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Hi,

I have a question about the focus 10 state.
I’m directing this question specifically to people with hyperphantasia who have experiences similar to mine and might therefore be able to explain some of the finer nuances involved.

I’ve been lucid dreaming for over 40 years, so I’ve observed my own process of falling asleep many times. I have hyperphantasia, so even if I close my eyes right now, after a short while I’ll start seeing the same kind of imagery that appears during the process of falling asleep - something that could be described as hypnagogia.

Because of this, I also find it extremely easy to ignore my body. What I mean is that I’m usually so immersed in my mind that I don’t notice signals coming from my body until I stop whatever I’m doing or deliberately turn my attention toward them. When falling asleep, I practically never experience hypnic jerks, itching, or the urge to change position. My body relaxes almost immediately. I fall asleep very quickly -the hypnagogia simply sweeps me away, and suddenly I’m asleep.

If I want to enter a dream consciously, I first need to sleep through the first few hours of the night. Only then do I use a method of letting my awareness sway along with the hypnagogia -the waves of hypnagogic imagery rise and fall in intensity, and my awareness drifts with them. This back and forth movement gradually becomes denser and more immersive, until at some point the hypnagogic imagery becomes spatial and threedimensional. Then I simply get out of bed and step into a dream location that has formed out of one of those hypnagogic scenes, and that is how I begin the whole cycle of lucid dreaming.

The second state I know very well is meditation. When I meditate, I usually need around 30 minutes to reach a state of inner silence, where I’m simply present and there is no longer this constant stream of hypnagogic imagery. I can remain in that state for a long time, but I can still feel my body normally, and I can move a leg or an arm without disrupting the state.

Coming back to focus 10 -when I listen to the tape and go through all the steps in sequence, I have to admit that I basically feel the way I normally do. It’s easy for me to visualize everything, and it’s easy for me to let go of my attention to bodily sensations, so I keep wondering whether I’m actually entering the state described as focus 10 at all.

This question is specifically for people with hyperphantasia who practice the gateway, because I think only people with that kind of experience will really understand what I mean and what sort of nuances I’m trying to distinguish here.

The only state of bodily relaxation that would feel distinctly deeper to me would be sleep paralysis, but I’ve experienced that only a handful of times in my life, and each time I could break out of it quite easily whenever I wanted to.

Hi,

I recently came across Bashar, and virtually everything I have heard so far resonates with me. Among other things, this is because it aligns with my own observations and conclusions.For example, the fact that time does not exist and that we are actually constantly slipping from one timeline to another - I experienced this as a child, although I misunderstood it at the time, and it took me a long time to reach practically the same conclusion as Bashar.

I have been lucid dreaming since childhood, and throughout my life I have experienced a great number of strange phenomena - you could say that I am an experiencer. I am an artist and I constantly have countless ideas. I always feel pulled towards creating something new. I usually draw my dream experiences.

For most of my life, I followed my sense of where this 'pull' was leading me. Thanks to years of lucid dreaming, I felt that this was the right way to proceed. In the background of all this, I was ill, and for over a decade my life revolved around doctors and laboratories. I tried to heal myself and to sense, during dreams and meditation, what the cause was - unfortunately, without success. During the first few years, I was certain that I would solve it soon and that I would soon be healthy. That did not happen, and the doctors still failed to find the correct diagnosis.

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Eventually, I became so severely ill that for several years I experienced overwhelming pain that prevented me from sleeping. It broke me psychologically. I suffered terribly and felt increasingly powerless because I was not receiving proper help, even though I was spending everything I earned on doctors, diagnostic tests, dietitians, physiotherapists, etc.

One day, I not only accidentally managed to cure the infection that was causing those symptoms, but also to diagnose the illness that had contributed to the infection in the first place. I was incredibly happy and underwent surgery. Everything was supposed to be great - yet a few months after the operation, the same symptoms and the same pain returned, even though I am 100% certain that I no longer have that infection. Once again, the doctors are at a loss and do not know what is wrong with me, despite countless tests and appointments with many specialists.

I cannot count how many times I have tried to obtain any information about this from my spirit guides. Why am I ill, what is the cause, what should I do, how can I heal myself? And still, nothing - sometimes I manage to suppress the pain for a while, and then a few days later everything returns.

