Fatalism is necessary due to God's foreknowledge

I'm not talking about about the non-argument "God knows what we do, so how do we have free will".

I'm speaking specifically about God's foreknowledge and contingency/dependency.

If I have a choice in what I do, if I truly originate a will/motive/desire, then am I not influencing God's foreknowledge/knowledge and therefore God's knowledge is dependent on what I do?

Example:

If I drink water right now.

#1 Did I drink water in accordance to it being part of God's knowledge before I ever existed?

or

#2 Did God's knowledge get shaped by my decision and therefore is contingent?

It seems like a dilemma between:

a) No moral accountability

or

b) God/God's knowledge is contingent

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u/Which_Childhood_9493 — 2 months ago

Just a question to clear up some things.

Dhul Qarnayn is evidently the figure of the Syriac Alexander Legend.

My 2 questions however are the following:

  1. Who is the author of that specific writing? Some say Jacob of Serugh, some say it's misattributed to him.
  2. Whoever wrote it, is there any explicit statement or reason to believe they were consciously & explicitly writing a fable, or did the author try to pass it off as a real story?

u/chonkshonk, tagging you because you're very knowledgeable on the subject

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u/Which_Childhood_9493 — 2 months ago

Although Muslims believe in free-will, it's clear from the Quran, hadith literature and history that Islam has a very strong tradition of predeterminism or fatalism.

I'm curious why such a concept would have been drilled so hard, from a historical or external perspective.

Why was it so necessary to enforce it?

Something that comes to mind, might or might not be unrelated, but Muhammad hated people crying and mourning over a calamity, so much as telling the women who cried that they'd have hot molten metal poured into their ears as a punishment in Hell.

Is there some reason Muhammad would have pushed this concept?

Additional food for thought:

Could it be that most of the verses about predestiny come in a time of wars as to not demoralize the troops? "Don't lament on a losing battle, it's predestined by Allah."

We also see that monasticism is made forbidden because it would distract people from becoming warriors and procreating.

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u/Which_Childhood_9493 — 2 months ago