u/duckblobartist

My team is like 30% of goal this past quarter, been getting a lot of this 🤣.

When I was eight I used to put a flashlight at the end of my bed and try to use the force to get it to move. No amount of "wanting something enough" is going to change the fact that 1. There is currently no demand for our services and 2. That almost every decision maker is out office until next Wednesday.

I used to be really against sending sample contracts / agreements. ( Work in retained physician recruitment) Mostly because I was trained to just get ppl to commit to a 30 minute meeting to.try and make them feel worse about their Physician job that has been open for 2 years, that 2 other retained firms have already failed to fill.

Now if they ask for a sample agreement I just send it. I can see how in other B2B sales you might actually need to understand about specific line item services they need. But retained recruitment is basically always the same.

After 5 years of doing this I have just come to the understanding it might be better to be completely transparent🤷.

Interested in hearing other points of view.

Asking hear cuz I get sick off the AI generated relationship questions my feed gets flooded with.

I have a little Chihuahua rescue and I just can't keep the fleas of him. I use the topical the good stuff the vet gave me, I have sprayed the back yard for mosquitoes and fleas, but I just can't can't keep them off of him.

The vet told me it is because of how wet it has been through spring and early summer... But I don't want him to get another tape worm.

Also he is heart worm positive and I am about to have to get him treated for that so he can't take oral.

I am thinking I need a better pesticide for the back yard. Any recommendations?

When I am talking about outliers my mind generally goes to that one time in 1993 with Jim got the CEO of XYZ company on the phone at 4:55 on Christmas Eve so now 3 decades later we are all expected to be CC on Christmas Eve. And then they start with never the whole "keep pushing" thing....

I am like Office Space level burnt out, despite closing a decent sized deal this week.

(They are not technically a startup they are already making shit ton of money.)

Thanks for everyone who contributed to my post last night. From what I gathered the interview went well 🤷. It was clear I was like this guy's 5th interview of the day, but it was like nothing I have been through before. I live in Dallas and every one of my jobs has been in the metro plex.

What I am used to in an interview is talking about who I am as salesperson and do my values align with the company's values. They generally want me to be able to tell them what research I have done on them etc... a very personable experience. And for the most part my employers have wanted to see that I have a track record of just figuring things out.

This was way different! From what I gather these west coast tech ppl just think of people as meat bags and they are going to do everything to standardize the process as much as possible. They even had me practice a script which I feel I did just fine with.

Very different... I want the money and we will see if they reach back out but that was a new experience🤷

I was approached by a recruiter about an SDR position with a crazy high base and OTE ($180k sounds insane). All the research I have been doing is saying that it is legit, and they are just looking to expand into my region after already having success in their time zone.

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Currently I work in retained physician recruitment, running the full sales cycle, I absolutely hate it! (If anyone is thinking about selling retained physician staffing services DO NOT DO IT. There are a hundred other firms that all do the same thing and there is nothing differentiates one firm from another!)

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Anyways I have an interview with the CEO tomorrow and if the comp is actually what the recruiter said it is, it would be life changing.

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Are there some questions I should be asking this guy to field for red flags? (Also I am 40 and as long as the pay is what they say it is I would be doubling my income)

Seriously I have sneezed twice these past two days and I feel like my shoulder and spine tighten up painfully bad. 😅

From dating apps to deals sitting in the pending folder. Ghosting is completely out of hand.

(I am sure some jack ass sales coach is gonna say something about how when we met with the client or went on that date, we must not have done x or y well enough...but please unless we are offering ppl literal free money we are all getting ghosted)

I have prospects who give me positive responses to emails then they never reply again.

I have had major clients that I went ahead and looped leadership into the meeting. Every thing goes well spend the majority of time talking about them and translate how our service is the best solution for them.... Then I can't get a yes or no from them for 6 months.

Heck half of the askmen subreddit is questions about why did they ghost me....

Ghosting just seems to be a plague affecting American communications... If any has a successful way to counter this I am all ears...

Sorry my industry is dead and no one is buying retained physician recruitment services.... so I have just been really bored and nit picking things that I can't stand about sales and leadership.

Why do managers always talk about "planning your day" "make sure you have a good plan!" ?

My position, at least, is not that technically sophisticated. Basically I just do cold out reach all day, and have tasks scheduled to follow up with warm leads 🤷. I don't understand what my bosses mean by having a plan, often times they will tosses terms like "call blocking" ... But literally cold calling and cold emailing is the entire job!

Why are you suggesting that I set aside an hour to make cold calls when making cold calls is 90% of the job!?

The thing that really gets me is when I am like, "it is not a secret that I have ADHD so planning is not my strong suit can you please show me an example of a plan like you are talking about" and they never really show me a "plan" this has been at 3 different companies!

Sure if I have a client meeting scheduled that goes on my calendar. It just drives me nuts because they act like having a "plan" is the key to success.

What the hell else am I supposed to put in my plan?!?!

I have a call scheduled with one of their recruiters tomorrow. It is for a Biz Dav position.... Honestly I am really burnt out from doing biz dev for the last 5 years after 16 soul crushing years in sales I think it is time to move to account AM or at least sell a product that people actually want.

If anyone has any experience with them I would love to hear it

I am coming across more and more AI receptionists. When I get one I just hang up. Even if I was calling a business for myself if I get an AI I just hang up, I have absolutely no patience for it.

I am burnt out I am tired and constantly feel like I am about to get fired. I have been working in sales since I graduated college, did 9 years in luxury auto sales I did well but the hours were hell for having a young family. Some how I ended up in healthcare staffing. I have never been the best and frankly feel like I have just spent the last 5 years struggling to do well enough not to get fired. And on top of that I am king less money then when I first started selling toyotas!

This year has been particularly bad and at this point I am so broken and burnt out.... Every cold call made every email sent just feels like a fart in the wind.... Have been reaching out to old friends to try and get back into car sales. But I am just dreading the hours.

I really do not want to sell anything anymore, I just want to wake up go to work accomplish a task, then go home and enjoy my family and documentaries about Bigfoot and UFOs .... I just don't feel like it should be that complicated.

The real struggle is that because of the housing market and rent prices, we can't downsize! I can't just take a pay cut to get a different type of job.

If anyone has any suggestions on a industry to get into I am hear to listen. (I have been learning web development... But I am probably 8 months out from being able to get a job doing that...)

I work at a small retained physician/dentist staffing company. So far this month we have only hit $24k of our $250k goal. And nobody really has anything strong pending on the books.

Last month was also really not great. But just interested to see how other industries are doing.