
u/Tsukkatsu

So... what was even the point of her even being a character?
No, really-- this whole thing makes no god damn sense. Why have rescuing her from the dungeon such a giant plot point if she were somehow too injured to to even give testimony about what happened in the dungeon and can't ever attend the academy or get better....
Even though many other severely injured characters, particularly the protagonist, can just get over whatever wounds without even magical intervention.
This seems like the typical fake"dark fantasy" bullshit where everyone aside from the protagonist is doomed to horrible fates while the protagonist remains entirely immune to all consequences for even the most bone-headed decisions.
Every other character suffers serious consequences, but the main character just skates through life untouchable and never truly suffering. This really is shit writing and it doesn't seem to be the faut of the anime studio.
Am I totally insane or are these two supposed to be the same girl?
Why is her whole hair color, hair style, and even EYE color completely different in Season 2?
But what she says about going to Xyrus with Art and visiting him occasionally, as well as her relationship with Feyrith.
Edit: I was able to find her credits, it is the same voice actress-- Nagamuta Moe. The character is credited simply as "Feyrith's friend" in her brown-haired, brown-eyes design and them gets credited as "Vio" within Season 2 with the purple hair and yellow eyed design. It is the same girl, I don't know why they so radically altered her design between ages 8 and 11.
Does Lolisa have a valid Adventurer's Card? If not, could she?
I think if a demon could register as an adventurer, she would have done so. She is the single demon who wanted to become something beyond what she was first created to be, maybe because she isn't a very good succubus.
- She was willing to become an assistant shopkeeper for Vanir and Wiz in order to earn Vanir's affection.
- She tried to become an adventurer with Dust's party, but her first quest ended in failure.
- Within Fantastic Days, which was a mobile game with many additional stories and voiced by the anime cast, she was part of the gacha system, where she would sneak around the adventurer's guild and would peek out behind a pillar if you got a rare pull. Perhaps suggesting that she couldn't actually join the adventurer's guild officially, but could still seek out parties that she could join without being official. But that she, of all succubi, is depicted hanging out there, then that suggests that she wants to be part of all that. She wants to be a real adventurer.
- But within the stories of the game, she could join other groups to work alongside them, and aside from Kazuma and Dust, she was most frequently a friend of Yunyun. The two failure girls who shouldn't be failures would look out for each other.
So what do you think? Does she have one, or only hope to be able to get one someday? Can she officially register to be in a party with other characters? How much is her having been first created as a demon going to serve as a detriment to her attempts to grow beyond that?
What might even happen if she tried to present herself as an adventurer that should be in the guild system, even by accident, or if someone tried to scan her adventurer card?
Is this an easily handwaved issue, or would it be a Pinocchio story where it is a pursuit for a demon created solely to sexually prey on male humans, who wants to become a real girl and goes chasing after that goal?
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[spoiler discussion] Is Arc 10 finally going to come clean about this?
The whole relationship between Otto and Ram has been set up from Arc 4, where these two needed no help at all to get together. When Subaru framed adopting Otto as a pet, Ram who was prepared to reject anyone that Subaru brought into their team well-- basically immediately accepted him.
The Otto side stories were 50-75% about his relationship with Ram-- about how his whole motivation in Arc 5 revolved entirely around getting Roswaal's book fixed (a book he wouldn't even know was destroyed nor the location of had Ram not put him up to this task) and a story that involved a situation where she was going to part from both Roswaal and Otto on the same morning but hurried her mana regeneration with Roswaal so that she could be there when Otto came out of the bath to be posed sexy on his desk with a pot of tea to serve him and spend as much time with him as she could before the trip.
But aside from the Academy If and Prophecy of the Throne side stories, where Ram indicates she will happily date Otto if it means Rem will get to date Subaru-- with at least the Prophecy of the Throne interaction indicating that while she's into it, Otto should become indebted to Roswaal if he likes her. The whole Academy If situation is framed as Subaru feeling bad for Otto for having to spend time with Ram while he gets to spend time with Rem, but a more critical examination of the situation indicates tha the twins were never expecting Subaru to show up because he normally wouldn't have been in that place at that time, but Otto's arrival was entirely expected-- meaning Ram forcing Otto into a date was the twins entire plan and Subaru showing up was a happy accident that allowed Rem to excuse herself and let Otto and Ram have time alone together.
