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This’ll be interesting to see play out. Don’t know how much of a difference it’ll make, but I’ll definitely remember it for my games

So at this point after all the dust has settled with her nerfs, it’s been kinda collectively agreed upon that Silver is now one of if not the worst character in the game (depends on who you ask). With the update coming hopefully soon that could potentially change her up, I have high hopes that whatever changes they make to her really bring her up.

That being said, speculation is super fun! As such, I wanted to throw this post together of a bunch of ideas I had for buffs to Silver that could range from Easy Buffs which are more simple changes all the way to Borderline Reworks. Also I’ll be trying not to use many numbers behind the buff ideas, because trying to tie numbers to them just invites back and forths on what numbers are too high or low, when I wanted this list to be more conceptual than concrete.

Also also, every buff in this list is written standalone. So every buff idea listed is meant to be taken as “What if this buff and ONLY this buff was implemented?” rather than trying to buff multiple things at once. I am NOT advocating for her to get all or even any of these buffs, these are just ideas I came up with. Whatever Yoshi’s gonna do, Yoshi’s gonna do.

Lastly, Silver is in a weird spot right now where’s she both kind of a frontliner, kind of an assassin. Because of this, I’ve got a mixture of buff ideas that play into each identity, hence the point of these buffs being ones to consider standalone. Not even Yoshi seems to know which role she should be in!

EASY BUFFS (Simple changes):
- Increase base stamina
- Increase stamina while in Lycan Curse mode
- Increased stamina regen speed
- Increase gun RoF for human form
- Bola/Kick pass through minions and damage them along the way
- Reduced Slam Fire spread as potential addition to T2 upgrade
- Bug fixes (pls Yoshi)
- Ability to carry momentum from Kick into slide

POTENTIAL SHAKEUPS (Larger buffs that wouldn’t change how Silver is played much, but would spice it up or make it easier to receive value from her kit):
- Innate debuff resist while in Lycan Curse mode
- Increased T1 DR% while in Lycan Curse mode
- Heal-On-Kill restored to T3 Lycan Curse
- Ability to scale walls (vertical movement only, jump to detach) while in Lycan Curse mode
- Lifesteal on remaining Lycan Curse abilities as T2 or T3 upgrades (her wolf ability upgrades are really boring and lame, seriously give them a read if you haven’t already)
- Multiple charges on Bola to replace T3 upgrade
- Bola drags enemies to the ground to replace T3 upgrade (if you can’t tell I hate the T3 Bola upgrade its so useless)
- Bonus health-per-boon scaling to potentially replace (or maybe coexist with idk) current bonus base health of T2 Lycan Curse upgrade
- Very short period of Unstoppable on kill to replace (or potentially coexist with idk) ability refresh on Lycan Curse T3
- Extra time added to Lycan Curse timer when dealing/taking damage (And with diminishing returns) to replace T3 Lycan Curse time extension on kill (kills would still reset abilities though). To go with this, Lycan Curse time could ‘overflow’ above its duration by some percentage (Could be a net nerf if not balanced carefully though)

BORDERLINE REWORKS (Changes I just thought would be cool but would be drastic changes to Silver and I wouldn’t actually expect to be implemented or even considered):
- Lycan Curse alt-fire Sonic Bark/Howl to deal ranged damage (mostly exists just to knock people off line trying to use it to escape)
- A Bloodscent trail (similar to Drifter) that Silver triggers when she does damage in Lycan Curse that she can use to follow enemies she hurt but are fleeing. The trail could lead to them and potentially give her a speed boost or faster stamina regen while chasing the trail. Trail would disappear and buffs would fade on turning back to Silver.
- A passive that, while Silver is crouching in Lycan Curse, she smells enemies in a radius around her and can see them through walls, and could continue to see them through walls for a short period after standing back up. She’d have to stay crouched for a certain period of time to avoid it being completely free on just tapping the crouch key though, probably like half a second or a full second while sliding.
- A bounty hunting passive that randomly picks a target on the enemy team (and changes targets when you die or if that enemy dies, cycling through the entire enemy team before restarting the cycle). When Silver receives credit for that enemy’s death (Kill or Assist), she receives an amount of souls (lesser for an Assist, and even less depending on how many allies were credited for the kill to prevent teamfights from being too much free money).

And I’d love to hear any ideas you guys might have as to what could be a cool/interesting/fun change for her.

Sidenote, CallMeKimbo is great. Love his perspective as an average-skill player

The character was nerfed purely because of pro play because, let’s be real, no one on ladder was actually fighting an OP Silver because her winrates on ladder were average, only above average in Eternus (51% iirc).

The nerfs struck her hard, and now over the past 14 days, she’s had the lowest winrate in All Ranks, genuinely competes with Sinclair for lowest winrate in every individual rank up to Ascendant, only barely getting 3rd worst in a few ranks, and only sits at a somewhat reasonable winrate (48.01%, so still 29th place on a roster of 38) in Eternus along with a moderate Pick/Ban rate in DLNS.

…and I’m supposed to sit happy and sing along with everyone that this makes my favorite character balanced? That I’m supposed to be happy that in the game I and most others play that my character lands anywhere from total garbage to a little less garbage because she’s now finally balanced in the gamemode a grand total of like 40 people play every Wednesday that is structured vastly differently to the game I play? That I’m entitled or boosted if I point out that her new metrics point to this nerf being an overcorrection?

