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This isn't based on her knowledge, Realistically, she shouldn't know whether many of these people are good candidates or not, or who is suspicious or not.

Papyrus is kind of a joke, but honestly, maybe he's okay depending on his relationship with Gaster? The rest is serious though.

Mettaton would be in the same tier as Napstablook if they were both on the list

Based on my reasoning, ghosts have a certain advantage in being invincible, and Mettaton specifically could fuse with Tenna, which I think would make Tenna and Mettaton invincible... probably

Furthermore, since Mew Mew already knows about the Dark World, she could convince Napstablook and Mettaton to participate or help. Napstablook is a police officer, so it's his job, and besides, the knight probably would have trouble capturing ghosts.

Alphys is unpredictable because, of all the adults, she's the one I'm most certain doesn't know anything, wouldn't get into a silly conflict, and would certainly help if asked. Besides, she's intelligent. The problem is that she's somewhat defenseless and could get too caught up in the fantasy, and end up ruining everything.

Toriel would be helpful if she weren't probably against Kris and Susie participating in this adventure in the first place; she's probably strong, but we see with Asgore that letting your parents get involved isn't a good idea.

If you want to know the reasoning behind other characters, you can ask.

I've thought a lot about the Rudy Knight theory, and after, my current take is something more in between. I think he knows and might be involved in some way, but he's not Knight.

To begin with, why would Rudy know about the conspiracy?

To begin with, Rudy would be willing to help his daughter in any way he could, he even says so himself in relation to Noelle, so this would involve Dess.

But what gets me is Rudy's line in Weird Route, he says how Holidays are full of surprises and when Susie asks if they're good, he says "it depends on the holiday." Now let's think about this.

Many people went to the Knight's angle, but imagine he's not the Knight, okay? So think about it this way, if he knows that some holidays don't have good surprises, wouldn't that indicate that he knows what those surprises are in the first place? Like, Carol's involvement in the conspiracy or even Dess's distorted status (if you think she's the Knight), that could even involve Noelle, but I doubt Rudy knows that, the phrase "it depends on the holiday" indicates that some of them have some nice surprises to hide in his vision

Another thing I find strange is that Kris deletes the calls, which I think is a strange decision, not on Kris's part because you understand why they would do that, but rather in Toby's writing, because the game already leads you to believe that Carol is the one calling in the normal route and in the weird route we literally hear her voice. Toby knows that players will figure this out by watching on YouTube. Undertale acknowledges in the genocide route that you might be watching the route, so my question is... Why would he choose to hide who Kris called? Just to characterize Kris?

Calling Dess doesn't make much sense either, since it's very strange to think that Dess has a working phone lol and where would they call Dess? If she's the knight, then she would spend most of her time in the shelter, a dark world, a place where it's impossible to use a phone, it would be impossible to call her. Of course, maybe Dess could have called the church, since she would create the dark fountain there, but it's still strange and risky.

But what if it's Rudy? It makes more sense because Toby decided to hide the identity of the person Kris called. Imagine if Rudy and Carol's names appeared in the phone list.

If you stop to think about how Rudy behaves, he lies about Kris coming to the hospital, he makes it seem like Kris has to be obligated to see his mother and that they don't come to the hospital very often, but in the weird route, in Noelle's thoughts, she reveals that Kris keeps going to the hospital and the dialogue options are "to see you" or "to see your father"

If we believe that the dialogue options are things Kris thinks about responding to, then this has interesting implications. It indicates that Kris comes to the hospital to see the two of them, but Rudy acts as if it's not something natural for Kris. You could say it's because of the visit in chapter 1, but the dialogue doesn't change if you don't visit Rudy in chapter 1.

So why would Rudy pretend Kris doesn't go to the hospital regularly if it's just Kris and him in the room? Unless he knows there's someone else in the room besides Kris?

Not only that, but Rudy acts strangely in church; when Toriel talks about Asgore's obsession with discovering the Dark World and who's responsible for Dess's case, he clearly plays dumb and tries to change the subject, only for Toriel to drop the topic and throw juice at him.

Not only that, but if we ask Rudy about the key, he plays dumb again, talking about an unrelated subject.

