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George Hartzman on Data Centers in Greensboro and a $50 million Parking Deck

Before joining City Council, Tammi Thurm served as CFO and Vice President for companies owned by downtown developer Randall Kaplan, whose wife is former Congresswoman Kathy Manning.

She worked for his Elm Street businesses for more than a decade before being elected to Council.

Since joining Council, she has overwhelmingly voted for tax and fee increases, a massive, ~$50 million underused parking deck for Kaplan and Manning's nonexistent Elm Street hotel project, and development and infrastructure which benefited projects associated with her former employers.

Randall Kaplan has financially supported her campaigns.

Kathy Manning has also contributed to her campaign committee.

Then there's the parking; Parking fees increased, free lots became paid lots, and according to the city's financial statements discussed in one analysis, the Parking Facilities Fund still required General Fund support, due to the decks Thurm voted for.

Thurm is responsible for a lot of the parking fee problems downtown small business owners have faced from the white elephant parking deck she pushed on Greensboro's taxpayers for her 'former' bosses.

Now consider data centers.

Thurm voted against even beginning a moratorium process, along with Hugh Holsten, Marikay Abuzuaiter, Denise Turner Roth, who recused after writing an op-ed in the News & Record without disclosing "her affiliations with various companies and groups associated with artificial intelligence" and TREBIC member Adam Marshall.

And taxes?

Thurm voted for a 18.7% property tax increase and 11.4% higher water and sewer rates.

u/aenbrnood — 18 hours ago
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One-Third Empty, Taxes Up 12%. And Greensboro's Homeowners are Next, Again; The tax increases are already in place

Greensboro’s Wells Fargo Building shows how the commercial real-estate problem is going to be a residential property-tax problem next year

Link in the Comments

u/aenbrnood — 11 days ago
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The City of Greensboro says the City Council supported the Mayor’s statement on Lora Cubbage. Which Council members? Either there's a vote, a poll, or a closed session; or someone wrote a sentence that wasn't true. Link in the comments

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u/aenbrnood — 19 days ago
▲ 23 r/GSO_Lite+1 crossposts

Greensboro's Mayor Marikay Abuzuaiter and City Attorney Lora Cubbage Are Now Politically Intertwined

Yesterday's official statement from Mayor Marikay Abuzuaiter wasn't just a defense of City Attorney Lora Cubbage.

It was an acknowledgment that the two have become politically inseparable.

When ethics complaints were filed against the Mayor, those complaints also challenged legal advice provided by City Attorney Lora Cubbage. Rather than referring the matter to an independent reviewer, Cubbage ultimately determined that even if the allegations were true, no ethics violation warranted outside investigation; including allegations involving her own legal advice.

Now the roles have reversed.

The City Attorney is under intense public scrutiny following recorded telephone conversations, public criticism, litigation and editorials questioning her conduct. The Mayor has stepped forward to publicly defend her.

A political circle. (Also a circus fwiw)

When the Mayor's ethics were questioned, the City Attorney became the official responsible for determining whether those complaints would proceed. The complaints did not challenge only the Mayor's conduct; they also questioned legal advice provided by the City Attorney herself and expressly requested that she recuse herself and refer the matter to an independent outside investigator because her own advice and actions were implicated. Instead, Cubbage concluded that the allegations didn't establish an ethics violation warranting referral, including the allegations concerning her own conduct.

The outcome was inconsistent, as the official (Cubbage) whose advice was challenged remained the decision-maker in violation of the Ethics Code, on whether an independent investigation would occur. Rather than stepping aside, she determined neither the Mayor nor her own office had violated the City's ethics policy, effectively resolving allegations involving both the Mayor and herself without outside review.

Now the positions have reversed. As the City Attorney faces public scrutiny over her own conduct, the Mayor has stepped forward as her principal public defender. What began as the City Attorney defending the Mayor has evolved into the Mayor defending the City Attorney.

Intertwined.

Abuzuaiter and Cubbage publicly reinforcing the credibility of the other.

Even more unusual is the Mayor's statement itself.

She correctly acknowledged that Greensboro residents have every right to criticize their government and hold officials accountable.