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And this is what I do not understand - I allow myself to be guided by my Higher Self, I meditate, I take care of myself, and I fulfil myself creatively as much as I am able to. During the day, I can still somehow drown out the symptoms by keeping myself occupied, but practically every night the pain wakes me up and prevents me from sleeping, and I do not know what to do. Whenever I try to focus on something else, it either wakes me up even more, or when I begin to drift off, intrusive thoughts start flowing in - or rather, a kind of sensation similar to what happens during a fever, when you experience intrusive sensations of something drilling, tightening, turning, or making obsessive movements, even though I am not moving.

The pain I experience is like having the pulp of a tooth drilled without anaesthesia. It is not merely pain - it is an extremely powerful signal screaming that I have to react right now, that I have to do something right now.

I think it would be much easier for me if I knew the cause and the meaning of this experience. And this brings me back to lucid dreams - according to Bashar, it is possible to access the template of physical reality through them, examine what is recorded there, and theoretically change some of it. Does anyone know how to do this in practice? Because I have not managed to reach anything like that.

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Finally, I would like to add that I asked myself the question recommended by Bashar about the cause and meaning of this experience. But the honest answer I arrived at sounds more or less like this: everything I learned through this pain and illness, I could also have learned without them, in the same way people normally learn and develop throughout their lives. The only unique things I received from this pain and illness were trauma and fear, which I did not have before.

I often rpeat to myself that I trust my Higher Self, that it is guiding me and knows better what is good for me. However, when I cannot sleep at night, it sounds like I am lying to myself, when in reality all I want to do is cry and ask - why am I receiving no answer about the cause of this experience?

Perhaps people who are more deeply familiar with Bashar's ideas could point me towards something - for example, what to do in practice during lucid dreams. Thank you in advance!

Hi,

This is going to be a longer post, but in short - I had an unpleasant experience involving terrible communication with a healer.

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I’ll say at the beginning that my life path has been very twisted, and I myself am an experiencer, I have lucid dreams, I meditate, I sense different things and I see things. However, I have had severe health problems for many years, and neither UFOs, nor spirits, nor my spirit guides have helped me with that. Recently I started to suspect what this may stem from, and I am working on undoing it. Still, my body is in a very poor state -I have gone through an enormous number of infections because of badly treated endometriosis, which led to my whole system becoming destabilized. My immunity is practically nonexistent. It was supposed to get better after the hysterectomy, but it is only worse.

So after over a dozen years of spending almost everything I earned on doctors, I decided to look for a healer. I had already looked years ago, but unfortunately the only one I knew well, he once healed my mother, was no longer healing. And the others I went to were completely off in terms of what they saw in my body, and generally did not help me.

Now, after surgery, I started looking very intensely for someone good in my country. Eventually I found one who not only had hundreds of excellent reviews from people, worked with energy therapy, biotherapy and hypnosis, and had many diplomas in hypnosis and Reiki, but also, when I mentally felt into him as a person, I had the impression that he really had something in him. I wanted to go to him in person, but when I wrote to ask whether a session using a photo was the same as an inperson one, he replied unclearly, although I inferred from the context that it was the same. And with my health, I avoid travelling whenever I can.

So I took the first photo-based session and received a reply saying that the cause of my problems was an undertreated flu, but that I had received a large dose of energy and could now feel worse for a few days, and that the next session would be in a few days. I was surprised and replied that I have endometriosis, a lump in my breast and a lot of post-surgery problems, and that it was because of those post-surgical pain symptoms that I had contacted him, but okay, maybe somewhere in the background of all this I also had the flu. He replied that it was an undertreated flu, and that was it.

At the same time, I started having terrible flu symptoms, really hardcore ones - sinuses, headache, joint pain, my shoulders and neck hurt especially badly, I was losing sensation in my whole arm, and I was shaking for three weeks, during which I had five sessions. Later, some of the symptoms slowly went away. Whenever I asked how much longer this might take, or how often I should take sessions for it to be most effective, I got answers saying that every body is different and that in my case it was still a chronic illness, so it would take time, but that he was sending me large doses of energy. As for the frequency of the sessions, I had to sense it myself.

