u/Wolf_Of_Roses

Evil People: This one I feel like is mostly self explanatory Chara commits genocide, Vortex is brutal and ruthless tearing the survivors apart to make them “perfect”, bendy I feel like some people could debate but from what I could find he commits murder and a lot of bad acts though he could be moved two tiers down depending on perception, Eggman is just evil you know with the whole….animal cruelty, world domination,etc.

Bad with Redemption: Monika had ultimately ruined the lives of Sayori, Yuri and Natsuki….making their worst traits amplified to the point of no return. The reason she is down below the others is because if things were to go as normal back in DDLC world Monika realizes that true happiness will never happen with the game and shuts it down. She clearly cares about us the player and isn’t fully irredeemable it’s got to be hard learning you are a video game character (doesn’t mean what she did was right but uh….yeah). She is still bad but feels less evil than those above her.

Factors out of their control deem their morality : Yuri got hit with a triple whammy of insanity first by Monika’s tampering, then by an Undertale shadow crystal and finally by Vortex’s resurrection process. Yuri didn’t choose to be insane she was forced into it by others and what she does now is because of her fractured mind due to these factors. Frisk is a character whose morality is often deemed by the player. They can make Frisk a good pacifist, an evil genocidal person or somewhere inbetween. It’s up to the player what Frisk’s morality is.

Good people who are flawed: Sans is kind of complicated because he is a good person however he has made plenty of mistakes due to laziness and apathy when it comes to teh resets. The cup brothers did do dirty work for the devil because of the snake eyes Cuphead rolled however since these two are based in the good ending they did destroy the contracts and free the Inkwell residents from the Devil. Vanilla is weird for me because she is a good person however her personality heel turn in this game conveys her as someone who if not unchecked will absolutely kill an exe and also she seems to be defensive and aggressive toward strangers to the point her daughter is a bit scared.

Very good people: Sonic is the hero of Möbius who fights evil every day and stand up for others. Cream is literally a child and helps Sonic with his adventures. Sayori is also a victim of Monika however she is still a good person. Boris is the opposite of Bendy willing to help and defend Henry during the game.

(Feel free to disagree with me and make your own suggestions in the comments)

So back when the original game was up I aimed to get Nightmare Vanilla but I couldn’t due to the game shutting down and me only having vanilla at 44. My first was actually Sayori.

Then when this game came up my data couldn’t be restored and I had to start from scratch. So I hunkered down and grinded a bunch with rabbit mom. I actually started late because I played more cream than vanilla.

But today I finally did it….I have nightmare vanilla after so long. After so many games with failed counters and whiffed grabs I managed to get her.

I’m going for Monika or Cream next since those are my two other highest level characters currently.

(The game I got it was funny too since I was taking most of the beating from the vortex)

Like sure all the minions are meant to be horrific in some way but…something is literally growing out of Vanilla’s left eye socket and in her normal skin her iris becoming so small compared to the bloodshot eye white…creepy. Also the flag being stabbed through her is quite gruesome. The default skin also has her spear missing probably implying it was either destroyed or disposed of. I like how it’s red on the fancy skin though.

(Unfunny joke I know)

(I escaped)

Side note: I don’t know why I love her LMS it’s just fun. Especially the build up bit near the end.

I had Nightmare Sayori before the update and now everything is gone including my 40k kromer. I basically have to restart now….

People whenever they need to distance themselves from their family do it for a reason. It isn’t out of the blue, it isn’t because someone else told them to, it isn’t because a lack of valuing family…it’s because the relationship is beyond mending. Abusive people more times than not can’t be reasoned with. People who often stand behind the notion of ungratefulness don’t understand the other person’s experience. Family can be a strong bond but it’s also a two sided one. If the family is terrible to the child they shouldn’t be expected to take it and be grateful because of blood ties.

I am someone who had to distance myself from a relative due to their emotional instability and instead of reflecting they continue to self destruct and even live in delusions with photoshop A.I. No one is wrong for distancing themselves from harmful familial relationships. They are just looking out for themselves since the parents fail to do so.