Then, without identifying any facts, she pivoted to saying that when a City employee raises concerns about their "professional and personal safety," those concerns deserve to be taken seriously.

Of course they do.

But what happened?

Who made the threat?

When?

Was law enforcement contacted?

Was there a police report?

Those are obvious questions because suggesting safety concerns involving a public official is a serious matter. Serious allegations deserve serious facts.

At roughly the same time, Yo! Greensboro publisher Eric Robert sent the Mayor a direct email asking something equally straightforward;

If there is misinformation, what specifically is it?

If anything he published is inaccurate, identify it, provide the evidence, and he would correct it.

He also asked direct questions about reports that City officials attempted to influence media coverage and about the authority under which the City Attorney allegedly claimed she had authority to pursue legal action against private citizens.

Those are factual questions.

If the answers are "no," say so.

If the answers are "yes," explain why.

Instead of answers, Greensboro received a statement that raises more questions than it resolves.

When the City's chief legal officer and the City's chief elected official become each other's public defenders during overlapping controversies, the public naturally begins to ask whether objective oversight has become more difficult.

The public should be able to distinguish between defending the legal interests of the City and defending the reputations of individual officials.

Until straightforward questions receive straightforward answers, the story is unlikely to go away.

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u/CassioFiasco — 20 days ago
▲ 33 r/gsopolitics+2 crossposts

Lora Cubbage; From Ethics Complaints to Courtroom; How Greensboro’s City Attorney Became the Story; How Greensboro’s Legal and Communications Crisis Came to Define City Hall

Link in the comments

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u/aenbrnood — 19 days ago
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Tammi Thurm and Data Centers; Who Does Greensboro City Council Really Work For?

Greensboro's biggest winners always seem to be the same politically connected insiders.

Take Council Member Tammi Thurm.

Before joining City Council, Thurm served as CFO and Vice President for companies owned by downtown developer Randall Kaplan, whose wife is former Congresswoman Kathy Manning.

She worked for his Elm Street businesses for years before being elected to Council.

Since joining Council, she has overwhelmingly voted for tax and fee increases, a massive, ~$42.8 million underused parking deck for Kaplan and Manning's nonexistent Elm Street hotel project, development and infrastructure which benefited projects associated with her former employer.

Randall Kaplan has financially supported her campaigns.

Kathy Manning has also contributed to her campaign committee.

Then there's the parking; Parking fees increased, free lots became paid lots, and according to the city's financial statements discussed in one analysis, the Parking Facilities Fund still required General Fund support, due to the decks Thurm voted for.

Tammi Thurm is responsible for a lot of the parking fee problems downtown small business owners have faced from the White elephant parking deck she pushed on Greensboro's taxpayers for her 'former' bosses.

Now consider data centers.

At Tuesday's meeting, Thurm voted against even beginning a moratorium process, along with Hugh Holsten, Marikay Abuzuaiter, Denise Turner Roth, who wrote an op-ed in the News & Record without disclosing "her affiliations with various companies and groups associated with artificial intelligence" and TREBIC member Adam Marshall.

And taxes?

Thurm voted for a 18.7% property tax increase and 11.4% higher water and sewer rates.

She is the Treasurer of Greensboro Downtown Parks, which lately, she has been forced to recuse herself for, as the city has to allocate taxpayer funds, at least $425,000 a year, to take care of LeBauer Park and Center City Park, not including capital improvements, major repairs, utility infrastructure, City-owned asset replacement, and any separately budgeted Parks & Recreation capital projects (such as recent LeBauer design work).

Greensboro received 'free' parks' which now cost the public millions to police and take care of.

And now she's for data centers at the top of a watershed.

Data centers run on two things Greensboro is short on; cheap power and spare water. The city sits at the headwaters of the Cape Fear basin, with no major river to draw on; only three small reservoirs. Their safe yield is about 36 million gallons a day, and the city already delivers close to that, buying supplemental water from Burlington, Reidsville and the Piedmont Triad Regional Water Authority to stay whole. We are not sitting on spare capacity.

