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I was using a Moto G55 that I bought last year, but my brother gave me a Poco Phone M7 Pro 5G. It has the same hardware, although the Moto is the 8GB/256GB version and the Poco is the 12GB/512GB version.

I use the Poco as my main phone and the other one as a secondary phone. The Poco was updated to Android 16 some time ago. But the Moto hasn't received it. When I turn it on, it always updates to some minor update, but there's no sign of Android 16.

On the other hand, I see on the forum that some people have received the Android 16 update on their Moto G35 without having to go through Android 15 first, which was much needed.

Another huge flaw is the update policy, forcing you to go through all the minor updates instead of updating directly to the latest version like it does on other phones.

I have, or have had, some Vivo phones at home that started with Android 11 and unexpectedly ended up with Android 14. I also have an Honor X8A tablet that no one expected anything from Honor. Well, it updated directly to Honor Magic 10 with Android 16. A tablet that cost me €87 on AliExpress.

With Motorola, nothing. I also have two Moto G04s that will never update to Android 15. But if you buy the following year's model, they do have the new version of Android.

Why am I complaining? I've had legendary phones in the past like the Moto G5 and Moto G5 Plus, and Motorola's update policies were a real burden. While a Samsung from that era would update to two new versions, Motorola, if you were lucky, would only update to one version, and even then, it was late. This meant that even with working phones, I had to install custom ROMs to keep using YouTube, Chrome, and those kinds of apps that now required at least Android 9.

When people say your phone is obsolete because that Android version is from a specific year, that's false. That date applies to Google Pixel phones. Your phone didn't get that version until much later. However, the end of app support starts from the release date of that version, and if your phone updates two years later, you've lost two years of app support.

At this rate, Android 17 will be released, and Motorola will still not release Android 16 for most of its phones.

My main workhorse PC has an i7 6700, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, a 500GB SATA SSD, and a 1TB HDD. All in a very small microATX case, only 28cm deep.

I have room for a dual-fan GTX 1060 6GB and an RX 570 4GB in an ITX form factor.

My gaming PC is a microATX tower in better condition than the first. It has an i5 8500 with 16GB of DDR4 RAM and an RX 6600 8GB. I use it like a gaming console for the most demanding games.

Here's the problem. Due to lack of space on my gaming PC (SSDs are very expensive now), I don't have room to install everything on my main gaming PC. So I finished Resident Evil Requiem on my primary PC and now I'm playing Forza Horizon 6.

Here are the problems. Resident Evil Requiem doesn't run smoothly with the GTX 1060. It's the same with the rest of the Nvidia 1000 and 900 series cards. I also experienced two crashes in the police station. But at least I was able to finish the game with the GTX 1060.

The problem with the 1000 series is that Nvidia stopped supporting them last November. If a game runs poorly, you're out of luck because Nvidia only releases drivers to fix security vulnerabilities. No game improvements.

At least when I tested it, AMD's RX 400 and 500 series cards performed better in this game than their Nvidia equivalents.

With Forza Horizon 6, it's even worse. The game runs quite well with the minimum requirements, which is a GTX 1650, judging from videos. But the same can't be said for the hardware in my main PC. With a GTX 1060, the game runs fairly well on medium settings. But it crashes every so often. It usually happens within minutes when you reach Tokyo. This happens to a lot of people with the GTX 1000 series, and even with the GTX 1080 Ti. They say this is fixed with the latest Nvidia drivers and is related to memory leaks. The fact is, there's no support for older Nvidia series, and the manufacturer warns that they don't provide support for those series. Only for those with Nvidia driver support.

Initially, the game wouldn't even start with my RX 570 because it requires at least DirectX 12.1, and older RX cards only support DirectX 12.0.

I found a fix online, and now the game works. However, it forced me to install a 2023 driver and open a file before launching the game, otherwise it wouldn't work. Even so, the game doesn't run perfectly on low settings and performs worse than a GTX 1650, which is supposedly inferior.

A couple of weeks ago, I asked if it was worth replacing these two cards and buying something similar with better support. I was told it would be a waste of money. But I see that's not the case. A consumer with the awful RX 6500 XT 4GB can play the game quite decently. On the other hand, someone with a 1080 Ti, which delivers high FPS, experiences crashes every few minutes with no magic solution.

I've passed up a few GTX 1660s thinking it was silly or because I didn't want to spend more money. But that was a mistake. Many people have older graphics cards and sometimes want to play modern games on them but can't. That's why you shouldn't dismiss the fact that older cards don't support certain technologies.