Finally, in Carol and Rudy's room, there's literally a board that we know is related to the case. It's literally impossible that Rudy doesn't know about or isn't involved in Asgore and Carol's investigation; it's literally in his room too. You'd think that if he wasn't involved and Carol didn't want him to know, she'd put it in places like the basement.

So with all that said, Rudy wouldn't be the knight? Well... I don't think so

At least that's what I think; it's completely acceptable to believe that, since there's definitely evidence, but I personally don't, I think Dess Knight is more believable right now, but honestly I'm not really going to try to convince you guys that Rudy isn't the knight, because he very well could be.

Instead, let's assume he's not the knight. What does that tell us about his role in the plan and the story?

I don't think he knows little, because besides living with Carol, he would notice if something was wrong. I imagine he would want to find Dess as much as Carol does (seeing how he avoids the subject of the dark world, he doesn't want to talk about it).

So I imagine he knows as much as Carol, or at most a little less, seeing as Kris frequently visits the hospital. I imagine he relays some of the instructions Carol gives him; he might be a messenger between Kris and Carol, since Carol could be a little difficult to communicate with sometimes (because of work).

Furthermore, this would serve as a great disguise, as it would seem natural for Kris to visit him without anyone finding it strange.

I theorize that he's going to be a surprise antagonist in chapter 6; he'll probably get there one way or another, given that chapter 5 is the first time we have a mandatory scene involving him falling down the stairs. Noelle will find out about the dark world, and it's safe to assume she'll want to cure her father.

Carol herself might be interested in opening a dark world for Rudy, but regardless, I imagine they'll both go to the dark world.

And where does this lead us? Simple, my personal theory is that this will lead to Carol and Rudy having a boss battle in this chapter, not one or the other, but both at the same time.

I admit, I'm only saying this because I think the idea is really cool and nothing more than that, and I wanted to develop a whole scenario because of it.

To begin with, I think they would both use the katana, because we actually know that the Holidays' house (one of the possible candidates for the next Dark World) has *two* katanas. Noelle specifies that the katana in the kitchen belongs to Carol, but what about the katana in their bedroom? And what if that specific katana belongs to Rudy?

(Before you ask, no, the katana isn't made of the same material as the knight's sword, because Asgore himself has the black shards and has access to their room, yet he doesn't suspect Carol or Rudy. He even tells Kris that they should tell Carol everything. Asgore may love Rudy and Carol, but he's not stupid enough to miss an obvious similarity like that.)

Furthermore, Carol and Rudy aren't important characters in Undertale, and they don't have boss battles either. One thing you can notice about how Toby writes Deltarune is that he tries not to give much screen time to Undertale characters (even though some of them remain important). That's why Undyne only appears at the end of chapter 3, Toriel sleeps throughout the entire Dark World, Asgore only appears sporadically in chapter 5, etc. In comparison, he usually gives things to Deltarune characters like Berdly, who literally has a boss battle.

Often, the importance translates to you fighting with the characters in question, at least that's how Toby does it (okay, Alphys doesn't have a boss battle, but technically it happens in the fight against Asriel, even if only for 3 turns, and it's more of an exception than the rule).

My idea is that Rudy and Carol will have a boss battle when the Fun Gang directly opposes the plan, perhaps something involving the Shelter code or sealing the Dark World (especially the former). My idea is that we'll face them both at the same time, where they would function as opposites of each other, with Rudy having fire attacks and attacking faster, while Carol would have ice attacks and slower but decisive attacks.

Furthermore, I believe that the revelation that Rudy is involved in this conspiracy will be a revelation that the chapter will delay, as it would be unexpected for most players.

And that's it! Yes, I don't have much more to say or predict beyond that; this whole post is mostly about this boss battle that I came up with in my head, because I thought it was really cool and wanted to share it.

There are other angles you can go from Rudy being involved, other than him being the horseman; he could be a reluctant participant, clearly knowing it's wrong, but doing it anyway (similar to Kris)

Or he'll just be unconscious for the whole chapter, on the verge of death, and maybe we won't even discover his alliance through him, but rather through Carol.

Anyway, if Rudy is involved in the conspiracy but isn't the Horseman, what role do you think he'll have?

