The two biggest issues with this

Some posted a really good substack in r/polycritical about why they felt being poly was a net negative for society. Among the three reasons (most people can’t just stop being jealous, no standard norm, more people means more conflict) two resonated with me. I think these are just the main issues I have with it boiled down.

Ive talked about it in comments of other posts, but the fact that most people cannot just stop feeling jealousy, rejection, or some other kind of emotional pain or distress at their partner being with someone else. Especially when it’s not just sex, when love and the possibility of another full on relationship gets involved, it’s a lot worse.

>“ I have an emotion spreadsheet I’ve filled out nearly every day for the last 7 years. I'm pretty good at optimizing my emotions.
And that was my downfall. I just couldn’t admit to myself that I couldn’t change this part of me. After all, I’d read Ethical Slut and More Than Two and they’re full of stories saying “I used to be like you. But I just worked on being a more confident person and trusting my partner and did some CBT, and now I have compersion!” And that just seemed so much more enlightened. If they can do it, surely I can too. But the thing is, most people can’t.””

From the substack. The author was talking about how she had to deal with her emotions for the 7 years she was poly. A spreadsheet of emotions, therapy, books on top of books. She goes on to say she spent a lot of time crying alone when her partners were with other partners, and then feeling shame that she hadn’t worked on herself enough to feel “compersion.”

There is SO MUCH pressure and shaming to just ignore how much it hurts and act like normal emotional reactions to your partner being with someone else are unnatural problems that need to be worked through. As the quote says “I couldnt admit to myself that I couldn’t change this part of me.”

Most people can’t and they should not have to!
It pisses me off a lot how much the poly community tries to shame normal feelings of hurt and act like it’s progressive. They posture about love being equal and (I heard from my ex) “You’re enough! I will always come home to you!”

The substack also says it’s easy to promise not to leave when there’s nobody to leave to. But once there is someone else, watch it fall apart.

The second point is there’s no standard expectations or norms. Nobody has a set of expectations that extends across the community as a social norm. Everyone is doing it differently, sometimes with each person being different within a polycule. Sarah is open but her boyfriend has two other partners in a throuple but he wants to have sex outside of the three and one of them is mad he’s sleeping with Sarah and Sarah’s husband is seeing Lynn on the side but Lynn wants more time with him and...

Does anybody even fucking know what they’re doing on any given day?

I said this in my no true Scotsmen thread, but is always saying what poly isn’t, but can’t seem to define what it is, because everyone is doing something different. There’s just no baseline norms. And because there’s no baseline norms, there’s nothing to fall back on when you’re hurt. Just more bs about “working through your feelings.”

These two things really underline my main problems. Monogamy can come with its own challenges but at least there’s a baseline for normal expectations and you’re not told to shove down your feelings if your partner fucks someone else (in healthy spaces at leas.)

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 11 days ago

What is the difference?

I‘ve heard some people say “I’m not poly but I’m open.” or “I have an open marriage but we’re not poly.”

I fail to see the difference.

I’m aware there’s different poly setups (throuples, polycules, networks, nested partners, relationship anarchy, etc) but in the end, all of these setups are non monogamous. Being open is non monogamous.

Am I missing something or is there a difference?

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 17 days ago

People who just cannot let you finish a sentence

They ask you something and then never let you get a word out.

I have a coworker who does this and it makes my eyeballs itch.

She asked me about my upcoming wedding, and I said we were working on our final guest list, or at least I tried. Went like this:

”Well there was someone a guest was trying to bring as a plus one but we didn’t know them at all so-“

”OH MY GOD that’s weird! Like, yeah don’t invite people you don’t know that’s so weird!”

”We didn’t want a stranger there so-“

”OH what if they were like, a huge alcoholic and puked everywhere! That would be such a mess!”

”We’re having a dry wedding, we don‘t-“

”Wait why aren’t you serving alcohol?”

”His mom is in reco-“

”I mean that’s fine, that’s fine, but like why? It‘s fine, but why?

”His mom is in re-“

”I mean I guess you can do other stuff right? But like why?”

Then she turned to another person and started talking to them. People like this…do you want to have a conversation or not?

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 3 months ago

Researchers/studies of the gender wage gap

I’m interested in finding studies and research on the gender wage gap. I did attempt to look on google scholar (for funsies I want everyone to know my autocorrect tried to change “scholar” to “schplat.”) but it kept telling me “your device may be sending an automated query, to protect users we cannot fulfill your reques.”

whatever that means…

My understanding of the wage gap is that it may not necessarily always be that an individual woman is getting paid less than a male colleague in the same position (though this does happen.) But female-dominated industries overall pay less than male-dominated industries. And when more women enter a field, the standard of pay in that field begins to trend down.

Im looking for good authors, researchers, or other sources that show where the intersection of gender and race are affected, and which industries are the worst offenders. I’m also curious to know if there’s any data that shows when men enter a field, does pay go up in that field for everyone or just the men?

