by peach blossom cookie and becoming the new mother figure of cloud haetae cookie.

Agar agar cookie is in a similar role of beach blossom cookie, helping cookies take a break from there journey to the top.

3: Butter Roll cookie and Matcha cookie

Butter Roll cookie and Matcha cookie join SCOOP. Butter Roll becomes povidone iodine cookies right hand in the R&D division, while Matcha cookie joines both cleanup and the R&D division

4: Poison mushroom cookie

Poison mushroom cookie gets adopted by hollyberry cookie. Since hollyberry cookie is immune to poisonous stuff (headcanon), similar to the dough trio, she can eat his shroomies without getting loopy

Give me any more ideas for the cookies of darkness new roles in life

Each group has their own human

Edit:

The theory I'm talking about btw

I'm adding more to the theory of the prophecy happening multiple times.

The theory in the short states that dess was possibly in a similar role of susie, the dark world being an escape from reality

Seam a mirror for ralsei, both knowing more about their world then the average darkner even knows

And How Asriel mirrors Noelle.

And as much as I find it funny to think Kris was in the role of the human TWICE, it wouldn't make sense if the prophecy has happened multiple times! So it would make more sense if each time the prophecy tried to repeat, there would be a diffrent human. Especially since we dont knoe how many times the prophecy has tried to hsppen, if it even had multiple attempts, i just find if more reasonable then kris being the human twice

Especially since the story is sort of a mirrors of there story with determination, and renember, there were MULTIPLE human souls, not just frisk falling into the underground over and over with a different soul each time, so it would make sense if a different human was involved with the prophecy each time it started up again

u/SquashJohn thank you

Lore:

before being forsakened, she use to sneak out of school or home to be with her brother at work, but that ended up being her undoing when she was trapped in the burning building caused by coolkid, and Elliot couldn't get her out, both thinking eachother had died.

But miraculously she survived, thanks to the spector, being gravely wounded and burnt, the fear and pain making hwe forget where home was, being lost in the forest. One day while starving, Phosphorus approached her, giving her gifts and stuff from the spectre, as she was grieving her brother who she thought had died.

She then began to treat Phos and Spectre as friend, and one day Phos told her one day that Elliot hadn't died, and was In a realm safe and sound, and asked her for a favour. He takes her somewhere and the spectre is able to corrupt her, because she trusts him fully now, leading to her becoming a killer in Forsaken.

as a killer, the spector used its power to make her see the killers besides coolkid and Phos as family members, and the surviors as people giving them hard time, but it only is on when th people are alive (i think you can see where im going with this). Phos gave her a portion of his power, something similar to the coolgui, or something to make her stronger

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I have some voice lines in mind, specifically for killing survivors mostly:

Lines when killing anyone but Elliot and 7n7:

1. LEAVE MY BROTHER ALONE
2. I WON'T LET YOU HURT THEM!
3. THIS IS HOW WE STAY A FAMILY

When killing 7n7:

1. Father of the year here *sarcasm*
2. You and your BRAT did this to me! TO US
3. Go to hell!
4. Guess being a hacker runs in the family

When killing Elliot:

1. THIS IS FOR-... E-Elliot?...

2. TAKE-... this... B-Brother?

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Her deaign is inspired by many two main things

coolkids scrapped S1nwalker skin that obviously is inspired by mia and Elliot, as well as cyn from murder drones ​

And what people use for Swap/killer Elliot designs, with half his face being burnt and all. And thr fire on her design, specially her bow being on fire, and her fair being burnt near the bottom​

I imagine instead of what the S1nwalker skins old messages say, they would say things like

'Do it for him' with a picture of Elliots head as a reminder of why she's doing this

'How we stay a family' instead of 'I'll Murder You' which is actually a reference to Rick and Morty, Beth saying 'this is how we stay a family' in season 7 episode 2. And instead of the absolute solver symbol it would eb Phosphorus's symbol, ehich is what's causing her to see everything differently.