North Carolina keeps no comprehensive inventory of data centers and requires no water-withdrawal permit here, so residents are asked to trust figures no agency verifies.

Crony capitalism at it's finest.

The question is whether committing scarce public water to these facilities is the best use of a finite asset.

Greensboro doesn't just deserve honest government; it deserves a government that is unquestionably independent of the interests seeking to profit from City Hall.

Next up, "Greensboro City Council will hold a work session [today] about data centers at 3 pm Wednesday, July 22, in the Plaza Level Conference Room of the Melvin Municipal Office Building, located at 300 West Washington Street.

Members of the public are welcome to observe, put seating will be limited." per Yes Weekly.

According to City Attorney Lora Cubbage;

“The work session will feature Christopher Lloyd, senior vice president and director at McGuireWoods Consulting, who advises communities on economic development and data center projects.

From the McGuireWoods website;

“McGuireWoods has been a trusted partner to data center developers and operators for more than 25 years. We have facilitated the development of millions of square feet of new data center space in markets throughout the country.

Greensboro residents deserve to know not only what decisions are being made, but who benefits, who is advising those decisions, and whether the public's interests are being placed ahead of those with financial and political connections to City Hall.

u/aenbrnood — 30 days ago
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Hartzman v. City of Greensboro

I'm the pro se plaintiff in Hartzman v. City of Greensboro (Guilford County Superior Court, No. 26CV014985-400), a procedural challenge to how the City adopted its FY2026-27 budget. The preliminary injunction hearing is set for Monday, July 20, at 10am, in Courtroom 3H at the Guilford County Courthouse. It's open to the public.

The case contends the public hearing on Greensboro's adopted budget never happened; the single hearing required by N.C.G.S. § 159-12(b) was held June 2 on a 58.30-cent rate, but on June 16 the Council adopted a materially different 79.85-cent budget without ever opening that version to comment, and did so just five days after presenting the revised budget on June 11, short of the ten-day minimum in § 159-13(a).

The cleanest concrete harm falls on motor vehicles, taxed roughly 18.7% higher with no revaluation offset to soften it. The strongest evidence is the City's own words; its filings concede the adopted budget "differed materially" from the one heard and call the Council's changes "substantial," the City Manager on the June 16 recording described a "pre-revaluation scenario," and officials acknowledged "two different budgets" while the City Attorney dismissed the lack of anyone commenting before the vote as "form over substance".

The amended complaint, the injunction motion and reply, my affidavit, and the hearing exhibits are here;

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1BwAwBvCGLmiew9JsUBk82uEsh5w6N_fa

Sort by name and A to Z; I recommend downloading the first three and uploading them into a thinkomatic machine and tell it to analyze for a brief summary etc...

Thanks,

g

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u/aenbrnood — 1 month ago

What Buncombe County's switch from reappraisal values to prior values meant for vehicles and business personal property.

Buncombe initially adopted a 43.20¢ tax rate using 2026 reappraisal values. After SB 889 required use of prior values, the County adopted a 61.54¢ rate instead.

For taxable property categories that did not receive a corresponding reduction in assessed value, the increase in the tax rate represented a 42.5% increase in county property taxes.

u/aenbrnood — 1 month ago
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Hartzman v City of Greensboro

The Preliminary Injunction remains pending and was continued until July 20.

Registered motor vehicles and business non real estate related property were not part of the reappraisal controversy that led to the adoption of SB 889.

For vehicle owners, that represents approximately a 37% higher city tax rate 79.85¢/$100 than the 58.30¢/$100 rate discussed at the public hearing.

More importantly:

• The Court did not dismiss the case.

• The Court did not rule that Plaintiff lacks standing.

• The Court did not rule that the City's actions complied with North Carolina law.

• The Court did not decide that the budget challenge lacks merit.

Had the Court believed the lawsuit was legally deficient, frivolous, or incapable of succeeding, there were procedural mechanisms available to dispose of it immediately.

Instead, the Court set the matter for a full Preliminary Injunction hearing.

That hearing will address the central issue in this case:

Did Greensboro present one budget to the public for hearing and then adopt a materially different budget without providing the notice and public hearing required by North Carolina law?

