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I know alot of people believe DM is involved. People think BK is innocent or had an accomplice.

I’m not refuting any of that but am looking for any evidence that points to BK being innocent and/or another person being involved.

Comments saying “DM did it cause she waited 8 hours to call the cops” don’t really prove anything. Yes that’s suspicious, but not really proof of anything.

Can anyone share facts or evidence of why they think BK may be innocent?

I want to preface that I don’t think Dylan or Bethany were/are involved in the murder. But here are the things I find really suspect:

Dylan hears someone scream “someone’s in here” and run down the stairs. She hears crying or whimpering. She hears commotion upstairs before the running. She hears someone “in a weird tone” say ‘I’m here to help you.’ She sees a masked man leaving the house. All these things on their own in a party house may be whatever - but all together? Very indicative that SOMETHING bad is happening. Someone crying after a night of drinking is enough for me to check up on them, wouldn’t want them to drunk text an ex or do something they regret.

They would have heard Murphy, or atleast Dylan because he was only one floor above her. He was barking up a storm so they had to have an inkling something was wrong. He continued barking after BK left the house.

Dylan is SO afraid that she doesn’t want to be alone. But instead of staying in a locked room - 6 minutes after seeing a masked man, she goes DOWNSTAIRS into the basement to be with Bethany. Arguably the worst place in the house to go because you’re essentially trapped. She also had a room on the main floor - why not step outside your window and run outside? Why exit your room so quick not knowing if someone else is in the house or hiding downstairs? The last place I would want to go is the basement. Why not ask Bethany to come UPSTAIRS?

Dylan sees Xana lying on the floor in an open room. Why not go in her room? Why risk going DOWN STAIRS? Why not go upstairs into KG or MM room? Bethany’s room was the furthest for her to go to. I know BF was the only one replying but if Xanas room was open, idk why she wouldn’t go in there.

And in the morning - they go upstairs to exit the house. From my understanding there’s no way they could have gone from the basement to directly outside. If you’re already on the main floor, why not have a quick peek in Xanas room? They would have seen the door half or partially open, that would’ve made me think “ok everything’s cool let me just go say good morning for piece of mind”

The house was also completely quiet at this point - aside from Murphy if he was making noise. It’s light outside and 10AM. Why not just both go upstairs and check out the roommates rooms together? I don’t understand this at all. If none of your roommates are awake at 11am after a heavy night of drinking — is that really that suspicious?

Something I never hear anyone mention is the fact that Hunter took a knife with him. The roommates were so afraid at that point that they believed Hunter might need a weapon to defend himself — but weren’t afraid enough to stay in the basement? Not afraid enough to call the cops?

I think Dylan saw and heard a lot more than we will ever know. This is speculative theory but I think she believed maybe KG was getting assaulted. I don’t think she thought a murder took place but I do think she believed someone was getting hurt upstairs or on her floor. Maybe she didn’t want to be next and thought being with BF downstairs would deter a perpetrator.

Nothing makes sense about any of this behaviour. I’ve been 19 and blacked out drunk before and when you hear a scream or all this other weird shit, your adrenaline starts going and you sober up to a certain extent. And this was November. These girls had been at the house drinking every weekend since August atleast - are we really going to believe that their alcohol tolerance was that low? Dylan also came home at 1 AM and said she fell asleep and woke up to the commotion (though phone data disputes this) Even if she fell asleep at 2AM for 2 hours - that’s still a good amount of time to sober up to a certain extent.

Why did BK do all of these things?

BK starts circling the neighbourhood around 3:30AM. Presumably waiting for the lights to all shut off - he does 4 passes, the third pass was 3:56AM - 3:58AM. Xana gets her DD around 4am (presumably BK misses the DD driver dropping off the food while doing the 4th pass). He does his 4th pass at 4:06am when he observes all the lights are off and plans to enter the home. He enters around 4:10am. My question is - **why do you think he entered the house so soon after seeing the lights off?** He didn’t know how many people were awake at the time of the lights being on. 10 minutes is a short amount of time to wait to enter and someone/multiple people easily could have still been awake which would make BKs plan significantly harder.