I would draw color but I don't want the pencil to smudge. So feel free to add color yourself

I've noticed forsaken survivors dont have killer counterparts like 7n7 has coolkid, shedlesky has 1x, and builder man has doom bringer, so hli have an idea, give me your killer counterpart ideas, and I'll possibly make designs for them.

Give me lore and design ideas and I'll get an idea for them

Info in this link for both parts

For context, I mentioned what if scenarios where the killers had different connections to different survivors. Like what if instead of noob being sixers friend, what if it was Elliot. So here some ideas for designs and lore. Images I used made by u/Man-Of-Melon

What if Elliot was sixers friend instead:

From the words of u/No_Safe_4933 'For Elliot and Sixer we could have Sixer being homeless and in turn Elliot fed him any Pizza that had to be returned and they formed a friendship after a bit. Later however during the c00lkidd incident, Elliot invited Sixer to stay for little bit until, where they hung out and did things. However, Sixer wanted to help Elliot in his job and it went well for a couple months. However, Sixer started to develop a competitive urge to be better than Elliot at his job, leading to him using Hacks and going down the same path as the canon before being fired from the job, something that actually brought him joy. And he becomes what we know.' So I can't really improve on that, but I do have ideas for the design!

Maybe he can have more aspects to the pizza place, or a more fun idea take elements from swap Elliot designs, like maybe instead of the claws he has in canon, maybe he could have pizza cutter hands? And maybe he can have some fire on him as a refrence the fires that coolkid created on the pizza place?

what if Veeronica raised c00lkidd:

u/Man-Of-Melon was right, c00lkid would definitely wpuld just be his coolel3r skin, but the lore can definitely be interesting.

Veeronica could find c00lkid during her milestone 1 or 2 skin, when thoes she was made to assist were gone and started to search for thoes who needed it. She could take care of c00lkid since she's made to assist others. I think she would still be roped into the group, but I think she would leave once they try to rope coolkid in with them, and this would be where she realized the group is bad. She would raise coolkid to the best of her abilities, but c00lkid would still be interested in the old graffiti group, and thus would sneak out to hang with them, making him suspect able to the spectors influence. And this could make this version of veeronica's story tragic since she tried so hard to make sure her son wasn't manipulated by bad people, yet she didn't realize coolkid was being manipulated by someone way worst.

what if 1x1x1x1 was made of Chance’s greed:

Again, u/Man-Of-Melon as well as u/Sufficient-Car-4628 executed the design perfectly, so I'm not going to improve apon it. But the lore could be interesting.

Chance could've won the necrobloxicon during a gambling session, and would grow more greedy from it until it created a manifestation of said greed.

what if c00lkidd was raised by the spawn cult:

I really like what u/Man-Of-Melon Did but I do have my own ideas! Keep the duel swords that form the spawn, but make him more of a purple hue, kinda like the thumbnail art we had of coolkid before the azure update. And also add some nightshade elements from two times night shade skin since this is technically a swap between azure and coolkid. His minions can be the golem azure has as.

I'll talk about more soon, bit overall these are amazing!

My forsaken ocs name is seraphina, and she's inspired by the roblox game be a guardian angel, where you protect a robloxian from death.

Her abilities are these:

The only passive that I came up with so far: she has a meter similar to two-time's that fills up every time she uses her abilities, which is connected to her fourth ability

1. able to telaport a random survivor to her with a cool down of 50 seconds.

2. can trap the killer in a bubble for 8 seconds which they have to button mash to escape, simialr to nosferatu's ability.

3. she can use her angelic sword to stun the killer

4. If her bar fills up to 100% from using her abilities, she can heal one survivor ot full health and full stamina.

So she's basically a sentientinal and support.

She does have a halo, but to separate her from the spawn cult, it's actually the moon spawn symbol. The lore behind the choice is basically the sun spawn symbol represents a new day, aka a second life, while thr moon spawn represents a peaceful night, aka rhe afterlife

I imagine her to have wings that are connected to her hair kinda like u/llesblan oc. I also think she'd have thoes rings shedlesky has in his guardian angel skin or her hair would cover her eyes. I feel her sword would be kinda like a biblically accurate angel or something from an old roblox game.