I don't know what's wrong, but sometimes it takes up to 30 seconds for videos to load. I have 300 Mbps symmetrical fiber optic internet, and it feels like I'm using my phone.

I've turned off ambient lighting and volume, but the problem persists. When I press play, a wheel just spins in the background like it's buffering. But this takes a long time. It used to be almost instantaneous.

What can I do?

Many people still have them or want to buy them for several reasons. They are very common on the used market. Secondly, they are the cheapest way to get a card with 8GB of VRAM. Thirdly, there's the price. For around $50, or sometimes even less, you can get a card with 8GB of VRAM and good performance for the price.

Their problems, to put it simply, are two. First, their drivers are almost legacy. New drivers are released every few months, but they aren't the official ones. This means they don't fix performance issues in games, and in some cases, you'll get a "drivers disabled" warning. The unofficial drivers are even older than the official ones.

Second, and most importantly, they don't properly support DirectX 12. Microsoft released DirectX 12 with different API levels:

Version 11.0, which supported the GTX 600 and 700 series.

Versions 11.1 and 11.2, which supported the first AMD HD 7000/R7/R9 series.

Version 12.0, which supported the first AMD R7 260X/R9 390 series and the RX 400/500 series.

Version 12.1, which was supported by Nvidia's GTX 900/1000 series and AMD's RX 5000 series.

Version 12.2, which is supported by Nvidia's Turing series (RTX 2000 series) and AMD's RX 6000 series and later.

The RX 400/500 series only support DirectX 12 level 12.0. Many current games require at least DirectX 12.1.

More and more games run on a GTX 1050 Ti, but not on an RX 580 8GB, which is a better card. Examples:

Spiderman 2 crashes after a short time and can't be played for long.

Crimson Desert

Final Fantasy VI

The new Forza Horizon 6

There are more games that don't even start. Not to mention others that require ray tracing, which also don't work on GTX 1000 or RX 5000 series cards.

If someone needs to buy something cheap, the best option is to go for Nvidia's Turing series. They still have driver support and support DirectX 12 Ultimate. While a GTX 1650 doesn't support ray tracing, you can run games like the new Doom or Final Fantasy VII Rebirth by applying a mod to disable ray tracing. This doesn't happen with cards from previous series.

At worst, rather than a Turing series card, I'd go for a GTX 1060 6GB, which will be able to run more recent games than an RX 580 8GB, and they cost about the same. At least in my country.

I say this because I have several cards at home. Two of them are an RX 570 4GB mini and an RX 460 4GB. With these cards, I'll be relegated to older games, Linux, or emulators. But I won't be able to stretch them to run newer games.

It's a shame because the AMD RX 6400/6500 XT, which perform poorly in PCIe 3.0, can at least run all kinds of games, unlike the RX 400/500 series, which can perform the same or better.

They've been doing it for a long time. You have to go back to the 8000 GT series or so to see that this isn't a regular occurrence. But back then, a GPU would become obsolete in two years because the changes between series were so significant.

AMD, on the other hand, while it does have models with low VRAM, generally offered a more balanced performance.

But here's Nvidia's trap. Later, you could find certain models with more VRAM, but they were more expensive. They had versions with double the VRAM, like the GTX 570/580/GTX 660/70/80, etc. But people didn't buy them because they were more expensive. So later, in the second-hand market, you only saw the models with less VRAM.

Let's analyze the mid-range models from before Nvidia:

GTX 660 2GB

GTX 760 2GB

GTX 960 2GB

Three generations and the same VRAM. And the GTX 660 was worse, a rip-off with its asymmetric memory. 1.5GB fast and 0.5GB slow, which could cause stuttering when accessing the slower segment.

AMD, on the other hand, did have models with more VRAM, like the famous R9 390/X with 8GB. Or standardizing 8GB in the famous RX 570/580 Polaris series.

Although they also copied this in the low-end, imitating Nvidia.

Versions with more VRAM age better in the long run. For example, a GTX 960 4GB isn't very good these days. But it allows you to play games like Resident Evil Requiem or the new Forza Horizon 6 using FSR and framegeneration. The 2GB versions perform much worse because 2GB is insufficient for those kinds of games.

Nvidia provides better driver support than AMD. We've seen models like the GTX 750 Ti that had drivers for over 11 years. But what good is this support if their graphics cards are ultimately only useful for esports because they were released with limited VRAM?

Nvidia reminds me of Apple or Samsung, where upgrading to a model with more capacity costs you an arm and a leg.