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 4 months ago

Waterproof/smudgeproof eye makeup

Tried posting in wedding planning but it might be better suited for here.

I’m getting married in September and I’m doing my own makeup. I’m looking for recommendations for waterproof eyeliner or smudge proof. Waterproof eye primer suggestions are also welcome. Currently I use urban decay and it’s ok, but I’m open to suggestions.

I have a goth aesthetic and my dress is red and I have a black veil. Suggestions for pigmented shadow is welcome too.

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 4 months ago

Makeup recommendations?

My wedding is in September and I’m doing my own makeup. Does anyone have recommendations for waterproof/smudge proof eyeliner or shadows?

I have a goth aesthetic and that’s no different here. So if anyone has suggestions for brands that have dark pigments that would be great.

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 4 months ago

“Why doesn’t my XYZ look like the picture?” Picture is AI

Alright…some AI images *are* difficult to tell. I’m not going to pretend there isn’t a whole subReddit dedicated to trying to sus out if something is AI or not. Ai has been getting more advanced so sometimes it can be hard to tell.

This peeve is not about those types of images.

When something is really obviously AI, and someone complains that the product/clothing/haircut they spent money on doesn’t look like the picture. They didn’t even try to rub two brain cells together to think about it. “Why does this sweater I spent $2.99 on from a janky youtube ad not look like the one in the picture?” Probably because it was spat out by a Gen AI program. ”Why didn’t my hair turn out like my inspo pics?!” Well Janet, it’s because your shitty inspo pic literally wasn’t real, the model had 6 fingers on her third hand. “I saw this cool dragon shaped coffee table on facebook? It looks like it’s moving! Where can I order it?” You can’t because it’s not real.

Obvious tells that the image was AI generated. Weird yellowish tints, limbs that come from nowhere, hair that looks like it’s floating in one direction and blending into a shoulder in another. “Why doesn’t it look like the picture?”

BECAUSE THE PICTURE IS FUCKING AI!!

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 4 months ago

“Occupied” means someone is in here!!

I don’t know how often others encounter this, but if a bathroom door is locked that means someone is using it. It doesn’t mean “keep trying to force the door by shaking it and yanking on the handle.”

Especially if it’s the kind of lock that turns from “vacant” to “occupied” when turned. And even more so when the lock has a numbered code.

I was using the bathroom of a coffee place today and it had both a numbered code and a lock that turned to say “occupied.” I heard the beeping of someone entering the code, clearly having ignored the “occupied“ on the lock. They shook the door and obviously it didn’t open. Instead of realizing this meant someone was in there, **they tried putting in the code and shook the door four more times.** Even after I yelled “OCCUPIED!!”

The person on the other side was typing in the code for a fifth time when I opened the door and asked them if they considered someone might be in there.

This is kind of an extreme example but far from the only time I’ve experienced someone trying to open an obviously locked bathroom door.

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 5 months ago
▲ 242 r/PetPeeves

So when you try to click/tap it, you just end up being taken to the product website. Or it just doesn’t close the ad when you click it so you just keep clicking it in futility.

Ads that must run for a certain amount of time before you can actually close them, but don’t have a visible timer, so you’re stuck sitting through almost the whole thing.

This kind of shit is diabolical.

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 5 months ago

I’m 5 months out from my wedding and it feels like everything is going wrong all at once.

We sent our save the dates and already, before we’ve even had the official invitations printed, our guest list went from 80 to less than 50. And a lot of that is my family.

My dad passed away three years ago so my BIL was supposed to walk me down the aisle. But last month he was in a car accident and ended up needing spinal surgery. He was a contractor so he didn’t have medical leave or decent health coverage. The person who hit him (100% at fault) had minimum coverage so his insurance barely covers anything. They got a lawyer but basically the lack of coverage and the other person’s lack of assets means the court would find him indigent so they dropped it. They have 40k in medical bills. They’re not coming.

My sister was going to make the cake, so now we’re going to have to find an alternative.

I asked my three uncles and none of them are coming either. Two of them are not able to afford traveling (out of state) and one will be bringing my cousin to her university campus in the UK. So that family won’t be there.

My fiancé was supposed to wear my dad’s wedding ring. But we just found out it’s tungsten and can’t be resized. He first said he’d wear it as a necklace. Nobody is going to know it means he’s married if it’s a necklace. He said we could push this back a year and it would be easier. We already did that once and at this point we have made non refundable deposits. Plus I don’t want to push it another fucking year.

I’m having chest pains over all this.

EDIT: I feel like I vented about things that are really causing me emotional distress and I’m not being heard. I do not want to walk myself. It matters to me that I have someone walking me. The ring matters to me. Wearing it matters to me. Hearing how this stuff doesn’t matter to other people isn’t helping. It’s just making me feel like everyone is making it about themselves.

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u/Weird_Bluebird_3293 — 6 months ago