u/corporalgrif

Yes I get it another extraction camping post, but instead of just saying it's bad and how to stop it I'm going to explain Why it's an issue and needs to be changed.

first off why is it an issue?

it's an issue because fundamentally it not only hurts new players but also rewards players with little to no risk.

players starting out generally won't have the parts needed to make a trampler that can stop an extraction camper, so they will be targeted more, if a new player keeps having their trampler stolen by extraction campers they will stop playing the game, which will result in the game dying. this is not good.

as well the extraction camper has no actual risk of losing anything other than what's on their person, they already extracted their trampler and loot, they have zero reason to actually extract with their trampler.

this means they can stay in the match as long as they want, camping the extract and continuously extracting tramplers as long as they remain alive, the only thing at risk is their time and character items, neither they care much about.

that's the biggest problem, there is nothing to disincentivize them from staying in the match, meanwhile while they sit in the match camping extract they are actively taking up a server slot that could be used for another trampler.

I'm under no delusion that you can stop extract camping, barring from making them a no PVP zone (that's a terrible idea and will never happen) but you can disincentivize it, and here are some ways.

#1 extracts need to be placed further apart and more, there should always be six extracts in a match and they should have a minimum distance that they can spawn next to each other, extracts should never be clumped together in one corner. this would make it harder for a camper to be able to patrol multiple extracts at once for players.

#2 extract beacons should have a light on them, they turn red when a players is within 100 meters of the beacon and yellow when within 300 meters, this warns crews that someone is near the extract and likely watching or patrolling it, if the extract is clear the light will be green

#3 sand worms attack players who are off a trampler for too long, if you want to patrol the desert that's fine, but you will periodically be attacked by sand worms, you can kill them and it will reset their timer, but you will be using resources and making noise while you do this, making it harder to sneak up on a trampler

#4 add an alarmed entrance as a trampler part, this would be an early tech tree part, it's function is simple when someone who is not part of your crew touches the ladder and alarm will sound alerting you someone is boarding your trampler.

none of these suggestions would remove extract camping as a tactic, but it would make it harder and add to the risk to get that reward of another trampler full of loot.

This woulf be a big way to combat extraction camping. After a extraction is used have it disable and switch to a new location.

This way someone can't just extract their trampler and sit on that extract until another trampler arrives.

It should also help solve the problem of extracts being too clustered together sometimes.

The constant bunny hopping during PVP in ses of thieves makes it unbearable, thankfully this game doesn't have near instant healing so people can't just bunny hop around while healing.

I think the best way to counter this is just have a longer cool down between jumps.

I know the devs are fans of hunt: showdown because they've basically copied the hunter control scheme as the smuggler style.

It might be best to look at how they dealt with jumping in their game. Because if this game had the ship to ship combat of sea of thieves and the player versus player combat of hunt: showdown it would be a homerun

Salvage insurance guarantees that if your trampled is stolen or destroyed you will receive %50 of materials used in constructed.

Alternatively pay %75 of your tramplers value in crowns up front and you get all scrap value back upon losing your trampler.

The implementation of this is like many other extraction shooters. The lockbox would be located within your living quarters.

Each player has their own lockbox in their quarters, the lockbox would have 4 loot slots. In the event of the trampled being destroyed the lockbox will be salvaged and the contents added to your stash.

If not destroyed the contents of the lockbox will still be transferred to your stash.