There is also a reading of "The Three Idiots Set Out! The Earth Spider" where Otto's rejection of Marone (in her second appearance) and encouraging her to make a relationship with his younger brother "because he couldn't treat her as the most important woman in his life" although it would be fun means that there is some other woman in his life who is more important. And I don't see any strong indication that this person is Frederica or Emilia rather than Ram. He rejects a Ram-like girl (Marone) because there is a woman who is his most important person.
And then there was the side-story where Ram lead Garf and Petra into confronting the woman who put a bounty on Otto and kept him from ever going home. Otto was left behind so that Ram, Garf, and Petra could confront her. Ram acted like she didn't really care up until the moment Diodora questioned Otto's worth as a person. Both Ram and Petra gave her a death glare.
There really isn't anything else strong within Arcs 8-9 to indicate something between Otto and Ram is going on. Except that Otto gets hit on by two other red-haired women who echo Ram and he rejects them because... well, because apparently his heart belongs to one woman and he isn't a serial cheater like Subaru.
And then we hit Arc 10. Ram's first mention within the Arc is very, VERY weird. Because she was not mentioned within two chapters in which she was supposedly present and then only showed up, mentioned as being there in order to curse Subaru out for having promised to fix Rem and then drag Otto off to bed with her.
She is then apparently sleeping until Emilia is taken prisoner by the capital and can only choose one companion to take with her to the palace, Ram re-emerges to take that spot and although she makes more of a show to say good-bye to Rem and Garf, it is made clear that her three most important people are Rem, Garf, and Otto. But she's already got an understanding with Otto.
In fact, parallel to Emilia demonstrating her relationship with Subaru has deepened by showing off more of his thoughts and behavior without him being present, Otto and Ram are shown as being entirely synchronized. Ram needless praised Otto before the rulers of Lugunica while imagining if he were there he'd be upset about it. And then when she realizes she is in mortal danger, it's not Subaru nor Roswaal she wants to be rescued by-- she wants Rem to cheer on Garf and Otto to rescue her.
And then from Otto's chapter, when he is considering how to rescue those who have been taken captive-- he isn't worried about the royal candidates who he believes their enemies cannot kill without consequence. He is concerned that retainers can be killed without retribution-- which not only means he is concerned about leading the rest of his team in to rescue Emilia, but that he is primarily concerned about Ram's safety.
Otto/Ram is being purposely set up as a parallel to Subaru/Emilia and Reinhard/Felt.
Moreover within the Arc we have Otto denying accepting Reinhard's tea, possibly because he will only accept tea served by Ram, and him denying Emilia the right to princess-carry him and getting angry when Rem princess-carried him without permission-- his stated reason was because Subaru would get angry. But maybe it's not so much Subaru he is concerned about getting jealous and more Ram's insecurities.
It's been hinted at and teased for so very long, but I think Arc 10 is just going to make it undeniable that Otto and Ram have very strong feelings for each other prior to Otto receiving Roswaal's restored tome and being able to expose just what a horrific person Roswaal really is.
Because whether Ram remains loyal to Roswaal even after being exposed to his crimes or not-- it will mean a whole lot more if it becomes entirely clear that she also harbors romantic feelings towards Otto. But also her 1 year with him cannot overcome her decade long devotion to Roswaal.
This relationship was kept muted to this point, but now that there are three princesses to rescue and three groups to rescue them and we know who Ram wants to rescue her.
And the opponent of this arc is Capella who has already shown that she will transform into the woman any man most loves. I very much suspect a scene where Capella confronts Rem, Garf, and Otto and transforms into a more ideal version of Ram with it remaining unclear which of them she transformed into that form for. But ultimately, I think it is important to finally establish that Otto and Ram have had a semi-romantic relationship for a long time prior to Otto getting Roswaal's Tome of Wisdom back and being able to expose Roswaal's crimes.
But it does feel weird that outside of some initial flirtations on Arc 4, an Arc that ended with Ram declaring her love for Roswaal, that every indication of this relationship got buried in side stories and IF Routes unless one over-examines Otto's motivation in Arc 5 or such, until Arc 10 when it finally gets exposed.