He must have laughed a lot writing that line for Ice Wolf lol

Just for some additional context, Ice Wolf is literally in the same place where the Asgore scene in the church takes place; not only that, but he's near flowers and on the path where you absolutely have to at least see him (since you need to get to Noelle's house and the school to continue the chapter). Everything is tempting you to stop and talk to him.

When you talk to him, he calls Asgore "Flower Man," and later in the chapter you discover the panel talking about the Flower Man (who is called boss 3 in the files).

The prophecy actually speaks of the flower in Asgore's hands and not of Asgore himself, but Ice Wolf's statement was used as definitive evidence that he was actually talking about Asgore (I know this because I believed in the Flower Man theory and was always contradicted by Ice Wolf's dialogue).

When you think about it, it was probably a very intentional misleading move on Toby's part, lol. I imagine he added that dialogue later when he decided to release chapter 5 separately from 3 & 4 (after all, there's no point in misleading something you're going to play right after). That clever dog must have laughed a lot.

And those bosses are: Seam and Ramb

This is not a joke or a baseless post; I have concrete proof that these two will be the next super bosses/secret bosses we'll face.

To begin with, in the Spamton sweeptakes, if I'm not mistaken, Spamton answered some questions, including one about elements.

It's fair to say that everyone he mentioned is a super boss/secret boss that we'll face in the game, since Spamton itself is a secret boss, just as those elements are used by super bosses: Knight uses Dark/Star and Mew Mew uses Puppet/Cat (another interesting thing is that these two have ways to reduce the damage of their attacks with defensive items).

Interestingly, he mentions elements we haven't seen yet: Death/Scythe and Thunder/Light, giving us a good basis for predicting the next superbosses.

Seam - Death/Scythe:

Starting in chapter 5, Seam has been collecting the shadow crystals for us from the beginning and helping us with the shadow crystal quest. He says he has something very, very interesting planned for them (not at all suspicious), something they think you'll find it quite entertaining

Furthermore, in the game's code (and thanks to Malius), we discovered that there is a key item called "Purecrystal," where the description says it was purified by the cat. This must be what Seam wants to do with the crystals; they want to purify them. This means two things: the crystal quest is not over yet and will only end when we give them the last crystal, and they will probably be the final opponent in this quest.

Not only that, but throughout the entire game, Toby hypes up Seam's strength, starting in chapter 5 in their normal dialogue, where they talk about how the Darkners from chapter 4 couldn't stand up to their power and that you might be able to recruit stronger Darkners, implying that they are stronger than everyone you recruited at that point.

This includes darkeners like Miss Mizzle, which has 28 ATK and 28 DEF, or even Jackenstein

They also say that Jevil is the only one who could compete with the games they used to play; we discover when we fight Jevil that what he considers a game is literally a battle to the death (the curious thing is that on Jevil's unused recruitment page, he actually seems weaker than Miss Mizzle, this perhaps indicates that he held back against the Fun Gang in Chapter 1....)

It would be strange to have all this hype about their strength and threat if we're not going to face Seam at all in the game. Think about Sans and how the game hypes up how threatening he is in every route, before we even face him in the genocide route. Even in chapter 5, Toby made an effort to remind us that Seam (and Jevil) are strong.

But how would Seam gain the "Scythe" element? We can assume the Death element already comes from Seam, but where would "Scythe" come from? Simple, it would come from Jevil.

Seam's common weapon, as we saw in the concept art, is a staff, but that doesn't mean he'll use it. Remember that Jevil can literally transform into a Scythe (Devilsknkfe), and we're literally carrying Jevil in our pocket (even Jevilstail has evidence that he actually transformed into the tail as well, since in the battle against Tenna, if we bet, the bet value increases and we can hear his laughter during the act, indicating that he is present and it's an act exclusive to this item).

We also know that Devilsknife gives a good boost to attack and magic, which is Seam's specialty. My prediction is simple: Seam won't give up the PureCrystal for free, whether because they want the crystal for themselves, or because they want to see if we deserve it, or perhaps just for fun. They will battle us, and at the beginning of the battle, they will call for Jevil's help, who will accept and transform into Devilsknife for them to use as a weapon

Finally, I'd like to point out that Seam said we'd find what they were going to do "fun," and I wanted to remind them that for them and Jevil, their games and fun are literally a battle to the death (as I proved here), that they enjoy a challenge, and that everything we're doing collecting the crystals is primarily for fun, so wouldn't it make sense to end this quest with a superboss who started it in the first place?