That question remains unanswered.

The City is free to argue its actions complied with the law.

The Plaintiff is entitled to argue otherwise.

On July 20, the Court will begin deciding which position is correct.

A procedural victory on a TRO is not the same thing as a victory on the merits.

Plaintiff isn't asking the Court to impose a second-hearing requirement under Chapter 159. The hearing required by N.C. Gen. Stat. § 159-12 never occurred with respect to the budget actually presented for adoption. The June 2 hearing addressed a 58.30¢/$100 rate; the budget adopted on June 16 imposed a 79.85¢/$100 rate that was never the subject of any § 159-12 hearing.

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u/aenbrnood — 1 month ago
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The Front Page, and Two More Glowing Inside Sunday's News & Record and other papers across the country on their New Billionaire Owner, David Hoffmann; Three Pages of Praise. Zero Pages of Skepticism

The News & Record didn't just report on its new owner Sunday.

It saluted him.

The package featured headlines like "NEW HOPE FOR LOCAL NEWS," "A Family Tradition of Giving," and "Building a Business for the Long Haul."

Not a difficult headline among them.

Overwhelmingly positive coverage.

It's not journalism.

The unions representing Lee journalists, who publicly criticized the package for lacking the journalistic standards expected of any other front-page story.

There is a profound difference between reporting on the owner and promoting the owner.

It's reputation management.

No mention of Lee Enterprises spending years shrinking newsrooms.

Newspapers are essential because they are supposed to independently scrutinize powerful people, not because they celebrate them.

The editors and reporters who are supposed to ask questions of city councils, school boards, business leaders and nonprofit executives, published three pages about their own chairman's awesomeness.

We're asked to trust that independence still exists.

We need investigations into government spending.

We need scrutiny of development deals.

We need accountability reporting.

We need follow-up stories when officials don't answer questions.

Newspapers are supposed to scrutinize powerful people, not canonize them.

We got three pages telling us why we should feel good about the billionaire who now owns the paper.

Same thing happened with Roy Carroll, The Rhino Times and John Hammer, who sold out his own soul.

Don't expect to see any critical letters to the editor.

u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago

Hypothetical Impact if SB 889 Had Failed After Greensboro Adopted the 79.85¢ Tax Rate on June 16, 2026

If the June 16 vote legally adopted the budget ordinance, and SB 889 had failed, Greensboro would have been bound by a property tax levy adopted under then-existing law. Under G.S. 159-15, the City generally could not later change that levy or alter taxpayers' liabilities, absent a statutory exception. The UNC School of Government specifically warned local governments not to adopt budgets based on anticipated legislation because the law did not authorize contingent budget ordinances or contingent tax levies.

u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago

Wells Fargo Building; 300 N Greene St; First and Second Greensboro Budget Outcomes

u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago

FY 2026 Municipal Tax Base Certifications and Tax Abstracts; Guilford County

Pursuant to the North Carolina Public Records Law, N.C.G.S. Chapter 132, I request copies of the following records relating to the FY 2026-27 budget process.

Please provide:

  1. The certified taxable valuation (tax base) furnished to each municipality in Guilford County for preparation of its FY 2026-27 budget, including:
    • Greensboro
    • High Point
    • Jamestown
    • Summerfield
    • Oak Ridge
    • Pleasant Garden
    • Sedalia
    • Whitsett
    • Gibsonville (Guilford portion)
    • Kernersville (Guilford portion)
    • Archdale (Guilford portion)
  2. Any municipal tax abstract, certified tax abstract, tax base certification, valuation certification, or similar document showing:
    • Prior year's taxable valuation
    • Current year's taxable valuation
    • Dollar increase
    • Percentage increase
    • Real property
    • Personal property
    • Public service property
    • Discoveries
    • Exemptions
    • Any other adjustments used in determining each municipality's certified tax base.
  3. Any spreadsheets, reports, or summaries prepared by the Tax Assessor's Office comparing the FY 2025-26 and FY 2026-27 certified municipal tax bases.
  4. Any transmittal letters, memoranda, or emails transmitting the certified tax base figures to municipalities for FY 2026-27 budget preparation.
  5. If the certified figures changed after the initial certification, please provide both the original and revised certifications and identify the reason for the revision.