Upgrading to a model with more VRAM is either very expensive or forces you to move up a segment. The perfect example is the RTX 5060 Ti 8GB.

In the future, we'll see many of these used cards and few 16GB ones because the former sold better due to price and availability. But it'll be the same as with the GTX 960. Nobody wants the 2GB ones.

Buying new components might be worse now if you need a new PC. But I remember the Ethereum crisis, which was much worse than this.

Around that time, I was going through a rough patch and sold some of my modern gear because I was experiencing the typical gaming slump that many people suffer after 30.

I already had some AM4 components that I sold, and I initially kept a quad-core i5 and a GT 1030, which I later sold, ending up with an R7 240 1GB GDDR5.

Well, months later, things got really bad. I felt like playing games that had just been released or that I had been meaning to play. But the market was devastated.

In my country, a GTX 750 Ti 2GB, which before that sold for €35, suddenly cost €100. The same went for cards like the GTX 660, etc., which were already outdated. Anything with 2GB of VRAM cost at least €100. Forget about the 4GB versions. A used 1050 Ti 4GB cost at least €200, which is what they cost new, and it was already an old model. Versions with more than 4GB were out of the question because they cost a fortune and were almost all going to miners.

In stores, I remember seeing that many shops had no cards in stock, and the few they had were for building PCs from scratch. I remember seeing RTX 3070s for €1400 in a couple of stores, and some sellers were listing an RTX 3090 for €4000.

I managed to survive until 2022 with 1GB VRAM cards because they were the only ones that were reasonably priced without being ripped off.

I remember the spectacle of so many people having to stretch their old GTX 970s to play new games like Cyberpunk 2077. Others bought PCs from scratch without integrated graphics and couldn't even finish them because they didn't have a graphics card. And still others had their graphics cards break and had to buy a GT 1030 for €100.

Anything with integrated graphics was ridiculously expensive. AMD APUs with Vega graphics cost a fortune. The Athlon 3000G processors simply disappeared from the market, and people had to buy the "-f" versions from Intel because the regular versions cost €60 more for a UHD 630 that was practically useless.

I managed to survive until the end of 2022 with 1GB graphics cards. When the Ethereum bubble burst, nothing was ever the same again. I could only afford 2GB graphics cards at 2019 prices. But the 4GB ones were far too expensive, even though they didn't perform well.

RTX 3000 series cards in stores never dropped to their pre-bubble minimum price, and Nvidia announced the RTX 4000 series shortly after, which were even more expensive than their predecessors.

Those two years of hardware crisis were the worst I've ever experienced, as you couldn't even buy a new console due to lack of stock. Those two years of stagnation meant that old hardware took a long time to depreciate. It's only now, after six more years, that graphics cards that cost €400 back then are selling for €50.

While the RAM crisis affects more components than before, I haven't had any problems buying second-hand hardware, unlike what happened in 2020/22. I even bought an RX 6600 8GB for my gaming PC, something unthinkable back then.

Many people here stress-test them, replace the thermal paste, and that's about it. I'm referring to the physical condition.

I think it's important, but I could be wrong. If the card's PCB is new and the same color as when you bought it, it hasn't seen much actual use.

On the other hand, if it has stains in some areas, is discolored, or even has orange-tinted resistors, it has seen a lot of use. This information about the PCB is like the wrinkles on a person's face.

Example of a PCB in perfect condition:

https://preview.redd.it/2u96uisvq40h1.jpg?width=4021&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6abdc15b6f2311a9922188fd4bc72b177d68c517

Heavy use:

https://preview.redd.it/koxyzisvq40h1.jpg?width=1446&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d4d9f9a3998bfb8b5185f445c7f5a2039721a761

The first is a GTX 1650 and the second a GTX 1070. The GTX 1070's PCB appears to be in worse condition.

Some might think this doesn't matter, but I think it does. A PCB in worse condition implies that the GPU has been operating at higher temperatures for a long time. It's possible that in the future, some part of the circuitry could fail and the card could stop working.

Is this true?

Que dejen poner más de 10 imágenes en cada artículo

Poner más caracteres para escribir en los anuncios. Si vendes lotes no puedes describir bien los artículos

Que desactiven la IA por defecto. Yo la tengo desactivada, pero la mayoría no porque viene de serie. Hay anuncios mal redactados o incorrectos debido a la IA que rellena los anuncios. Hay gente que ha abierto disputa por venir otro artículo diferente.