(Despite this whole post arguing for Seam, I actually think there are other superbosses that fit Seam's elements, like Jevil, who could have a transformation that changes his natural elements, or Eram, who is mysterious enough to fit... There's also Papyrus, making a more direct allusion to death, but that's just a joke of mine.)

I imagine that, based on Spamton's description of the superboss with Death/Scythe (they talk about the boss as if it's going to be super difficult), Seam will have an attack that automatically kills one party member, the Devilsknife turns red in the fight against Jevil, and perhaps with Seam this will have overwhelming power. I don't think there will be a specific soul mode.

Regarding the reward for this fight, besides the pure crystal, it's difficult to say what it would be, but seeing that Noelle will be entering this chapter, perhaps it's something for her? In the game files, there's a weapon for her that gives 16 attack and 2 magic, and this weapon seems to be the opposite of the Thornring. Maybe we'll get that as a bonus?

Ramb - Thunder/Light:

Ramb has less evidence for Seam, but Toby clearly has something planned for him. Many people have noticed that he has many connections to the secret bosses. Not only that, but he is constantly ignored, even in terms of merchandise. He doesn't even go to Castle Town; in every route, he mysteriously disappears and is never mentioned.

To begin with, I don't think he'll give any crystals; it seems he'll give a completely different reward to the Fun Gang, which is difficult to predict, but the elements match. Werewire is of the "Elec" element, and its evolution is of the Elec/Fight element, so it would make sense that a controlled or evolved Ramb would be of the Thunder/Light or Elec/Holy element.

Furthermore, there's an item in the game files from chapter 2 called "SkyMantle" that provides protection against \*Elec/Holy\*, and it's curious how similar it is to the Shadow Mantle, an item Ramb is heavily involved in obtaining in chapter 3. It wouldn't make sense to use it against him in chapter 7 (or perhaps chapter 6, if Toby decides that chapter will have two super bosses; he's done this before with chapter 3).

Regarding the reason for the battle, I think it's more likely that Ramb is being controlled than that he's intentionally fighting Kris. It seems out of character for him to do something against them. As for the reward, I think maybe he'll hand over Kris's horns? It's an item heavily tied to Kris's childhood and past, which would make sense, and there's a certain buildup with this item completely gone. I imagine that if we equipped this item on Kris, it might allow them to use magic? I don't know.

Another curious thing is that this proves what I said before: all the elements Spamton mentioned about the secret bosses are elements where you have an item to reduce the damage taken: Shadow Mantle and Knight, Mew Mew and Dealmaker/Mannequin and Ramb/SkyMantle.... So what item would we have to defend against Seam? I imagine something that prevents us from dying instantly?

And even though Ramb doesn't give us a crystal, that doesn't stop him from becoming a super boss and giving us something completely different; we have an example of this with Eram (and Mike Trio if you consider them).

(I added an extra image at the end that compiles more evidence for Ramb's secret boss)

Finally, I think I've made a convincing argument for why these two would be the next secret bosses/super bosses, what do you think? It makes sense, right? This could be totally wrong, since it's very difficult to predict Toby, but I think it's a safe bet at least lol

Is that why he became food????? 😭😭😭😭

I compiled all the evidence that Ralsei held back and came to the conclusion that he gave himself a fake stats

We know that he can literally hide magic from us, to the point of not even showing it, whether it's "fireshock" or "revivesong" (the latter only becomes available from the titan fight onwards).

We know he has extensive knowledge of menus, maybe he can add options too (like turning off voice clips, maybe Flowery did the same with turning off Ralsei's voice, although that's just speculation).

He literally completed a puzzle and threw blocks in 4 different directions with a single kick, Flowery literally does something similar afterwards with his skateboard, something that Ralsei also claims to be able to do (incidentally, Ralsei previously literally passed through the spikes in the same way that Noelle passes through the lake with Kris).

Ralsei says he could kill Flowery in an instant, the same guy who held the knight for a while before dying.

Ralsei destroys Gerson's statue with 3 blows.

