How to get a perfect gimbal orbit?

I’ve been gimbaling since the original Ronin and it shames me to admit but for the life of me I’ve never been able to get an orbit where the gimbal doesn’t deviate. Even with RavenEye.

Can anyone claim to have mastered it and what is the secret sauce? Talking DJI here.

And please can we avoid “get good bruh” comments.

Much appreciated

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u/ZeyusFilm — 1 day ago

Recording Live Bands - How to do it 'properly'?

Alright,

So we all had a good collective moan about how taking audio from front of house, more often than not, is absolutely suck, for various reasons. A very fruitful discussion.

Many of you suggested that a much better way of approaching it would be to either a.) get a multitrack from the desk or b.) set up your own recording. Now, for much of my work there is virtually zero opportunity for option a simply because there is never the time nor willingness for that level of collaboration, so I'm wondering, from the perspective of a low-life solo videographer on a budget and limited set-up time, how would you do this and what gear? Say for a standard rock band.

Just to throw my thoughts in the pot...

  • 32-bit float is a good idea, as then you have the flexibility/fail safe
  • Strap Rode Wireless Pros to the vocal mics?
  • Zoom H series on other instruments and one for the room? But would you mic the instrument or be really ghetto and mic the monitor?

As an aside, I've filmed a fair bit of comedy and learned the thing about micing the crowd with shotguns pointing into them on either side to catch the laughs. So I get how this works.

But if anyone knows of a good affordable mic/solution/strategy, I'd be interested to hear it.

Cheers

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u/ZeyusFilm — 7 days ago

Live Music Shooters - How many times you been screwed by the sound team?

I've been filming live music gigs for years now. In fact that's where I started out as a volunteer for Sofar Sounds. Them early gigs, small team or none at all, with a little mixing desk recording to the XLR of my Sony HXR camcorder (❤️) or some guy recording to his laptop. Wasn't bad. I even did live sound and multi-track recording on top of filming at some gigs, and I got it to work

Then I got to filming on bigger stages and bigger venues and I swear to God... You know those mixing desks where you can plug in a USB and record to that? Sounds simple don't it? Every single time it's a fuck up. First one the audio started skipping??? Next one the mix was almost entirely vocals and I did one a month back that I'm getting to editing now, and for one band they recorded silence and for another forgot to hit record till after the song! And then on another stage, the dude was running me totally overblown, distorted audio. Praise be, 32-bit float to the rescue on that one, however.

What pisses me off is, I'm there with a selection of field recorders. All I need is a jack. And every time they swear the USB thing will work fine, and it hasn't once. I break my ass doing what I do. By the end of the day I'm sweating, exhausted and brain dead, but I work fuckin hard to get the best result. Meanwhile, these laughing, joking numbnuts. So unprofessional.

I am never ever ever trusting the sound team again. In future I want a recording to my devices and I want to hear it.

Nothing worse than people who make false promises and then don't own up when they screw it. I checked with them was it ok multiple times. Like if they'd have said I could have tried to get another song shot but as it stands I've lost 2 or the 8 acts I shot through no fault of my own. Luckily for me I've been through this and make a big point in contracts that if they fail to provide me with a usable recording despite my best efforts then it's their fault.

But still.. pissed off.

You ever had this?

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u/ZeyusFilm — 9 days ago

Does anyone one rate gyro data vs ordinary stabilisation?

Gimbals… you still get shakes. Unless I can totally avoid it I throw on a bit of standard FCP stabilisation, but it can turn a shot to jelly in which case I’ll ditch it.

Is that gyro data stabilisation way better? I’m pretty sure the A7Siii can do it. Only thing - it recommends turning of your IBIS. Is that so? Bit risky because then I’m at the mercy of the gyro stabilisation working out.

Any opinions?

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u/ZeyusFilm — 9 days ago

The Begin Again video is amazing

I swear, Purity Ring are up there with someone like Banks in being so massively underrated. What take an act to the next level is artistry and creativity. Michael Jackson wouldn’t have hit the peak he did if he was just a singer. Kanye wouldn’t be this unstoppable force purely on the strength of his music.

Purity Ring have really put in the work. Their videos are so good, but since discovering ‘Begin Again’ last week, man that video is incredible. Any thoughts on what it’s about? Clearly themes of life, death and rebirth but very surreal and abstract.

I love videos like this. They’re what made me become a videographer. Because, it looks stunning and has all the presence of a movie in how it spikes your imagination, but all contained in this three minutes of wonder.

Side note, how much does Megan James look like Rachel from Blade Runner. She’s good in this

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u/ZeyusFilm — 12 days ago

Returning Fan - What are the top 5 (or so) tracks?

I've been listening to Fineshrine for years. Always loved that track, but then never followed it up. Then I saw they were playing in London...

Now years and years ago they were just like most other niche electronic acts and the live gig never really met the level of the record. So I'm expecting a crowd of 100 people in some backroom...