BKs phone is reported being at his house at 2:42AM and is powered off around 2:47AM when he’s on the go. **Why do you think he left his house at this time?** **What triggered him?** It’s about a 25 minute drive per maps and he’s first seen in the neighbourhood around 3:30AM. **What was he doing for the unaccounted 15 minutes?** **Was his intention to kill that night or to stalk?** **If his intention was to simply stalk - what do you think changed his mind to kill?**

November 13 is a Sunday and the murders took place during early hours of this day. Using the (silly) argument that it’s not a new day until you go to sleep and wake up again - let’s say this is Saturday night. **Why this day?** **Why a Saturday night when people are partying?** Their home was known as a party house - BK didn’t know who would be in the house on this day. **Why take the risk of having additional individuals in the home?** If Maddie was the alleged target - why not wait when she’s home alone?

BK starts circling the neighbourhood around 3:30AM. Presumably waiting for the lights to all shut off - he does 4 passes, the third pass was 3:56AM - 3:58AM. Xana gets her DD around 4am (presumably BK misses the DD driver dropping off the food while doing the 4th pass). He does his 4th pass at 4:06am when he observes all the lights are off and plans to enter the home. He enters around 4:10am. My question is - why do you think he entered the house so soon after seeing the lights off? He didn’t know how many people were awake at the time of the lights being on. 10 minutes is a short amount of time to wait to enter and someone/multiple people easily could have still been awake which would make BKs plan significantly harder.

BKs phone is reported being at his house at 2:42AM and is powered off around 2:47AM when he’s on the go. Why do you think he left his house at this time? What triggered him? It’s about a 25 minute drive per maps and he’s first seen in the neighbourhood around 3:30AM. What was he doing for the unaccounted 15 minutes? Was his intention to kill that night or to stalk? If his intention was to simply stalk - what do you think changed his mind to kill?

November 13 is a Sunday and the murders took place during early hours of this day. Using the (silly) argument that it’s not a new day until you go to sleep and wake up again - let’s say this is Saturday night. Why this day? Why a Saturday night when people are partying? Their home was known as a party house - BK didn’t know who would be in the house on this day. Why take the risk of having additional individuals in the home? If Maddie was the alleged target - why not wait when she’s home alone?

I’m getting married next year and will be having a handful of “bridesmaids.” In our culture we don’t typically have bridesmaids, so it’s more of a bride squad.

The only requirement of them is to wear an outfit of their choice in the color provided. This is a traditional outfit and all my friends are from the culture except one, and the color is a very common color. For reference, most of them likely already have an outfit this color in their closet, or it is very easy to find in all price ranges where we live.

I’m not requiring them to get their hair and makeup done or have a specific pair of shoes or anything like that. For all the other events aside from the wedding, they can wear any outfits they’d like whether they are traditional or western.

I’m struggling what to get them for bridesmaids gifts. I’ve been a bridesmaid before and ended up with a bunch of junk that I don’t really end up using. I also don’t know if a bridesmaid gift is necessary in my case since they’re not “technically” bridesmaids and I’m not asking much of them. I don’t want to gift something that they won’t even use. I could pay for their outfits but I would probably get them custom made then for ease and have them all wearing the same thing which they likely won’t rewear and I also think matching outfits is a bit tacky (just personal opinion).

Any thoughts?

Looking for tips on how to cut down my wedding costs. I already have done the following:

* Planning to host all pre events at home.
* Cut down the guest list to 150-170. Not inviting random rishtedaar or 2nd cousins I’m not close with.
* My cousin is a HMUA and is planning to do all my pre event looks for free!

I never wanted a traditional wedding but am being guilted into it by my parents, so I’ve obliged. They’re footing the bill but I’d like to still keep things reasonable.

Where else can I cut down costs? Any tips? Anything to avoid?

I vividly remember a Punjabi program, airing on Sundays that was hosted by 2-3 younger Punjabi men in their 20s or 30s. They had a segment which was “pet peeve of the week” where they made skits of things desi’s typically do and then the host would give a tip of the week of how to correct the behaviour.

For example, I remember one was that desi’s say no to food at other peoples houses and then complain they weren’t fed. The tip was to say no once to be polite if you’d like, and then accept what they’re offering. I think the hosts name was Jassa or something.

I remmeber it was the only Punjabi program my siblings and I liked watching lol. Think we need to bring something like that back - it taught basic etiquette that a lot of desi’s lacked. Curious if anyone remembers it!