Ralsei claims he could have cleared the entire dark world of the church on his own.

This is something people doubted had a deeper meaning, but now that we know more... Ralsei says after we defeat the knight that if he's injured like that, then Susie would be too... And then he tells you to go after Susie.

Wouldn't that imply that Ralsei is more resilient than Susie? He almost seems to position himself as stronger than her.

And most importantly, when Ralsei questions Flowery about why he put 999 in everything, Flowery replies "heh, you'd be an expert, Raly" in what? Ralsei never puts "9" in everything, unless he's talking about specific "fake" stats.

What if the stats we're seeing throughout the game are fake? Ralsei has shown he's capable of hiding spells from you, but what if he's also capable of hiding his attack, defense, and HP? Literally lowering them?

It's not like it's impossible; Papyrus did it in Undertale, and nothing would stop Ralsei from doing the same.

And with each chapter, he unleashes more of his power. Instead of progressing naturally like the Lightners, he's a main boss Darkner, so it doesn't make sense to think he'd be weak, right?

The only argument against him giving fake stats is that the knight was shown to be able to ignore fake stats, but it's implied that the knight is strong enough to actually hurt Ralsei in the first place, and besides, perhaps the knight intentionally ignored negating Ralsei's fake stats, since it's not like he was using them to become stronger.

Regarding why he doesn't use it, I don't know the reason, but I suppose it might be to somehow go against the prophecy, or to avoid making Kris and Susie dependent on him, or because he doesn't want to accidentally kill darkners (we saw with Noelle that this is possible).

I compiled all the evidence that Ralsei held back and came to the conclusion that he gave himself a fake stats

We know that he can literally hide magic from us, to the point of not even showing it, whether it's "fireshock" or "revivesong" (the latter only becomes available from the titan fight onwards).

We know he has extensive knowledge of menus, maybe he can add options too (like turning off voice clips, maybe Flowery did the same with turning off Ralsei's voice, although that's just speculation).

He literally completed a puzzle and threw blocks in 4 different directions with a single kick, Flowery literally does something similar afterwards with his skateboard, something that Ralsei also claims to be able to do (incidentally, Ralsei previously literally passed through the spikes in the same way that Noelle passes through the lake with Kris).

Ralsei says he could kill Flowery in an instant, the same guy who held the knight for a while before dying.

Ralsei destroys Gerson's statue with 3 blows.

Ralsei claims he could have cleared the entire dark world of the church on his own.

This is something people doubted had a deeper meaning, but now that we know more... Ralsei says after we defeat the knight that if he's injured like that, then Susie would be too... And then he tells you to go after Susie.

Wouldn't that imply that Ralsei is more resilient than Susie? He almost seems to position himself as stronger than her.

And most importantly, when Ralsei questions Flowery about why he put 999 in everything, Flowery replies "heh, you'd be an expert, Raly" in what? Ralsei never puts "9" in everything, unless he's talking about specific "fake" stats.

What if the stats we're seeing throughout the game are fake? Ralsei has shown he's capable of hiding spells from you, but what if he's also capable of hiding his attack, defense, and HP? Literally lowering them?

It's not like it's impossible; Papyrus did it in Undertale, and nothing would stop Ralsei from doing the same.

And with each chapter, he unleashes more of his power. Instead of progressing naturally like the Lightners, he's a main boss Darkner, so it doesn't make sense to think he'd be weak, right?

The only argument against him giving fake stats is that the knight was shown to be able to ignore fake stats, but it's implied that the knight is strong enough to actually hurt Ralsei in the first place, and besides, perhaps the knight intentionally ignored negating Ralsei's fake stats, since it's not like he was using them to become stronger.

Regarding why he doesn't use it, I don't know the reason, but I suppose it might be to somehow go against the prophecy, or to avoid making Kris and Susie dependent on him, or because he doesn't want to accidentally kill darkners (we saw with Noelle that this is possible).

There is evidence that Jevil was stronger than he appears and that he actually held his own against us.

In a dialogue with Seam in chapter 5 where you haven't recruited anyone

Seam implied that they would defeat all the Darkners you recruited in Chapter 4, including Miss Mizzle and Jackenstein (Miss Mizzle has 28 attack and 28 defense; also, based on their dialogue, they are probably referring to Darkners from previous chapters like Tenna and Queen.)