I really think that before Arc 10 finishes, we are going to get hit with a moment that just entirely exposes this relationship to Subaru in a way that is totally undeniable, even if Petra, Rem, Garf, and possibly Emilia already know.
[spoiler discussion] Why is everyone so damn afraid of Otto?
Has he ever done anything in the entire series that has actually lived up to his constant hype? He seems to basically lose every battle he is thrust into where he is more than a supporter and barely escape otherwise. Let's go over the points...
- The leader of The Six Tongues conspired to ruin his merchant career to turn him into a wage slave and make him an agent.
- He got credit for defeating the Archbishop of Sloth even though all he really did was get captured, and then once he got free to drive his cart really fast and give Subaru grenades to hurl at Betelgeuse. Still-- he is apparently credited as an equal participant in this battle (or maybe that was just how Ram chose to phrase it.)
- He put up a fight against Garfiel for like... three minutes, dropping him down a shallow hole full of bugs, before having to run off and hide behind Ram's skirt. That should hardly award him any points in being a frightening opponent-- especially when Subaru won a fist-fight against Garfiel a few minutes later. For which Garfiel looks up to him as his respected and reliable older brother thereafter.
- He is the only boy who won the favor of the Oni goddess within a minute of meeting her. She got super attached to him quite fast and even more so over their year together until they became totally synchronized despite her apparently being in love with someone else. It seems he is just so valuable, powerful, and dangerous, keeping him loyal to Roswaal is worth "pretending" she likes him and going on dates with him, and getting jealous when he drinks anything but her tea, and luring him out so she can get him blacked out drunk. And telling him where the destroyed Tome of Wisdom is so he can go and get it repaired and check its contents.
- He is somehow untraceable by the Tome of Wisdom, leaving Roswaal disturbed that Echidna could not predict what effect Otto would have on the outcome of things and sought to make him a servant. Roswaal forgives him for burning down the mansion and hires him at his other mansion at a very high salary to do all of the accounting work and inventory control, and such.
- Anastasia had weirdly high praise for him and a strong interest in meeting him before she ever had based on just "he is a merchant" I guess, even though Otto was never even a successful merchant unlike her. Meanwhile Joshua was terrified of him.
- People who have come to meet the camp hear about Otto through reputation and believe him to be a cold-blooded, militant person who will ruthlessly end the lives of those who displease him. Near as I can tell, the only people he has ever killed were that rape/slavery gang operating out of an isolated city-- and only then because they kidnapped him, held him prisoner for a week, and tried to use his cart to get past a mountain pass, which killed some bandits and saved him and Marone (future sister-in-law). Otherwise?.... I guess he was slower in forgiving Meili than anyone else.
- His cool moment in Pristella of summoning and sending Water Dragons against someone turned to complete shit. He was only rescued by Betty, and even then-- nearly had his legs cut off. Yet somehow people within the world talk as if his efforts had at all been successful here and not a complete and total failure compared to literally every other battle that took place.
- Gluttony Subaru was told by literally every single member of the Emilia camp that Otto was Subaru's most dangerous opponent. Not Emilia or Roswaal or Ram-- no, all other members of the Emilia camp besides Otto and Garfiel had died to Subaru's hands, and yet-- the voice of every single one told Subaru that if anyone was going to defeat him, it would be Otto. They all agreed that he was the most dangerous member of the camp.
- An Amazon tribe leader in Vollachia thought he was as handsome as the Vollachian Emperor and tried to get his favor. Similarly, one of the Valachian top generals also thought he was way more of an intelligent tactician than he really proved to be. (Also, both of these women have red hair, just like Marone, and arguably like the Oni goddess, cannot help but stand out.)
- Sword Saint Reinhard has sought to be his friend since they were children, and wanted to make tea for him. He is also one of two people (the other being Subaru) for whom the dragon sword can be pulled out, and yet can also be defeated by Reinhard is a single strike without even using the sword. It's the most confusing thing. (oh, look-- another redhead.)
Some of these can be passed off as him having gotten an unearned reputation, but in many of these other cases, we have people who should know better verifying him to be the greatest threat, or who have magical means of testing his threat level and assessing him to be a top threat. This all doesn't make much sense when we only ever see him fail in battle.