I decided that okay, maybe contrary to what people describe in the comments on his website, he is not actually good at communication, so I would stop asking. I would just get to ten sessions and see what came of it. I sent him the seventh payment confirmation and a photo, and I got no reply. So I waited a few days and then wrote to ask whether that session had taken place. He replied that yes, and said the same thing as before - that he had sent a large dose of energy, that my body was regenerating, that I was sleeping better and better, and that this was the last session, followed by an ellipsis. However, that “last session....................” could be understood in two ways: either he meant the last session overall and that he would not do any more sessions for me, or he was simply stating that the most recent session had taken place. So I wrote to him asking for clarification, and I also pointed out that I was currently having a strong worsening of symptoms and that because of that it was hard for me to guess, so I asked for clear communication.

He did not reply to that anymore, so I decided I would no longer keep chasing him with questions and requests for sessions.

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For some time now I have been working very intensely on myself, on my energy, and now I do not know whether the fact that I have started feeling mentally better, that I feel I generally have more energy in me -I feel tingling inside my body and in lucid dreams I can feel it clearly- is the result of my own actions, or whether it is the influence of this “healer.” Is there some logic in his behavior that I do not understand? I admit that almost from the beginning of my communication with him, I had the impression that he was trying to brush me off whenever I asked about anything - he did reply, sort of, but he answered only some of the questions, and unclearly at that. Communication with him exhausted me terribly -I think this was the first time I had ever encountered such a difficult person to communicate with.

Is it supposed to be like this, that around the time when the remote sessions were taking place, I later felt awful? Or did I simply happen to catch another infection at the same time and the two things coincided? I admit that I had assumed I would feel some warmth, a sense of love and peace, real energy during those sessions, but instead I suddenly developed a whole mass of symptoms I had never had before, and I felt bad, very ill.

I also did not receive any instructions about what I should do, apart from being told to drink a lot of water after the sessions because the body was cleansing itself.

What do you think happened here? Did I misread this person and let myself get scammed, or does this person simply have communication problems, and all the symptoms I had and still have are a sign of my body’s intensified fight for health?

I have already found another healer whom I want to try, and maybe he will help me. However, I do not know whether I should wait for some time because my body really is in a very twisted phase of healing, or whether I can calmly try with another healer. Doctors keep loading me with more antibiotic therapies and similar things, or very invasive and expensive tests and procedures, and I no longer have the health for that. In my opinion, they stopped being able to handle my case long ago, if they were ever able to handle it at all - I waited over 20 years for the correct diagnosis, while running from doctor to doctor privately during that whole time.

I have been struggling with serious health problems for almost my entire life. They were treated badly for many years, which led to my body becoming terribly weakened. After many years of going from doctor to doctor, and after surgery, I finally decided to look for a healer.

According to the description on his website, I sent him a photo and did not give him any information about what was wrong with me. He has a lot of positive reviews, and that is why I decided to ask for his help.

In response, I was told that my problems were caused by an unresolved flu, and that things would be better now. Maybe, among the huge number of health issues I have, one of them really is an unresolved flu. However, that has nothing to do with the symptoms that are severe enough to keep me from sleeping.

I am wondering what could be the reason for such a strongly inaccurate diagnosis. I know absolutely nothing about healing outside the medical paradigm, apart from meditation, where I try to help myself.

I do not know what to think about such an inaccurate diagnosis from a healer. Should I look for someone else? Is it possible that he was so wrong, and yet his energy healing sessions could still help me?

I have been struggling with serious health problems for almost my entire life. They were treated badly for many years, which led to my body becoming terribly weakened. After many years of going from doctor to doctor, and after surgery, I finally decided to look for a healer.

According to the description on his website, I sent him a photo and did not give him any information about what was wrong with me. He has a lot of positive reviews, and that is why I decided to ask for his help.

In response, I was told that my problems were caused by an unresolved flu, and that things would be better now. Maybe, among the huge number of health issues I have, one of them really is an unresolved flu. However, that has nothing to do with the symptoms that are severe enough to keep me from sleeping.

I am wondering what could be the reason for such a strongly inaccurate diagnosis. I know absolutely nothing about healing outside the medical paradigm, apart from meditation, where I try to help myself.