If these records exist electronically, I request them in their native electronic format (Excel, CSV, PDF, or similar).

Thank you.

Guilford County Public Records
Your record request #26-903 has been submitted successfully.
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u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago

2026-27 Budget Ordinance

Pursuant to the North Carolina Public Records Law, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 132-1 et seq., I request copies of the following records concerning Ordinance No. 2026-451, establishing the City of Greensboro's FY 2026-27 Annual Operating Budget:

  1. The copy of Ordinance No. 2026-451 that was filed with the City Clerk pursuant to N.C. Gen. Stat. § 159-13(d).
  2. The date and time the ordinance was filed with the City Clerk.
  3. Any file stamp, receipt, routing sheet, transmittal email, cover memorandum, or other record documenting when the ordinance was received and filed by the Clerk's Office.
  4. Any records reflecting when copies of the ordinance were filed with:
    • the Finance Officer;
    • the Budget Officer; and
    • the Clerk to the Governing Board, as required by N.C. Gen. Stat. § 159-13(d).
  5. If the City's position is that the ordinance was adopted on June 23, 2026, any records identifying that date as the official adoption date, including any memorandum, legal opinion, or communication explaining that determination.
  6. If the ordinance was not filed within five days after its official adoption, any records explaining the reason for the delay
  7. City of Greensboro Public Records Request Tracking System

Date/Time Requested: 06-29-2026 22:49

Your request has been submitted and is public records request # 35332.

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u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago

Subject: Public Records Request – City of Greensboro New Construction and Tax Base Growth (Tax Years 2024 and 2025)

Pursuant to the North Carolina Public Records Law, N.C. Gen. Stat. § 132-1 et seq., I request copies of the following records relating to the City of Greensboro only.

  1. Summary Reports

Please provide any existing reports, spreadsheets, database queries, or summaries showing the total assessed value added to the City of Greensboro tax base from:

  • New construction
  • Major improvements
  • Additions
  • Other improvements that increased assessed value

for:

  • Tax Year 2024
  • Tax Year 2025
  1. Category Breakdown

If available, please provide the totals broken down by property class, including:

  • Single-family residential
  • Townhomes/duplexes
  • Multifamily residential
  • Commercial
  • Industrial
  • Office
  • Retail
  • Hotel/Hospitality
  • Institutional
  • Other property classifications used by the Tax Department
  1. Tax Base Reports Furnished to Greensboro

Please provide any reports, worksheets, spreadsheets, memoranda, or other records furnished to the City of Greensboro for budget preparation showing:

  • Estimated tax base
  • New construction value
  • Growth value
  • Taxable value added
  • Net tax base growth
  • Revenue-neutral calculations

for the FY2025-26 and FY2026-27 budget processes.

If any portion of this request is available electronically, I request the records in their native electronic format (Excel, CSV, Access, SQL export, or similar) whenever possible.

If portions of the request are exempt from disclosure, please provide all non-exempt records and identify the legal basis for withholding any material.

If responsive records become available on a rolling basis, I request that they be produced as they are completed rather than waiting until the entire request is finished.

Thank you for your assistance.

Guilford County Public Records
Your record request #26-893 has been submitted successfully.
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u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago

How Greensboro calculated taxable property value

Pursuant to N.C. Gen. Stat. § 132-6, please provide the record or records showing how the City of Greensboro calculated the increase in its estimated taxable property value from the FY2025-26 tax base to the FY2026-27 adopted budget tax base.

If available, please include a breakdown of the estimated increase attributable to:

  • New residential construction
  • New multifamily construction
  • Commercial and industrial construction
  • Annexations
  • Improvements to existing property
  • Any other category used by the City

If no breakdown exists, please provide the record showing the calculation of the total estimated increase in taxable value used in the FY2026-27 adopted budget.

City of Greensboro Public Records Request Tracking System

Date/Time Requested: 06-28-2026 23:45

Your request has been submitted and is public records request # 35319.

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u/aenbrnood — 2 months ago