The only thing I've come up with for her is that she failed to save her robloxian from harming themself and something happens that gives the spector attention on her. And I want to give her a killer that is that person she failed tl save, but I don't know how i can implement that into a killer so please leave me suggestions

As a reminder here's the last post I made

I mentioned last time how I wanted costumes that explored scenarios of what if killers were connected to different survivors, or alternate universe versions of them with that scenario.

I gave some examples of last time like what if coolkid was found by the spawn cult and was raised by two-time instead or what if 1x was created by chances greed.

Well I have some more alternate killer and survivor connection ideas.

like, what if Elliot or a alternate universe counterpart was friends with sixer​

What if taph idolized noli or 1x

What if veeronica was found by the spawn cult or thr adminis, making friends with azure or doom bringer

And what if Itrapped faked a friendship with 7n7 for his hacking abilities instead?

like something I noticed last time was i didnt explain myself vwry well of what i ment for these scenarios. I posted my ideas last time to give you all ideas on what if the killers had backstory with with different survivors and vice versa.

so come up with scenarios like this for yourself ​

So in forsaken, alot of skins that are alternate versions of survivors and killers are 007n7 and c00lkid, and how it seems in every universe they are parent in child.

And we know the connections between killers, like 1x1 is a manifestation of shedleskys hatred, sixer is noobs old friend, Jhon doe and Jane doe's husband.

But I want skins that flip both formulas. Like what if there were skins that showed us what if the connections between survivors and killers were swapped. Or what if alternate versions of survivors were connected to alternate versionsbof killers their primes selves aren't

Like what if c00lkid or an alternate version of him was left in the spawn cult and raised by two-time or an alternate version two-time.

What if noli or an alternate version of him was connected to two-time or an alternate version of them.

What if veeronica or an alternate version of her was connected to c00lkid or an alternate version of him instead.

Like this thought experiment is super fun to think about, I'm not even kidding, give it a try yourself and I guarantee you'll enjoy the possibilities

Theory one, he is shadow milk cookies 'primordial era', his very first self long before he started to fall tk corruption

Or theory two: he's a split part of Shadow Milk Cookie's soul, the piece of Shadow Milk that was fine and didn't need a "friend" from loneliness as he would appreciate what he has like Black Sapphire and Candy Apple, the part that never fell to corruption. While Shadow Milk Cookiw is the piece which did

Meet Stellar Remnant Cookie! A physical manifestations of aureate star cookie, created by @/Aquaamaarine on Twitter, identity and state of self.

It's lore:

When guiding star cookie, primordial era aureate star cookie, discovered herself and became a star on earthbread, that realization created an embodiment of her sense of self, her identity and curent state. Their name was Starlight cookie, they were loved and cherished by Guiding Star cookie, who they embodied, The Divina Star grew to cherish them more then anyone else.

But as guiding star cookie slowly started to fall from grace, Starlight Cookie tried anything to keep her from doing anything that would destroy who she was, yet Guiding Star Cookie for once, ignored them, ignored they're sense of self, who they were. She was wanting attention, CRAVING it even, and started to see Starlight Cookie as something pulling her back from what she could be.

Cookie, hid her bruised dough with gold, her real self was almost 100% gone, leaving a remnant of who she was once. And thus, Stellar Remnant Cookie was born.

Now as nothing but a dead star of who they embodied, they still try to make The Prima Star realize this isn't her, no matter how many times she ignores them, hating to see what was essentially the real them harm herself just to be seen as brighter.

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Now for the information

Starlight cookie information:

Title: The Star of Identity by others, myself by Guiding Star cookie.