I do not know what to think about such an inaccurate diagnosis from a healer. Should I look for someone else? Is it possible that he was so wrong, and yet his energy healing sessions could still help me?

Today I want to share an experience from my childhood.

The event itself is quite ordinary and strange at the same time. For a few weeks, whenever I woke up in the morning, I would find a candy hidden under my pillow or in the slippers standing next to my bed. My younger brother was also finding one candy for himself in the same places during that period.

They were my favorite candies. No other kind ever appeared, only the ones I loved so much. At the time, I assumed my mother was putting them there for us to find every morning. It seemed strange, though, because my mother has always been a very cold person, always buried in books, not one of those warm mothers who seek contact with their children.

Then one day, the candies stopped appearing, and I asked her why we weren’t getting them anymore. It turned out that she was very surprised and had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.

At that time, the three of us lived on the top floor of an old tenement building. Nobody visited us, and we didn’t have any supply of those candies at home. So if my mother wasn’t placing them there, there was simply no explanation for why they had been appearing every morning for several weeks.

A huge number of strange things happened in that tenement building. Later, when I lived there alone during my university years, friends would sometimes flee the apartment in the middle of the night because they were so scared. Practically everything that happened there was at least unsettling, if not outright horrible, and this one story with the candies is the only one that stands out as positive among all the strange phenomena in that place.

I'm curious whether any of you have experienced real healing of the physical body through NHI? Or the opposite -do you have the impression that contact with them has negatively affected your health?

I have been fighting for my health for years and this is a very complex topic for me. And I have always wondered about this -how is it that I have experienced so many strange phenomena throughout my life, yet none of it has ever had a positive effect on my health. Even when I decided to pay for sessions with people claiming they could heal, it turned out they were talking nonsense, completely missing the mark on my actual health problems and not helping me at all. That does not mean I think there are no genuine healers out there - in my opinion there probably are, given that so many other things are possible and I have experienced them myself.

Over the years I have asked NHI I was in contact with for help with my health many times, in whatever form. They could have suggested I look in a specific direction, go to a particular specialist, try certain herbs, or simply help heal my body directly. Especially given how many times they have painfully interfered with my nonphysical body.

Yet none of that ever happened, they never helped me in this area. I even have the impression that many of my health problems stem at least partially from these strange experiences.

I will add that what I find interesting, over the years I have met two people who had experiences similar to mine, including with NHI. And both of them also had health problems, and their requests for help in this area went unanswered as well.

So I am curious what your experiences are?

I was around 5-6 years old (the eighties) and I was upset about something. I came up with the idea of draping a sweatshirt over a gymnastics bar and hitting it to work off my anger. I had barely started doing this when I felt someone watching me. I quickly turned around and saw the silhouette of a short, wide figure (roughly my height at the time). It was wrapped in a black coat reaching to the ground and wore a hat with a wide brim. No face could be made out -there was simply blackness where it should have been. When I blinked, it was gone. I was alone at home at the time, so I sat there frightened, back pressed against the wall so I could see everything, until my parents returned.

Later, for years, I would see this figure sporadically and only for a moment -when I turned around and saw it entering a room from the hallway, and so on. However, it already looked like a tall adult man dressed in a suit, or a long coat, always black, and a hat, now with a normal brim. Over time I started seeing it less and less often, but it appeared more frequently in my dreams. I had trouble making out its face, but eventually it began to look like an older man with a few days of grey stubble.

For as long as I can remember I have been experiencing LD/AP, so I often encountered this figure while fully conscious. The pattern was that I would be in an LD/AP or an ordinary dream, going about my own business, when suddenly this figure would appear and either observe me or behave like a typical trickster. It would laugh, project its own space, or alter the one we were in, and each time its messages were roughly the same: I run things here.