Fuck that. Trickle-down balancing is bullshit and does not work when the people being balanced around are playing a game structured so differently to the game I’m playing (pick phases, ban phases, snake draft, constant comms, pre-determined line order).

I don’t know about y’all but a game needing to keep a character shit on ladder so that they’re just okay in comp screams to me that the character design has failed massively and I really don’t like that in the long list of changes that Yoshi has seemingly decided that Silver’s current spot is perfectly reasonable. That old set of data pre-changes was a sign she needed a rework or a rebalance, not a nerf.

FOR LAZY PEEPS:
Kriselle still has a chance, as Noelle potentially may not actually harbor any real feelings for Susie, but rather may just love her because of who Susie replaces in her life.

THE POST:
Aborted WR for Ch5 I think is the most interesting (pun intended) that the game has been with character exploration and deep diving into the thought processes of its characters. For starters, the entire monologue Noelle gives about her life, what she thinks of it, how that makes her feel? Chef’s kiss. Beautiful angst in an extremely believable way. But I want to focus specifically on the “aborted” WR of Ch5, which is if you let the screen white-out during the drowning sequence.

After Susie rescues you both, we see little scenes of Susie and Noelle chatting, with random, harsh cuts to a black screen with Noelle saying “Nothing changed.” before jumping back, repeating multiple times until she finally states “…a Noelle is just a Noelle.” and returning.

What I want to focus on here is, specifically, her repeating of “Nothing changed.” during her montage with Susie. While yes, this can be interpreted as her just putting her mask back on and continuing as normal once again, I have an alternative interpretation I’d like to share that’s been floating around for a while but has now potentially been strengthened by this scene:

Noelle doesn’t love Susie. Rather, Noelle misses December.

This interpretation originally came to me when I thought about how off it was that Noelle fell for Susie so quickly. Then it resurfaced again, when we got to see December’s room, getting more details about her character, and when I really started to see that December and Susie have some very striking parallels based on what we know. Both rebellious, tomboy characters who express typically more masculine traits who can play the guitar.

Then, this changes the interpretation. Noelle saying “Nothing changed.” could now also potentially mean “I have a December in my life again, so therefore, my life is back to normal.” even in the form of Susie. It also pairs well with her final statement. “A Noelle is just a Noelle.” now takes on the potential connotation “A Noelle needs a December.”

I dunno. Thoughts? Am I coping? I’m probably just coping.

FOR LAZY PEEPS:
Krusie still has a chance, as both Kris and Susie seem to genuinely like one another for who they are, unlike Noelle who potentially only likes Susie for who she replaces. And if Susie ends up discovering that, I highly doubt she’d end up taking lightly.

THE POST:
Aborted WR for Ch5 I think is the most interesting (pun intended) that the game has been with character exploration and deep diving into the thought processes of its characters. For starters, the entire monologue Noelle gives about her life, what she thinks of it, how that makes her feel? Chef’s kiss. Beautiful angst in an extremely believable way. But I want to focus specifically on the “aborted” WR of Ch5, which is if you let the screen white-out during the drowning sequence.

After Susie rescues you both, we see little scenes of Susie and Noelle chatting, with random, harsh cuts to a black screen with Noelle saying “Nothing changed.” before jumping back, repeating multiple times until she finally states “…a Noelle is just a Noelle.” and returning.

What I want to focus on here is, specifically, her repeating of “Nothing changed.” during her montage with Susie. While yes, this can be interpreted as her just putting her mask back on and continuing as normal once again, I have an alternative interpretation I’d like to share that’s been floating around for a while but has now potentially been strengthened by this scene:

Noelle doesn’t love Susie. Rather, Noelle misses December.

This interpretation originally came to me when I thought about how off it was that Noelle fell for Susie so quickly. Then it resurfaced again, when we got to see December’s room, getting more details about her character, and when I really started to see that December and Susie have some very striking parallels based on what we know. Both rebellious, tomboy characters who express typically more masculine traits who can play the guitar.

Then, this changes the interpretation. Noelle saying “Nothing changed.” could now also potentially mean “I have a December in my life again, so therefore, my life is back to normal.” even in the form of Susie. It also pairs well with her final statement. “A Noelle is just a Noelle.” now takes on the potential connotation “A Noelle needs a December.”

I dunno. Thoughts? Am I coping? I’m probably just coping.

What’s crackalackin’ y’all

With Deltarune Chapter 5 just over the horizon, and especially with the potential for SOULelle in that chapter being extremely high coming off the back of a certain Chapter 4 scene, we felt it necessary to take a few precautions when it comes to posts being made so high off the release of a brand new chapter that not everyone is gonna have the opportunity to play at the same time.

As such, for the next 2 weeks starting June 24th 2026 and ending July 8th 2026, all posts regarding content in Chapter 5 must disclose in the title that they contain Chapter 5 story content (with a simple “SPOILER” or “Ch5” in the title being enough) and also must be Spoiler tagged. If you see a post missing either of these, report it under Rouxl 8 (or I could make a brand new Rouxl for spoilers, up to y’all). If a post is missing a spoiler marking, we’ll just correct that and move on as I’m pretty sure mods have the ability to just do that (I don’t really know the extent of mod abilities because y’all have behaved so well, so thx for that!). If it’s missing the text in the title, the post will be removed and the OP asked to reupload the post with the proper post title.

And that should be it! What do y’all think? Sound fair? Should the spoiler period be longer, shorter, or is it fine? Lemme know if y’all got any grievances or similar down below.

oh and also DELTARUNE TOMORROW!!!!!