u/jjfmish

I know this is more of a Kibbe sub but I still think this would be an interesting discussion to have here. Imo both systems have their place and their individual appeal will vary. I have my praise and criticisms for both systems but I’m only verified in Kitchener.

What I find most interesting is how these systems are conceptualized through the same framework (yin/yang and harmony-based styling) with the same influences, but often arrive at different conclusions. There is definitely some correlation but an equal amount of dissonance. The main reason is that, while body type and height will play into your Kitchener blend, these factors aren’t deterministic the way they are in Kibbe.

Here are my observations based on the celebrities verified in both systems:

- The vast majority of Kibbe Rs, TRs, and SDs are R dominant in Kitchener as well

- This is opposite from the Kibbe Ns, who are represented across every dominant essence (especially FNs)

- Most Kibbe gamines do have significant HS/gamine essence but it won’t necessarily be dominant

- There is a high amount of Kibbe Cs with significant C essence but there also some with little to none (I know a verified DC client with only 10% Kitchener C)

- Scale and height determine yin vs yang in Kibbe while in Kitchener it just shifts percentages - being 5’7 + will give you an extra 10% of Natural, Dramatic, or Angelic essence (since they are the elongating essences), but you can still have a small scale dominant essence while being tall

I work in a male dominated finance adjacent field in a sales role so naturally most of my young male coworkers are exactly what you’d expect. Talking to them really makes me realize what a pop culture bubble I’m in because I thought people like that were Strawmen created by Faux moi.