For example, a few years ago when I was in the hospital, one night during LD/AP I was wandering the corridors until I found a stairway down to the basement, where there was a crowd of figures, deformed in various ways. I exchanged a few words with some of them and simply observed the place with curiosity. Suddenly the hatman appeared, generated a platform and a throne for himself on which he sat, and with a smile on his face told me I had no chance against him and that I could try to wrestle with him, but that he runs things here. And that he lets me be and visits me because he is fond of me. While he was saying this I was testing all the LD/AP techniques I knew and they simply did not work at all -not because I had doubts about whether they would work, they just plain did not, as if I were somehow dimmed. Which is strange because I never feel that way during my travels, except when I am a guest in some place where my thoughts have no power to project. I am giving this dream as an example of how dreams with this figure usually went.

The last dream I had with this figure was a few months ago. I was walking through some small town, lost in thought, and there was one strange house there -when I approached it, this black figure in a hat ran out of it, this time it had no face, it was simply a purely black silhouette, almost twodimensional, which looked strange against the backdrop of the wellformed location. It was laughing and teasing me, encouraging me to run after it somewhere. I was about to do just that, but I thought that I simply had no desire to shift my experience into a scuffle with this figure. So I continued what I was doing.

However, in the next LD/AP it appeared again. This time I was in a building and I noticed its silhouette crawling along the walls, flat like a shadow and bending at the irregularities of the walls and furniture. At first I felt unease, because I had never encountered that motif before, and then I extinguished the unease and decided to catch the figure. I chased it for a long time, but eventually caught it, and this black shape writhed in my hand like an octopus. It tried to free itself, but I squeezed it tighter and saw that I was holding something like its black heart in my hand, while the rest of the figure dispersed like mist. I generated a knife and a cutting board and decided I would check what was inside. I started cutting into the heart and black blood poured from it, and it was still beating -I had a strong sense that the consciousness hidden inside was writhing and trying somehow to escape. But when I had cut it all into slices, I felt that this consciousness was somehow in a state of dissolution and searching for a way to reconstitute itself. So I sensed it trying to impose on me a desire to eat the sliced heart so it could merge into me. I rejected that impulse and decided to move away from that place by shifting the location.

I should add that it was only around three years ago that I learned such a phenomenon as the hatman even exists. In my country I had never come across this concept or accounts of encounters with such figures. Interestingly, as a child I also named this figure hatman, only in my native language.

I am curious whether you have had similar experiences with figures dressed in black with a black hat?

Hi!

I thought I would share stories from my experiences here from time to time in separate posts, so I will start with this one: a strange phenomenon I observed around 2015 and I'm curious whether any of you have encountered something similar.

I was at my parents house, which is at the end of a village, surrounded by fields and forests. It was a warm summer, and the weather was specific, the entire sky was covered with a thick layer of clouds, no gaps of blue.

I was busy inside when my mother asked me to come out to the terrace because something was happening there. When I came out, it turned out there was an intense loud sound, like the buzzing of a swarm of bees. Except that when we looked at the sky, nothing could be seen there. I even stood on a table on that terrace and went inside to look out through the skylight on the upper floor, but still nothing could be spotted. Only the buzzing could be heard, which simply sounded like a swarm of bees, which is a very characteristic sound.

While we were standing on the terrace, there was also the impression that the air was slightly electrified and there was a sense of some weight, as if the pressure was a little higher. It was very subtle compared to the intensity of the sound, but noticeable.

However, what was most interesting was the fact that when you stepped outside the perimeter of the terrace that sound disappeared and complete silence prevailed. Zero ordinary animal sounds, like crickets chirping, birds, etc. Simply total silence, as if someone had turned the sound off. And that was a very sharp boundary of that transition. There was nothing gradual or smooth about it, only a sharp shift from the loud bee buzzing on the terrace to silence just after stepping beyond the area of the terrace.

The whole phenomenon lasted a long time, at least an hour, and probably much longer. we simply had to eventually return to our activities. And I left not long after.

Meanwhile, my mother claims that the next day the effect was no longer there, but for a few days after, she sensed some strange impression on that terrace, although she was unable to define it.

I have been wondering about all of this.

Since childhood I have had a huge number of experiences, encounters with various spirits, beings, UFO sightings, and simply strange events. Most of them happened with other people present, so I know they were not products of my imagination. However, for almost 40 years I ignored these topics, what I was experiencing fascinated me, but I was looking for answers in science.