At the same time, he implied that Jevil was the only one who could play against them, indicating that they have similar power levels

This suggests that Jevil didn't actually fight at full power against Fun Gang; after all, it was just a game to him and what would be the fun in a game where he kills his enemies with one hit?

I've seen many people surprised by Ralsei's behavior in chapter 5, and I'd like to point out that much of it didn't come out of nowhere. He's always been somewhat insensitive (even if unintentionally), whether through projection or ignorance. He also doesn't repress negative feelings as much as he used to (like anger), so this is more evident now.

I compiled some examples of this happening; it's not that bad (heck, I don't think his behavior in chapter 5 is that bad; you can see where it comes from and why he acts that way in the first place), but it's something that's always present in him.

Actually, I always thought Susie was more empathetic than Ralsei overall, as strange as that may seem. I don't think Ralsei is very good at comforting people or dealing with problems; years of isolation have made him not so good at communicating with people, which is understandable.

This character flaw makes him quite interesting, although it's not something you easily notice in the four chapters; you usually ignore it, actually.

Recently, someone compiled all of Toby Fox's Kickstarter exclusive posts for Undertale; I'll post the link in the comments later, but there's a lot of interesting information there

Although I've seen some of these around before, I imagine you already knew them in one way or another.

These posts were like beta versions of the Deltarune newsletters, but for Undertale and exclusive to Kickstarters.

Finally, what I discovered reading these posts is that Sans was probably the last boss to be created.

It all begins with update #24 in February 2025.

If you follow the game's development, you'll discover that knows the normal route, the end of the neutral route are already complete.

The true lab was being implemented and the pacifist route was in production.

But in his plans, from scheduling to things to add, Toby mentions: "A certain path =)"

It's quite obvious that it's the genocide route; you discover that the genocide route was created after the other routes in the game.

Then, in update #26 on April 30, 2015, the game was practically finished; all endings and routes were completed up to the credits, including the pacifist route.

With the exception of 1 ending and *1* boss (and other things too, but they're not important to what I want to say here)

Since we know the ending he's talking about is the genocide route, which boss could he be referring to? There are two bosses exclusive to that route: Undyne the Undying and Sans.

I'm going to say it's probably Sans, since Undyne seems to have already been made or was a last-minute decision (I'm not sure).

I say this because in Update #27 on May 30, 2015, Toby clarifies that the genocide route is almost complete.

With the exception of ONE boss

It makes more sense if he had already started developing the route in the previous update (since it was already implemented in the demo anyway) Because for him to complete the Undyne fight and the rest of the route in 1 month would be very fast (2 months not so much).

The fight Toby is talking about is definitely Sans, because besides the fight obviously having a special care (It's the longest fight in the game and has the most elaborate attack patterns.) in it to be done even after the route where it happens, Toby develops the game in chronological order, following the order in which the game's events occur.

So it's much more likely that he's talking about Sans there and not Undyne.

Undyne was probably already included in the previous update, or was it a decision he made mid-development? I can't say for sure.

But you could say that the Sans fight happened after the rest of the Genocide Route was completed.

Finally, in Update #28 on June 30, 2015, Toby says that the boss has been completed.

This reveals that the Sans fight took 2 months to create (which I don't know if that's normal or not for the standards Toby had with Undertale).

The genocide route was implemented 4 months after its first mention (technically it was always in the game but incomplete, since it was already in the demo).

Sans was also the last boss to be created for the game *before the release* (I say this because Mad Mew Mew was added later)

What explains why the fight is so good is that it was the culmination of everything Toby learned in development into a single fight.

There are other interesting things you can get from these Kickstarter posts; I'll put the link to the post in the comments.

"never-before-seen" It's something constantly repeated in the teasers for this chapter so far, and each time it's repeated, it has something that's been seen before, but it also reminds you of something from the past, something you miss.

Omega Flowey's attack, Jockington growing a beard

Wow, even Addison talks about the "new and original drink" in this video, and you'll see it's a drink called "Pipsi".

That not only references Spamton and Tenna's Pipis, but also the real-world drink called "Pepsi".

I don't know, but I think this chapter has a thing about taking things from the past and transforming them into new but familiar things.

