EyesCool and Lil Thug E are the ones that come to mind (in their music videos I see people comment RIP). I think I have come across a few but I can't remember their names. These artists were pretty young so it is definitely not from old age.
I think Mongolia is an interesting counterexample to the common idea that traditional masculinity and feminism (or at least gender equality) are necessarily opposed. It is the most feminist country in east asia.
Historically, Mongolian women often had relatively active roles compared with many neighbouring societies. Nomadic life required both men and women to contribute to the household economy, and women could manage livestock, finances and the home while men were away. Widows could remarry, and historical sources describe influential women in politics and leadership.
Modern Mongolia also differs from many East Asian countries in several ways. Female labour-force participation is high, women make up a large share of university graduates, and expectations around dating, appearance and gender roles seem less rigid than in some neighbouring countries. At the same time, many Mongolians still express pride in traditional culture, nationalism and relatively conventional ideas about masculinity.
My argument is simply that Mongolia appears to combine a relatively traditional culture with comparatively high levels of women's social participation, suggesting that masculinity and gender equality are not always incompatible. This can also be a good example for other east asian countries (like south korea which has somewhat of a gender war). But I am also skepticla of modern feminism, the mongolia approach is healthier (both mongolian men and women are nationalists and proud of their country, unlike a lot of western femisnist)
Do you think Mongolia is a genuine counterexample to the idea that traditional masculinity and gender equality cannot coexist? If not, what am I overlooking?
For Mongolian masculinity, you don't need me to explain much. Physical asia and chinggis khan will give you enough clues. And it is much more healthy than the red pill, manosphere capitalistic, individualistic stuff we have in the west.
Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan have elements of this but it is a bit muted due to islam (it is not strict but still has an influence)
I have noticed that some Kazakhs get offended when people ask if they live in yurts. I get it. 99.9% of Kazakhs don't live in yurts. But I don't know why some Kazakhs seem offended by that (especially since that is part of your heritage). Do these Kazakhs want to seem modern. Or is it the same way that A Chinese person might get annoyed by an American asking if they live in a temple/dojo.
Mongolians never seem to be offended when foreigners ask this. Maybe it is because most Mongolians live in Gers and 30% are actual nomads. Mongolians are actually very proud of their nomadic hertiage
I don't knowhow Kyrgyz react but I have heard of a small number of Kyrgyz living in Yurts and watched a documentary about it (it is small but more than Kazakhstan).
In the world (but espeically in east asia), there is a clash between masculinity (especially tradtional one) and feminism. But Mongolia seems to buck the trend. You don't need to tell me how mascuine Mongolian guys are. But Mongolian girls don't seem to fit the western or east asian traditional gender norms. They are much more independent and also quite tough. And this is not a modern thing. Traditionally, since they were from a nomadic tradition and not bound by Confucianism or Abrahamic religions, they took a more active role in the household. Some were even generals and warriors (Galdan Khan's wife was killed in the battle of against the manchus). Another reason why they were usually ideally stuck into a corner is because Mongolia's climate is ROUGH so everyone need sot work together to survive (setting up and packing yurts). If you look at ilkhanate paintings of the Khan's you can see the khan and his wife sitting on the same throne (the guide from the Chinggis khan museum said this is a uniquely Mongolian thing) since they ruled together. You cna read this post (https://www.reddit.com/r/mongolia/comments/1r2zc35/the_mongol_empire_was_the_most_feminist_empire_in/ ). And it is not just the Mongols, other steppe civilization had something similar (like Tomiris)
Modern day Mongolia is more feminist than other East Asian nations. There isn't that too much emphasize on virginity as in other societies like east asian and Abrahamic. Some girls told me they can tackle guys (if you watched physical asia you can see how strong some women can be). The submissive wife thing is not a thing there. It has a very high female workforce participation and women make up most of the university graduates (and no, gender studies is not a subject there). The first comment in this post has some good info (https://www.reddit.com/r/thepassportbros/comments/1kdzp1b/mongolia/ ) There is no gender conflict. Stuff like tattoos got adopted by Mongolians without much fuss and not taboo unlike east asia. Jessi is like seen as a maverick in Korea (in Mongolia she wouldn't raise any eyebrows since many rappers like her emerged) They have strip clubs openly advertised tho... (there is an unfortunate case of sex tourism) And yet TFR is much higher than east asia (it is still declining but still better than most countries). Divorce rate is actually quite low. Also Mongolia was communist so they also had soviet influence (but as I mentioned before it is not the only factor). Funny enough, they don't resent it like most of eastern eu. Like everywhere, Mongolia is feeling the effects of globalist capitalism (but it is pretty slow). And Mongolian guys are still very masculine (and live the traditional lifestyle unlike Japanese, Scandinavians etc.). And both Mongolian men and women are nationalistic and proud of their culture and history (most western feminists are not). I heard stories if foreign guy tries to sleep around Mongolian women too much, he could get into trouble
But yeah I am pretty distrustful with modern feminism. But do you think that east asian countries, asian americans or even the west can learn a few things from Mongolia. Mb some of the "red pill" guys should look at Mongolia.
Kazakhstan and Kyrgyzstan has elements of this but due to islam it is a bit muted