When I finally, a few years ago, started looking for answers in areas related to astral projection, high strangeness, and eventually the UFO topic, I finally started finding accounts of experiences similar to mine. So I contacted researchers working on this topic in my country, hoping they would guide me a little and help me find my bearings. At that point I was still ashamed to talk about any of it, not wanting to come across as crazy.
However, those researchers showed no interest, even though in their books they described cases very similar to my experiences.

So I looked for information on forums in my country, but I kept running into people focused only on generic popculture interpretations.

Eventually I found reddit, and through it I started finding good books describing these kinds of phenomena. in my native language there are practically no translated books on this subject from englishlanguage literature.

As I read, I started to realize that some of the experiences I had been ignoring probably should not have been ignored and actually matter. For example, reading Karla Turners books I began connecting some of the things she described with my own experiences, and for the first time in my life I simply felt sick after reading.

I have memories going back to age 2, and I remember that in my early years I used to dream about a triangular UFO. but one glowing entirely with bright white light, not just with point lights at its corners. That dream haunted me, and each time I was just as terrified. This was the early 1980s in eastern europe, when the image of a UFO was associated with saucers, and the whole topic was simply not fashionable in my country.

I am trying to learn more about my experiences. I would gladly undergo hypnosis for this purpose, but there is no one in my country who does this. In out of body experiences and meditation I keep hitting a wall and cannot access certain memories. And my english is not good enough to undergo hypnosis in english (I use AI to help with translating texts).

Sometimes I describe one of my experiences on reddit, but the comments that appear trying to impose interpretations inconsistent with my actual experiences put me off completely. Such nitpicky comments are simply discouraging when it comes to posting anything.

I am wondering what to do with all of this. I can draw, and draw well -I have worked professionally as an illustrator for over 20 years. so I could try to describe and illustrate all of it, but does it make sense? It is an enormous amount of work. And where would I even post it, somewhere safe, without having to prove such basic things as for example that I am certain there were never mice in my parents house. I understand that there are people who want to show off their skepticism and their ability to rule out other, more mundane explanations. But it is genuinely discouraging when my explanations are dismissed because someone apparently knows better than I do what conditions I and my family live in. Evidence in the form of photos etc. I could send to a researcher working on this topic, not to random people on reddit.

Are there actually any places where you can have a meaningful conversation about your experiences? Or is it better to simply stay silent and keep the content of those experiences for your close ones, who in many cases were present for them themselves?

Hi!

I thought I would ask in this group whether any of you have come across a sound like the one in this video.

The background to this is that I have experienced strange phenomena my whole life, but until recently I kept suppressing it all and trying to explain it reductionistically, or I would just bury it in my memory and stay silent about it. Most of the time there were other people with me who experienced the same things: UFOs, sounds, smells, entities, objects moving on their own. There was really a lot of it over the years, and alongside that I had been experiencing out of body travel since childhood, and I sense certain things, which actually saved my life a few times.

Around the turn of 2019 and 2020 I was staying with my parents, who had moved into a cottage in the middle of nowhere -the end of a village, surrounded by fields and forests, completely dark and quiet at night. In that house and the surrounding forests I experienced a large number of strange phenomena, and sometimes I simply felt that something was wrong.

During that particular period I sensed that something was off, I was having very strange dreams, and the density of strange occurrences was generally higher than usual, so one of the things I did was leave my phone on overnight to record sounds. At the time I recorded the sounds in the video, it was the middle of winter, temperatures around -10 degrees Celsius, snow outside, and the usual winter night silence, apart from the occasional barking of dogs from the village. My parents had no animals in the house, and on the property in a small patch of woods about 50 meters away they only had a henhouse locked inside an aviary. I also had antiburglary shutters pulled down over the windows of the room I was sleeping in, to keep the morning light out. So sleeping alone on the upper floor, my parents were on the ground floor, I had complete quiet and darkness in there. There were also no appliances on the upper floor apart from one computer turned off at night and my phone -no washing machines, refrigerators, heating units or anything else that could make noise. So I found no explanation for the recorded sounds, which resemble bird song and personally remind me of a chirpy kind of speech -except there was definitely no bird in the house, and there were certainly no birds singing in the middle of the night outside either. The original recording contains sounds from the whole night, and based on it, those birdlike trills were occurring roughly between 1 and 4 in the morning. I cut out only that portion of it.