I know this is probably the coldest take known to man but thought I would do it anyway.

“What is this weird trend everyone is doing…saw the cool sword guy do it, saw a stranger in Hell in do it and even Bel herself gave it a try…seems strange to me.”

Oof getting Sayori level 50 was so much easier than getting Vanilla to where I got her now (7 more levels….then I’ll finally have it). Guess now I’ll have to dedicate myself to Vanilla to finally get to level 50 …have a feeling that’s going to be very frustrating.

I love how she shows concern for cream, advises Sonic to think things through and points out Sans constant laziness. She sadly doesn’t say anything to Boris,Cuphead or Bendy from what I tried. Also Sonic,Cream and Sans were the only characters I got to test on besides those who didn’t work who I mentioned before. Still haven’t seen if she says anything to Eggman,Vanilla,Frisk,Sayori or Mugman (probably not him since his brother didn’t get anything).

So I become executioner and load in and I see…TWO sans?! It wasn’t much of a problem in terms of impacting my gameplay but still sans mitosis

“Judas is a good buddy of mine I apologize if his grand debut was a bit…extreme…he sometimes gets a bit carried away. He does really mean well he just went a bit far with the whole takeover thing for his grand debut. He agreed he might need to slow down and enjoy hell for a bit.”

I just got out of one of if not the most tedious servers ever. I was the ONLY person willing to play exe meaning I had to back to back play just for the game to not be stuck in a loop of waiting. Several people would just not select anything and 2 people even selected someone (first was a Vortex and second was a Chara) try for 2 seconds, not get immediate results and then reset. One of these survivors who wouldn’t select was even a level 100 Sonic. The guy even left because I punished his missed sweep kick and spindashes.

One person said the reason they don’t play exe is because they just don’t know how to play the role. They claimed whenever they played exe they get bullied. I understand that survivors definitely have favor in this game but not at least trying holds everyone up. I told him practice makes perfect. If you practice then you’ll be able to spot how to counter survivors. Sans for example is quite predictable, Vanilla you can bait out her grab and counter, etc.

You think I wanna be stuck playing Vortex, Chara or Yuri the whole time? No I’d like to continue getting Vanilla up to level 50, I’d like to have fun playing Cream or Cuphead hell I’d even play Mugman and he’s one of my worst characters. I’m not against ever playing executioner but I’d like to enjoy both roles not confined to one because no one is willing to play something other than survivor.

So PLEASE if you are someone who likes playing survivor at least ATTEMPT to play executioner. I get it that if the team’s good you might get bullied. But avoiding the role and making people have to wait isnt the answer. Practice can really help and make you beat survivors more.

Overall, please try both sides and practice instead of holding up the server.

So earlier I hopped on the game to have some fun and continue the grind to level 50 Vanilla along with getting some of my less used characters up. Today was vanilla with a mix of Cuphead who I’ve been getting a bit better at (still not good but I’m landing some decent dash hits and I’ve been getting some parry’s off…I’m also a menace as Cuphead minion)

Anyways there was this toxic Sans main in my lobby who specifically had a problem with me because…get this…I like to play Yuri when executioner! He would specifically harass and bully me in chat if I didn’t server wipe as Yuri, refuse to help me when I was survivor with him and would hardcore target me when he was executioner because and I quote “You play Yuri”.

Another guy defended me and even played Yuri to troll the guy. Mind you the sans player was the same one to say “Playing Yuri -100 credit”

His argument was “Yuri is OP and he respected Chara and Vortex players but not Yuri players”. Can Yuri be strong? Yes, however I feel like OP is a stretch. Yuri to me is the rush down character that you just….keep away from the team. Her only mobility is rush which is locked in a straight line, knife throw can be dodged if you move unpredictably and the victim status is only active if you miss eyes.

I reported the guy for bullying and logged off to take a break (didn’t tell them I reported them) but that made me wonder….what is the general opinion on Yuri’s state? Is she OP?