Más promociones para fomentar ventas. Vinted a veces da envíos gratis o casi gratis. Además en vendedores nuevos suele promocionarles el envío para fomentar la primera venta. Wallapop lleva tiempo que si da un código es sólo para cuatro gatos. Para los puntos hay que vender/comprar mucho para que te salga un envío gratis

Que los artículos vendidos salgan de la vista de la gente. Esto hace que se promocione vendedores que rompan tratos porque otro les ofrece más o pesados que preguntan si sigue disponible, aunque el artículo esté camino al comprador. A su vez que creen un apartado para buscar artículos vendidos. Así se puede ver el precio medio de venta (como tiene ebay).

Activar cosas de los vendedores profesionales a los particulares. Rebajas temporales, promocionar envíos gratis o lotes de un anuncio con stock. Cosa que sólo dejan si pagas la membresía pro

Son muy exigentes con los artículos considerados "prohibidos". Te tumban hasta vendiendo una mini consola china. En cambio hay falsificaciones o réplicas que reportando no hacen nada.

Los reportes. No puedes escribir explicando el problema y a veces no puedes ni reportar una estafa porque no aparece en las opciones para reportar dicha estafa.

Que no baneen a la gente que abusa de los tags para salir en las búsquedas y los artículos a 1€

Soporte lento e ineficiente muchas veces

Los estados de los artículos. Si no filtras por estado, no aparece el estado debajo del nombre del artículo como sí se ve en vinted o ebay en el muro general. Esto hace que se te cuelen muchos artículos roto y que no ves hasta pinchar en los anuncios. Esto hace que el algoritmo me recomiende siempre artículos rotos

Seguramente me deje más cosas. Les he mandado en ocasiones sugerencias. Lo único que aplicaron fue poner la opción de marcar artículos con envío. Cosa que antes no dejaba al entrar en una categoría.

Last November, I switched from an 1155 socket to an 1150 socket to keep my DDR3 memory and use AVX2 instructions for gaming. However, after experiencing performance issues, I opted for DDR4 for better compatibility despite the price. The local market is struggling to find affordable Ryzen AM4 bundles; many options consist of A320M motherboards with low-end processors like the Ryzen 2200G and Athlon 3000G, while B350 or B450 bundles rarely include the Ryzen 2600 at reasonable prices. Individual motherboards are expensive; used A520M boards sell for around €40-45 plus shipping, and typically don't include RAM unless the price is significantly higher.

The current trend favors selling components separately for higher profits, rather than offering complete, marketable units. Bundles that include a Ryzen 3600, a B450 motherboard, and RAM for around €100-120 are rare. I find it finds it more practical to buy the components separately, although this carries the risk of compatibility issues between the RAM, motherboard, and CPU chosen. The newer Ryzen 4500 and 5500 series processors, considered improved versions of the Ryzen 3600, represent another option, although many B450 motherboards are not compatible with PCIe 4.0, a feature of the Ryzen 3600.

Currently, I have an H110M motherboard with an i7 6700 for €50 and an additional motherboard for €25. My gaming PC, with an i5 8500 and an H310M motherboard, cost me less than €40. Regarding RAM, I've been buying inexpensive 2400 MHz and 2666 MHz modules for around €15-20 for 8 GB. Recently, I purchased a bundle that included an H410M motherboard and an i3 10100-F for about €65. While Intel bundles are more accessible and cheaper, they lack some of the advantages of a robust AM4 motherboard, especially since Ryzen processors are sensitive to RAM speed and 3200 MHz modules are expensive.

The same applies to AMD graphics cards: The rising prices of AMD graphics cards, with the RX 5500 XT approaching the price of an RTX 2060, indicates a worrying trend similar to that in the processor market. If this situation persists, I'm considering abandoning the AM4 socket for future configurations, weighing the performance of the i5 8500 against its low overall system cost.

Es de lo peor que pudo implementar wallapop. 4 fotos mal hechas y wallapop rellena el resto donde no sirve de nada o incluso es peor al confundir diferentes modelos.

La realidad es que prefería lo de antes. Al menos el comprador tenía que escribir algo en la descripción o no le dejaba publicar el tema. Ahora veo que esto empieza a ser muy habitual y un no go de manual. Ves algo que te puede interesar y ves que son fotos mal hechas y la descripción de la IA. Como para fiarse de un vendedor que pasa ni de describir sus artículos.

Luego se quejarán de gente que son mareantes, pero la IA de wallapop ha destrozado la calidad de los anuncios.

Normalmente son cosas de electrónica e informática. El clásico es:

Vendo pc, placa base, tarjeta gráfica... Ya no tengo equipo para probarlo. Lo vendo para piezas.