I get's to Outernet, venue is super high spec, and then I see they have a bunch of what I thought was fans of stage to blow cold air at the crowd given its the middle of a hot summer. Then they come on stage, the fans are still there, and they start performing 'Many Lives', and when the crowd discoverd they werent fans but rather hologram generators, the whole crowd (of about 1000 people), were like "woah!". Honestly one of the best gigs I've ever been to. Loved every second of it. Mind blown.

So, I want to do some catching up but they've done a lot of work. What are 5 tracks that I really need to hear. Some favourites right now are 'Begin Again', 'Many Lives', 'Lemonlime' and 'Water Song'... What am I missing?

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u/ZeyusFilm — 13 days ago

Contact noise & shotgun mics

Has anyone ever figured this out?

Currently I use a Sony ECM on the camera and previously I used Rode VideoMics on my gimbal arm, and either/or, the audio always suffers from every single move/bump/jolt etc..

Now obviously this is production/scratch audio, and if I wanted it clean and clear I’d do something else, but none the less, has anyone every figured out how to use one of these without it picking up every facet of the cameras physical existence.

Side note - it baffles me how shit £3000 cameras are at recording clean sound and shake free video when a phone for a few hundred bucks does it everytime, no problem

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u/ZeyusFilm — 21 days ago

Do you set light temp to the scene?

Hello,

Even after many years in the game my lighting is still sub-par. What can I say, I didn’t go to film school and lights are expensive. But I do my best.

Question about temperature. So for interviews and podcasts, I’ve found, just to keep things easy I…

- set all the lights to 5500k
- set all the camera to 5500k
- film a frame of calibrite

This seems to be working fine but it ain’t right is it? Because I saw a thing that says you shouldn’t shoot daylight temp in a sunset environment, and I get that. It’s all about context.

Is this the case and if so, might it be a good strategy to use a white card reference and capture a custom WB from the camera and the set the lights to that temp?

I know nothing

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u/ZeyusFilm — 23 days ago

Can you help me remake this scribble style animation?

Hello,

I've done a couple of things in motion and a little training, but, for as simple as it is, I'm struggling to remake this animation for a project...

https://youtu.be/EUVTSpK-GJo

I know exactly what I need, but struggling with actually doing it. It involves...

  1. getting a really nice looking graph paper background texture
  2. getting that pencil shading style. I've tried with photoshop but nothing works.
  3. getting the animation where the words are drawn on. I figured out how to do draw on a mask with a brush, but I can only do that for one letter as I don't see how you can combine draw-ons into one thing
  4. The 3D camera stuff I think I can figure out as I've done stuff like that before

If anyone wants to help me through it, I'd be happy to sling you a couple bucks

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u/ZeyusFilm — 29 days ago

What are goals?

Everyone always talks about goals? I don’t get it. The goal is to make all the money. Why would you set a limit?

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u/ZeyusFilm — 1 month ago

Gimbal + Monitor Bump Corrupted Video

Has anyone had any experience of this? It’s happened to me a couple of times now.

It involves a DJI RS2, a Sony A7S3 and a Ninja V.

First time I bumped the camera a little bit with my hand as I reached for the zoom/focus and it cut out, then came back on with that screen saying some data might be damaged and click to recover etc..

Then today, I was using the same setup with the addition of the focus motor. First up, when I’d place it down, not even hard, the ninja would momentarily lose input. Then, I took a magnetic filter on and off and the ninja lost connection and the camera cut out. Then I was using the focus motor and it bumped at the zoom limit and it all cut out and I got the damaged/recover screen.

I have been using it all solidly for 3-6 hours per day, but I’m handling it with all the care anyone would normally. This is really troubling me as I don’t want to corrupt a whole card.

Any idea what’s happening and what is the problematic component?

Thanks

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u/ZeyusFilm — 2 months ago

So I bought these lights as an upgrade to my lighty game. Previously I was using standard shitty Neweer LED panels so these were a major step up.

In small studio conditions they are good enough. But I find once you start adding diffusion and honeycomb you pretty quickly hit the limit where they’re on the edge of decent exposure.

I also use them as stage lights. Now they’ve done an okay job but again, I slip in a little diffusion and they have barely any throw. Also I had a thing the other day where I was trying to light a stage and there was daylight outside and they were barely doing anything.

They’re good, well made lights and decent for the price but I need a bit more. However, I find the process of buying lights very hard to navigate as I’m not a lighty man. What might be my next step up?

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u/ZeyusFilm — 2 months ago

I wanted a better tripod than my aluminium Manfrottos so I bought this a couple years back. Heavy duty it says. Each leg has the 4 struts etc..

This thing sucks. The main issue is when fully extended it collapses if you lean on it or anything. The clips fail to hold it solid. I never ever had that problem before with any tripod.

And then it’s got that adjustable bowl under the head. That sucks too. All stiff and impossible to work with.

Piece’a’shit

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u/ZeyusFilm — 2 months ago

I just tried to use CapCup again and I want to rip my eye out....

No. Just no. There must be another way. Surely theres a plugin for FCP to do caps?

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u/ZeyusFilm — 2 months ago