
Paula Barbieri Interview in Chicago to promote 'The Other Woman: My Years With O.J. Simpson'
From Richard Roeper (https://www.facebook.com/RichardERoeper):
The success of "The People v. OJ Simpson" has me digging through old files for pics and columns from my time covering the trial and the aftermath. Recently I found a picture of my interview with OJ's girlfriend, Paula Barbieri, who had once again become his EX-girlfriend by the time we talked in Chicago.
Here's the column:
Paula Barbieri is in Chicago to promote The Other Woman: My Years With O.J. Simpson, and she wants a hot dog.
It's 11 o'clock in the morning, but hey, sure, why not. I suggest Gold Coast Dogs -- a good mile south of the hotel but probably the nearest and best wiener haven. Because it's such a gorgeous day we decide we'll take a walk.
The statuesque, thin and oddly famous Barbieri swivels a number of heads as we make our way down State Street. At least one gawker is heard to say "Julia" to his companion; I guess he thinks she's Julia Roberts.
She talks about how much she likes "Seinfeld" and how her male friends are in love with the Elaine character. The relationship patter leads to a story about a girlfriend of Barbieri's who was devastated after a broken engagement.
"I cheered her up by saying, 'It could be worse -- look at me,' " says Barbieri.
Good point. O.J. Simpson is pretty much the poster man for ex-boyfriends you'd like to forget.
We sidestep construction pits and weave our way through buses and cabs. Barbieri asks about those "famous mints you get at Marshall Field's" (Frango) and stops to ponder a number of sights, including a stuffed doggie in a store window that reminds her of her terriers, a bar where the customers are indulging in late-morning Boilermakers -- and an alley, crowded with dumpsters and gruel.
"Look at that, a genuine Chicago alley. Never saw one of those before."
Our arrival at Gold Coast causes a minor stir, but Barbieri pretends not to notice. She orders a couple of char-dogs piled high with extras, and we find a table so we can talk. (The tape recorder is turned off while she says grace.)
Q. You said for a long time you weren't going to cash in and do a book, so what changed your mind?
A. There were so many different reasons, really. In my church group I was encouraged to write a spiritual journal, and in doing that I realized there was so much I still needed to sort out. And there were so many different perspectives that were out there, I wanted to give my perspective. Here I was in this terrible relationship and I couldn't let go. So many other people are in those kinds of relationships, you say goodbye so many times but you can't walk away. I'd been offered money by the tabloids and things like that but I never wanted the money from something like that.
Q. Let's set aside O.J.'s innocence or guilt . . .
A. OK great! Sounds good to me.
Q. Well, you're not going to come right out and say he did it -- but you obviously have your doubts. But I'm reading your book and I'm reading about the day you met him, and he had another woman stashed upstairs that day. Throughout your relationship he's lying to you, he's setting up schemes to be with other women, he's losing his temper. He comes across as a sexist creep and a pathological liar, so how did you fall so deeply in love with him?
A. I don't know how many other people are out there who have had those kind of relationships where, rather than place the blame on the person, you place the blame somehow on yourself. Maybe that's part of my personality, maybe I'm trying to somehow make everything all right by turning it around on myself. Even throughout the trial I'd say, "I shouldn't have questioned that, I'm sure he had a good reason."
Q. On June 12, 1994, you were in Las Vegas with Michael Bolton. But after you heard the news of the murders, Bolton doesn't exactly come across as a knight in shining armor, either. He basically said, "This is too huge for me," and sent you on your way.
A. I don't blame him at all for saying that. He was in the media, he knew what it would be like. I was saying, "'Oh, I can handle this,"' and he said, "'You have no idea."' He was right. Looking back, I wish I could have had a longer conversation with (Michael) about that.
Q. You know, most relationships tend to go bad when the guy is in jail while on trial for double murder, but yours actually got stronger. That probably should have told you something, eh?
A. Let me tell you what my mother said about that: "Well honey, look at it this way: At least you know where he is tonight."
Q. In the meantime you were becoming more famous than you ever could have hoped for as an actress or a model.
A. Yes. I had always had this big goal of winning an Academy Award -- but when I talked about that with my minister it was really a turning point because I realized how empty that was to have that as a big goal. So in a way I'm really grateful for all this because of what it taught me. I'm not saying you can't be a Christian in Hollywood but it's (much harder) than where I'm living (in Panama City, Fla.) now.
Q. You're on a 10-city tour to promote this book, but when it's over is it your goal to go back to a private life away from the lights and cameras?
A. That would be nice. I'd like to do something with kids, something to make a difference. It's not like I want to go out and save the world but I want to do something that makes a difference -- and you know, find that guy that's out there scratching his head, saying, "Why does she keep picking idiots?" And when I find him we can have lots of babies.
Q. That's a tough thing for a guy, to ask O.J.'s ex-girlfriend for a date.
A. The first date I had was eight months after the trial was over and O.J. was gone. I felt, "Who would want to date me?" I felt so ugly, I felt like I had a disease. I couldn't imagine anyone wanting to ask me out. But it would say a lot about a guy if he had the courage to ask me out.
Q. Do you still trust your instincts when it comes to men?
A. I hope I can read people a little better now. With O.J., when he was out of jail and he was selling stories to tabloids, it was not the same person who was reading Psalms in jail. When I confronted him with the story that he sold (to the tabloids) speculating that we were getting married, he said, "My mama read that and she thinks it's great," and I said, "Well, marry your mama then." And he got so angry then. I started thinking, if he's this way now, imagine what it would be like if we were married. These days I'm trying to follow the ways of Abraham, I'm really trying not to take things into my own hands, I'm trying to be patient, you know? Because I can make a big mess of things on my own.
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