Pronouns: they/it

Age: Immortal adult/child

Gender: none

Sexuality: whatever guiding star cookies is since they are one in the same in a way

Personality: Bubbly, Cheerful, Guiding, Caring, Gentle, Curious, Silly, Clumsy

Skills: singing and dancing

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Stellar Remnant Cookie information:

Title: The dying identity

Pronouns: they/it

Gender: none

Sexuality: still whatever aureate star cookies is

Personality: Anxious, Closeted but wants to be social, Caring, Gentle, Guiding

Skills: performative arts as well as drawing

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so in my among runes au, the among us show characters are in the roles of the deltarune ones. But I actually wanted to do something special for the flowers in deltarune chapter 5. Then I renembered the upcoming game among us story: on guard!

So my idea is that the characters from the game would take the place of the flowers from deltarune. But I'm struggling to pick which of the characters will become the flowers, so please leave me suggestions on which character should be which

Btw for context, this is the au

Her name is crystallized dye cookie, the beast cookie of dread/fear, originally the voice of hope, and the first cookie who become a dragon.

Her lore is this:

Her original role was to keep cookies spirits high when things seemed tough, and to motivate others. And that wad needed most when the first conflict between dragons and cookies started. She realized cookies needed a positive role model of dragons, so traded her own humanity (or whatever the cookie version of the word is) to become a dragon herself, managing to stop the fight between dragons and cookies, even if only temporarily

Years later, she met coral fruit dragon cookie, a hybrid of fruit dragon and coral dragon, and the two fell in love. And that love created an egg. When The voice of hope told her lover about this, he got anxious, and said he had to go on a trip to the jellyfish oceans for the other coral dragons there needed supplies and protection, and he never returned.

This shook The voh's (voice of hope) sense of hope and motivate, though she tried to stay strong. Over the months she took care of her egg, eith the help of her fellow virtues. But one day she found a family of criminal cookies starving and needing food.

And with the hope of motivating them to be better cookies, brought them into her subterranean city. But after two months of having the family there with signs of progress of them turning over a new leaf, hwr egg was missing, and she quickly realized what had happened, the cookies tricked her into thinking they were changing so they can steal their egg. So out of panicked, she started to search for them

She managed to track down the cookies in a village, but found out it was to late, they had already sold her egg which was probably long gone. This caused her to snap, and she went on a rampage, crumbling almost the whole village but didn't go after the young, the cookies who survived watched her color drip off and her dye harden into crystal (her colors before corruption were rainbow like the sugar of happiness and her hair was made of liquid dye instead of frosting). Seeing the fear in the cookies eyecings caused her a great rush of adrenaline, even if it hurt to see the young ones scared.

Now as the scales of Fear/the consumer of fear, she goes around breaking cookies both physically and mentally, all to gain the new power source of her technology, fear/dread.

What I want for her design is a sort of technological/cyberpunk/sci-fi/digital viking since out of all the beast, she's the most digitally and technologically advanced. I also imagine her having aspects of all four types of dragons since she technically is like a mother of the dragons.

And similarly to silent salt, she would wear a helmet, but only hides her eyes since she has a scar that fucked up one of her eyes. Her weapon would be a spear, but instead of a spear head, it would be a computer cursor that she can control and disconnect from said spear.

Her colors would be mostly green but depending on her emotions they change, the reason of that being her originally be rainbow represents her hope and thus all of her colors are shown, but now that she lost all hope in cookie kind she can no longer show all of them, just one. Btw her flavor is dye, as in food dye/food coloring, just a heads up

I would design it myself, but I suck at drawing crk stuff and I feel incapable of creating my own vision

The au

Dark world green

As I've mentioned in the post before about this au, green is in kris role. He still retains his personality, I just picked this for a specific reason. Another thing I've mentioned in the post is that the ore+ in the au counts as the soul equivalent, and since green was infected with the paradise, I've given it to him

I gave him a cowboy look because he's from a worm farm, and made his weapon the mop he cleans the crimes scene, but in thr dark world its a spear because mops to be have a spear shape. He also had the Mira sun logo on his hat

I'm struggling ti draw this digitally so feel free to get creative with the colors. Also feel free to imagine what the other characters would look like