I think we'll see that with the flowers, especially the golden one and Asgore.

That's something I have doubts about, since the name of the motif "freedom" was just a term invented by the fandom.

He didn't even exist from the beginning; I remember he only appeared around chapter 1. Back then, the motif was more related to Jevil or Gaster than to freedom.

It wasn't until Chapter 2, when Spamton had the same theme of freedom and this motif reappeared, that the motif acquired this name.

So that means Toby initially had a different name for that motif (especially since this motif must have been in his head for a while and the fandom only named it that in chapter 2)

And it's not like it's the first time this has happened; the fandom also called Weird Route the Snowgrave Route, Even though the files call it "Weird Route" from the beginning, it only went up to chapter 4, due to the lack of any snowgrave, so using the intended name was more appropriate.

And I wonder... What could it be? It's literally impossible to guess, but do you have any idea? (Is there a chance the motif was named Freedom from the start?)

I don't know what to say about SSS, but when they're not working they're surprisingly chaotic and funny.

To begin with, the Director Wilker is a childish man who punishes employees for trivial matters and wants to participate in all group activities.

His personality greatly elevates the dynamics of the SSS, because they all have to deal with his nonsense, but nobody really wants to and then we see Chadwick even acting out of character, forcing Yuri to deal with him, lol.

Then there are other scenes like "classic Yuri," Chloe all excited to interrogate Loid, them deciding that they're going to join in the fun too, etc...

I know they're supposed to be overbearing cops or something, heck, they're our antagonists, but they're so much fun as a group, every scene with them is comedy gold lol

Everything that boy does is stupid, and I can't help but find it hilarious.

This is the first time I'm playing Code Veronica X, but wow, you can tell he really is a dumb 17-year-old.

To begin with, his complete immaturity in handling the situation, his utter lack of preparation, and his attachment to those submachine guns.

Seriously, after he got that weapon, he didn't use anything else until the end of Claire's campaign. He uses that thing for everything; it's hilarious when you try to get an item from him and The text says "Not useful for submachine gun" LMAOOOO he ignores any resources that aren't for the weapon 😭

Not to mention him wasting ammunition on several occasions, like when Claire tries to figure out what his problem is and he shoots at the ceiling because he can't just say no lol

Like, he's a character who constantly takes Ls, he fills the room with poison gas because he got distracted looking at Claire or when he uses up all his ammunition on his father (This second one is actually more understandable)

I see why a character like him would be annoying or unbearable; nobody likes dumb teenagers, not even the teenagers themselves, but for me, that's precisely why he's so funny.

Of all the characters I've seen so far, he's clearly the least prepared for a zombie apocalypse, perhaps not in training, since he knows how to fly a plane and shoot (Okay, that second one is kind of debatable; his aim is terrible when he tries to shoot Alfred.)But emotionally and mentally he is clearly not prepared to deal with this type of stress.

I understand why his flaws are unbearable for most people, but his flaws make him strangely entertaining to watch.

They have such a special aura in that image, I don't know why they gave that to the mini Huggies lol

I think you could make fan art using the mini Huggies as a base, featuring your favorite characters, and it would look even better.

Why would you think that? They are two characters in completely different situations, and I can argue that Chichi often asserts herself with Goku and Gohan when she has the opportunity

Goku only works because of her, to begin with, lol.

Goku would never betray Chi-Chi the way Nolan did with Debbie, so I don't understand why Chi-Chi should be Debbie; the character is completely different.

I think the comparison would make sense if it were related to Bulma and the Majin Vegeta incident (not that I would honestly agree, the situation and the characters would be different), but the comparison with Chi-Chi is pretty pointless lol

So we have this dialogue where Tien says they probably won't meet again, and then in the Buu saga, we have a repetition of this, with him refusing to participate in the tournament.

But fun fact: in a post-Battle of the Gods interview, Akira casually revealed that Tien has a farm and that Yamaha comes to visit him from time to time.

Which is pretty funny, because we have Tien being extremely anti-social, but then Yamcha comes along barging into his house to help on the farm and he's just like, "Okay, whatever then, this is my life."

Many people joke about how Z-fighters aren't such great friends, but apparently Tien and Yamcha are friends.