El precio suele ser algo mayor que un producto roto, pero algo menos que un artículo usado.

Mi opinión es que seguramente haya mucho listillo que quiera encasquetar artículos rotos directamente. Si los vendieran como rotos no los venderían o les darían mucho menos.

Empieza a ser una epidemia porque veo lo mismo en vinted en vendedores internacionales.

Recuerdo que antes había vendedores honestos que decían que ya no pueden probarlo, pero si no funcionaba se lo podías devolver. Ahora lo tachan como para piezas para no tener ninguna capacidad de réplica.

I have several graphics cards in my main PC, which isn't my dedicated gaming PC. My gaming PC currently has an i5 8500, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and an RX 6600 8GB.

My main PC has an i7 6700, 16GB of DDR4 RAM, and several graphics cards that I've bought at bargain prices out of pure consumerism. But they're all old.

My main PC is for everyday use (internet, watching videos) plus emulation, indie games, and less demanding games because it's in a very small, almost ITX-sized case that doesn't allow for many upgrades. But it does take up little space and is easier to transport.

The most powerful cards I have in my main PC are an RX 570 Sapphire Pulse ITX 4GB and a KFA2 GTX 1060 6GB with two fans. Both work well because my main PC only has one PSU with a 6-pin connector.

Here's the problem and my dilemma. I'm seeing more and more games requiring recent drivers and DirectX 12 Ultimate. I don't have any problems with that with the 6600. But eventually, I'll even have to play indie games on my most powerful PC because they won't even run on my main one.

I've been thinking about upgrading my GTX 1060 6GB to a GTX 1650 or the Super because I'm seeing that games like Resident Evil Requiem, Pragmata, and Crimson Desert perform better than the GTX 1060 6GB. This is because there are no longer any new drivers for games on the GTX 1000 series, and the RX series is experiencing something similar. None of them work with DirectX 12 Ultimate.

My initial plan was to buy an RTX 3050 6GB, but they're very expensive, both new and used. I also can't use an 8-pin connector due to lack of space for cooling and having to change the power supply unit (PSU).

Another problem I have is that I also can't install all the games on my PC because of a lack of space on the SSDs I have. So sometimes I need to split them between both of them

Edit:386

Apparently, the videos I've been seeing of the GTX 1650 are of a rare model that came out with the TU106 chip, which is the same one used in the RTX 2060, and it consumes 90W. That model is similar to the GTX 1650 Super. Standard GDDR6 consumes around 75-80W, not 90W. GDDR5 is below 70W, but it also performs noticeably worse. For now, I'll stick with what I have unless I find a great deal or something similar.

I've seen a lot of people on the forum, myself and others, dismissing graphics cards from a few years ago. "Upgrade!" "That's ancient!" "What do you expect from a 10-year-old GPU?"

People still want to keep certain older series, and there's demand for them in the second-hand market because there hasn't been any progress in those segments.

For example:

RX 580 = RX 5500 XT = 6500 XT.

The difference is that the RX 580 8GB is cheaper and more readily available than the others. The 6500 XT performs terribly in PCIe 3.0, which is where that type of card would normally fit. Furthermore, it turns out that it was possible to buy an RX 500 series time trial for under $150.

In Nvidia:

GTX 1050 Ti > GTX 1650 > RTX 3050 6GB.

There is a performance improvement here, but at the cost of a significant price increase. The 1050 Ti cost around $160 when it was released. Prices went up over time, and the GTX 1650s followed suit.

Right now, there's nothing in the low-end or entry-level range that can replace those "10-year-old" cards.

It used to be the case. You could trade in an HD 7750 from 2012 and then in 2017 the RX 550, and the latter would be clearly better for a similar price. That's no longer the case.

AMD hasn't released an RX 7030, nor has Nvidia released a GT 5030 that can replace the performance of those older cards for around $80. If they did, it would be like the Fermi or Terascale series, which nobody wants for years.

The RX 400/500 and GTX 1000 series were excellent, offering great value for money or a good price-to-performance ratio. From there, things only got worse.

That's why in markets like Brazil, India, etc., people are still buying RX 580 8GB cards for $50. Aside from esports and indie games, it can still run games with Unreal Engine 5 like Silent Hill.

Nvidia isn't interested in selling cards below $500. That's why they incentivize you to spend much more, even if you're not demanding.

AMD does the same thing, and it's because they want to force people to switch to their APUs.

Not content with this, developers are killing support for these cards, forcing users to have recently released drivers and requiring features like mesh shaders and mandatory ray tracing.