But ultimately, like... every single time we have seen him get thrust into a battle, he is almost useless and generally completely fails or adds so little to victory that it feels weird to give him any credit. Yet everyone acts like he is one of the most valuable and dangerous people in the whole world-- as though everyone close to him, from Reinhard to Petra to Ram, knows something about him that he doesn't know himself-- something that seems to escape Subaru's notice.
And at least Subaru has RBD, meaning that he has infinite tries at any given scenario, so if he does badly enough to die, he can retry it with that knowledge. Otto has no such safety net to fall back on and thus has to act much more cautiously in every situation.
Even if it turns out that his Divine Protection is potentially way more powerful than the way he has generally resulted in using it-- it shouldn't create this situation where so very many people act frightened or impressed with him despite having no reason to. Why do those who know him best think him even potentially more powerful and dangerous than Roswaal or Reinhard? Where magical objects are even wary of him in a very similar way that they are to Subaru, even though he lacks the impossible cheat codes to the world that Subaru possesses.
Doesn't it feel quite confusing that in-world magical objects and the people in general act like he is just far more impressive than anything we've ever gotten to see him do would ever suggest?
Obviously we are going to have humans and saiyajin (who are basically just humans with optional monkey tails but they power up and change hair color). But what other races do you think we might see?
- The Namekians are an easy staple Dragon Ball race that was in both in Xenoverse 1 and 2. I don't see any reason to get rid of them.
- The Majin race was also in both Xenoverse 1 and 2, although since Xenoverse 2 we have arguably seen more Majin characters which might mean we should get to see a wider variety of body types for this race.
- The Frieza race STILL doesn't have an official name despite there being a decent number of characters that fit within this race. They were in Xenoverse 2, so I see no reason the game would get rid of them.
- The Glind, named in Dragonball Daima as something other than "Kaioshin", are shorter than humans and Saiyajin and come in all sorts of skin colors (but usually pink/purple) but always have elf ears. They served only as supporting NPCs in Xenoverse 1 and 2, I don't even think an NPC of this race was selectable as a partner in Xenoverse 2. Even so, Dragonball Daima fleshed them out and explained how they were all born from trees as fruit but now the trees that bore them are extinct and so they are dwindling in number. While strong in both magic and ki, they do seem to be somewhat limited in terms of physical abilities.
- The "Makian" otherwise known as "Makaioshin" or just "Demons", these guys arguably date back to the original Dragon Ball if you count for anime-only content. Their appearances have also been solely filler/anime-only or movie-only content I think. At least for the most part. But this group is said to have a reptilian appearance with green or blue skin. They have ALWAYS served as antagonists and in both Xenoverse 1 and 2, they were the main antagonists. It seemed like the idea that any members of this race could not be evil (or, at least any that could rise to any position of power) was impossible. But after Dragonball Daima? Yeah-- the Demons are just aliens that live in a pocket subdimension and are otherwise just completely normal people who can have any morality. So a member of this race could absolutely be a hero.
- The Tuffles - Otherwise known as Tsufrujin (mixing up "fruit people" in contrast to Saiyans being generally named after vegetables), the Tuffles were the original inhabitants of what became "Planet Vegeta". In the main universe, after being extinguished by the greedy Saiyans they initially welcomed, any survivors go on to become "Mutant Machines" (no clear distinction is made between wholly artificial robots and Tuffle cyborgs). They are generally indistinguishable from humans until they "power up" in which they invariably become blue-skinned people with either elf-ears or covered ears. The one exception to this are Kami and Oren which are cyborgs created in Universe 6 where the race wasn't bothered by the Saiyans and yet they were either still wiped out by Kami and Oren or at least those two killed a ton of their population. It really seems this race rose to any sort of success in Universe 2 which featured their people, in fact it is unconfirmed just how many of them were their people. Which technically means they might have featured more than the Namekians or Friezajin. The Tuffles are generally extremely proficient in technology and try to use that bridge the gap. But they do seem to have some magic ability that seems oddly focused on singing and dancing performances to create effects.
To be honest though? The three I listed that weren't in Xenoverse 2 have just SO very much appearance overlap that they are nearly visually indistinguishable.