u/grimyloop

Hi peeps I'm looking for a distor/fuzz pedal to be able to play extended chords in jazz and solos and also post-hardcore kind of voicings, for example. Something in the middle, that defines the voicings but ideally not sounding too digital.

I already have the Blues Driver BD-2. I had a look at the Tube Screamer, Boss Adaptive Distortion, Empress Fuzz, and the Proco RAT which is also used by Scofield, for example.

Any ideas welcome!

There was a David Bowie quote on this. I've seen the ones with eyeliner but haven't seen the more gothy protopunky ones with nail polish.

I have the CD from the OG a while back but not with me now. I got Repented on vinyl and was surprise how good it sounds specially in comparison with the Spotify version for example. I like the record on vinyl but don't like it on streaming.
I played CYB OG on streaming vs the Repented vinyl and it was an impressive comparison to be honest.
Has anyone compared the vinyl versions? I'm sure CYB OG sounds better now repressed in vinyl than in streaming, but it's making me curious as I'm a CYB OG person 100%, I just got into Repented after listening on vinyl to be honest it's much more well balanced.

I personally think the original fits my taste better. The main reasons:

1.- An organic, real drum kit gives more depth to the musicality and is not a wall of undynamic drum sounds that, summed with compression, ends up being all really flat. I appreciate the first impression is a powerful slap, but the slap doesn't breathe and becomes tiring after a while. Being the drums so tight on the grid, it also doesn't feel like there's a natural swing and urgency to the music that really adds up so much (think jazz, for example). I also appreciate it's more mechanical and thus more industrial sounding, which is an interesting alternative nevertheless! For me, a natural drum kit, without a tight grid, would have made the mix and musicality much better.

2.- The voice in the original sounds so visceral, like early black metal stuff that I like. But I do like the production of it now and also like the style in which it's a bit buried between the instruments, like another instrument in itself. It may have also been a mixing technique if Oli wasn't comfortable with the way he was sounding out of the old comfort zone and was trying not to damage his voice.

3.- Being a guitarist myself, I would have liked to have a higher level on the guitars also. I feel some of the best elements in the record are the guitar riffs and would like to have them still almost up front.

Other than that, I like the crunchiness in the OG version, but agree there's a better stereo image in this one, definitely. Although older black metal and death metal would also stay mainly mono-oriented because the amount of low frequencies makes the punch better.

In general, I think it's a super interesting approach. It's definitely more bionic sounding and brutal, but I like the warmth of the OG also. I believe these inconsistencies make up a more "organic" (for lack of a better term) or natural flow when one goes listening to the music (think jazz). It has its own microcosms of rhythm, while, on the other hand, sticking to a grid and a limited dynamic for the drum sounds makes everything extremely tight and the rhythm feels a bit forced.

I still believe it's an amazing thing to have it remade! Would love some live version at one point because that's what I like ;) Live music! Haha. But I think this other perspective is also cool. I, as a fan of Bathory, punk, and music that, by modern production standards, would sound like shit, like the uniqueness of a sonic print that makes albums cult classics. Many say metalcore was sounding like that before... and I remember that to be true. They had drums that sounded a bit semi-programmed there, and of course the St. Anger snare, but IMO they worked well because they were more a result of drum replacement than just grid MIDI programming.

That all said, it's an amazing take and I, of course, will get a copy :)