I was recording every night for about 2 months at the time, and no other night had similar sounds. Usually all you could hear was the rustling of me turning over in bed, or snoring. However, I also have some other fairly strange sounds recorded from that period that sound like a long, slowly building hum that keeps repeating, which I also cannot explain -I may upload those to YT as well if anyone is interested.

I will add at the end that when I slept in that same house years earlier, I experienced a UFO/NHI visitation that I remember quite clearly -for years I interpreted it as a dream, because I did not know what else to do with it.

I thought I would share here (only briefly) some of the information I managed to gather over the years. I collected this knowledge (and continue to collect it) as a result of experiencing strange phenomena throughout my entire life, for which I was simply looking for answers and explanations. I do not claim this is some kind of ultimate truth and one can simply disagree with my interpretations.

I will start by saying that we are not humans who can travel outside the body, or abandon it at the moment of death. We are bodiless beings who experience life on the physical plane.

Yet we identify with our bodies, social roles, ethics, the laws of physics, the fact that we have senses through which we perceive reality in a given way, and we have emotions that we need to signal our boundaries and needs. This identification with all of it closes each of us even further into this physical reality. I am not saying this means people should drop everything and start 'feeding on the energy of the sun'. body has its needs and they should be taken care of, just as you should take care of your psyche, loved ones, etc.

Meanwhile, every time you sleep you are outside your body, and yet the dreams you dream are mostly a repetition of what you experience here on a daily basis. You unconsciously project/create substitutes for your body, the laws of physics, cities, etc. This is a repetition of patterns learned here, so called mental models. however, outside the body, there is no need to play the role of a human, nor to project the laws of physics there. I will add that outside the body you are sometimes in a space that depends on the projections of your own mind and, for example, scenes from life that stir emotions are replayed there, and it can be changed freely without difficulty. Sometimes you are in shared spaces in which, together with others, the appearance and rules of a given space are coprojected -so even in nonphysical spaces there are copies of physical reality.

You can also encounter foreign, nonhuman spaces, and just as you can encounter beings who were incarnated as humans, or just like you are merely traveling outside their body which is still alive, you can also encounter beings that are entirely nonhuman, and there is a very great variety of them.

Our thoughts are partially (or entirely) visible/detectable by NHI -different beings have the ability to pick them up at different levels. From what I have observed, the more entrenched the thought patterns and the more emotionally charged they are, the easier it is for such beings to pick them up. And because of this, they can take on a form that will trigger in us the emotional reaction they desire. They can appear frightening, or very attractive, these are illusions. Beings without form can take on any form and create spaces that look any way they choose (exactly the same as each of us can when outside the body).

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Energy flows through each of us, which we process in various ways, and emotions generate its specific frequencies. I have not observed this myself, but from accounts of other people traveling outside the body, I know that this process of energy moved by emotions can be observed -and it appears as a fluctuation of various shades/ranges of energy constantly circulating in the body and slightly beyond it. At the moment when strong emotions are experienced, fragments of this energy are thrown far outside the body and do not return -these are probably strands of socalled loosh. I read a description from buddhist practices that was very consistent with these observations, where there was exactly the same observation about energy and emotions. This energy/loosh is used mostly by ourselves in everyday life. Outside the body, drawing on various emotional states is a way of directing energy, through which you can travel, create, change, communicate, defend, etc.

From my experience, most NHI encountered simply want to play and do not understand our pain, our fear of death, etc. For them everything is an experience that poses no threat to them. They enjoy taking on forms that provoke emotional reactions in us simply for amusement, or for their own benefit. however, there are also those that have accompanied the physical plane for a long time and have their own mechanisms through which they draw on that expelled energy at moments of strong emotion. There are NHI that are somehow less conscious and will automatically appear wherever there is, for example, a strong energy of sadness, because that is their frequency band, their range of existence. There are also those that have simply learned to feed on a given emotional range, but are far more complex and conscious, simply specialized in a given range, and these can actively support, for example, the deepening of the emotion of sadness (our thoughts can be influenced more easily than people might expect). There are also NHI that are more like us, complex, and they are able to trigger a wide variety of emotional states and draw from all of them, sometimes giving something in return -but most often this is the weaving of an illusion designed to create dependency on interaction with them.

Of course, it is not the case that all NHI drawing from the energy arising from our emotions are fundamentally bad -it is simply that reality from their perspective is different. And sometimes the energy expelled by us is like money lying in the street, and whoever comes across it will simply make use of it.

I suspect that there genuinely exists an organized group of NHI, who also have a physical form, that governs our earthly system, causing it to function as a kind of farm from which they benefit -and that is why this whole experience becomes so nightmarish. because we are free beings, bodiless ones, who were either deliberately trapped here, or ended up here by accident and became stuck in a cycle of incarnations, and our consciousness/memory is wiped, limited, and manipulated so that we cannot break free from here.

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I think the earthly system is one of many similar ones that exist, and they are tiny specks within the vastness of immaterial spaces. However, the entire nonmaterial sphere, contrary to what we have been taught here, is not good or evil, there is no god there who is just and good. There are also no beings whose sole purpose is to help us -although some humans after death and upon reaching some degree of 'spiritual' development here do try to help those who are incarnating, from what I know. The nonmaterial plane is similar to our nature -everything feeds on everything and coexists, cooperates with one another. the difference is that there is no death, illness, or pain there, so the whole phenomenon seems better.

I suspect that however hardcore things are here and however exploitative, dark, and sick this system is, we probably still gain quite a lot of skills from it that could not be learned without experiencing life in a body. I also suspect that all those accounts claiming this is all a kind of school are, in a certain sense, true -but not because such was the intention of the earthly system, but because its participants manage to draw from it regardless, if they succeed in moving on from here. Each of us is alone here, there are no beings that can truly be trusted and that you can be certain are not a mirage. In sleep, under the influence of psychedelics, during meditation, after death, or even while on an ordinary walk -beings can be encountered that will appear breathtaking and you will have the impression of a piercing love -but this is false.

I think the concept of god was implanted in us to more effectively extract energy from us, because we ourselves send it out through our faith in a benevolent being, toward beings that feed on it. I also think that the concept of guardians, spirit guides, god, angels, protective ancestors, etc. is a projection of a pattern we know here from life, namely protective parents, grandparents, teachers, religious guides, political leaders, etc. We are deeply accustomed to this model from our everyday life, and on top of that various belief systems confirm it for us (angels, etc.), so we assume that outside the body there are good beings, that someone will take care of us, because we come from somewhere, we are someone's 'children'. But in truth we are alone, each of us, however not in the bad sense of loneliness, but in the sense of being yourself, a selfsufficient being that can form relationships but does not have to.

Notice the fact that even in the natural world, not every species is social, and not every animal has protective parents and a group that looks after them.

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So I think the greatest problem of our being stuck in this system is that we identify with being human, and with the rules we have learned as humans. on top of this comes an entire mass of misleading patterns -cultural, religious, political, biological- that only lock us further into it.

I do not claim to know the answer to how to break free from this prison planet, but if I had to guess what is effective, buddhist practices seem the most sensible. They hold that everything is illusion, they meditate in order not to identify with their own thoughts and emotions, to be in a state of pure consciousness, and thereby have a greater chance of passing through the death process in a way that does not allow them to be drawn back into the cycle of reincarnation. There is a practice known as tibetan dream yoga (Milam) and in my view it is the most interesting, because it teaches clarity of mind even in sleep -and sleep is a state surprisingly close to what happens after death.

I myself have encountered people who got stuck after death in their selfprojected spaces, copying what was most important to them during life on the physical plane as a human -they look exactly like humans during sleep who have become caught in a loop of some dreamlike mirage. I knew people who traveled outside the body for years and were proud that beings presenting themselves as their 'spirit guides' taught them how to pull out such people who had become stuck after death, or how to persuade those who were unwilling to incarnate to go ahead and incarnate again. And they were proud of this, that they were helping to sustain the system of incarnation, that they were helping their spiritual 'friends' and deceased people who were lost. So behind this system stand not only NHI, but also humans who support it believing they are doing good.

So all of this is complex, and I have presented the subject here only in broad strokes, but I hope my post will bring some new thoughts.