u/meggiepathak

Hi all,

I had my lawyers draft my defence yday and they have used the following as defence and counterclaim:

- I was never given terms and conditions for the deposit when I moved in

- the prescribed information was never signed by the landlord or agent

- the first gas safety cert did not include the landlord address or agents address it had a line strike in the address box

- they never gave me the new “how to rent” that updated in 2023 - even in the claim bundle the old 2020 one was added

Do these reasons make a section 21 invalid?

Landlord used accelerated procedure.

Thanks in advance x

Hi everyone,

I’m looking for advice or experiences with an accelerated procedure possession claim - I am based in England, North London dealing with Edmonton County Court.

The claim was issued on 18 June 2026, and I’m planning to submit my defence on 1 July 2026.

I’m trying to understand:

•	How long it usually takes for the judge to review an accelerated claim after the defence is filed.

•	Whether the judge is likely to decide it on the papers or list a hearing.

•	If possession is granted, how long it typically takes before bailiffs attend if the tenant stays until enforcement.

My defence is based on the following:

•	I experienced seven separate carbon monoxide incidents in my flat caused by the restaurant directly below.

•	I repeatedly reported these incidents to the landlord and relevant authorities.

•	Before serving the Section 21, the landlord (through the letting agent) agreed to renew my tenancy at a higher rent. I accepted the increase, signed the renewal agreement, and returned it.

•	After I continued raising concerns about the carbon monoxide and fire safety issues, the landlord never signed the renewal and instead served a Section 21 notice as I complained again about the monoxide.

•	After the notice was served, I contacted the council again. They investigated and ultimately issued a prohibition order preventing the restaurant from operating because of serious safety concerns.

•	The landlord is also the landlord of the restaurant downstairs.

I’m also still living in the property because my partner and I were both made redundant and are now receiving Universal Credit. We’ve found it extremely difficult to secure another rental because many landlords won’t accept applicants in our financial situation, despite actively trying to move.

I appreciate some people may wonder why I’m still living there despite the carbon monoxide history. The reason is that the restaurant has now been shut down under the prohibition order, so the source of the carbon monoxide has been removed and the immediate safety risk is no longer present.

I’m interested in hearing whether people think these facts are likely to persuade a judge to list a hearing rather than deal with the case purely on the papers, and whether the previous agreement to renew and the subsequent safety issues are likely to carry much weight. I have literal emails stating “the landlord would like to proceed with a renewal I will send the documents shortly”. She sent the documents and I signed it. Landlord did not.

I’d also be interested in hearing from anyone who has experience of accelerated possession claims in North London and how long the process took from filing a defence through to any possession order or bailiff enforcement.

Thanks in advance for any insight.

Hi all, just looking for some advice here.

Of course I’m not trying to ask people to tell me if I’m going to be awarded, I’m just wondering on the likelihood due to my situation which I’ll describe just because I have no one that I know personally who has been through this process and I am in a major anxiety attack all evening over my tribunal over video call tomorrow.

I applied for PIP on the 8th of October 2024 for my conditions that I have which are PCOS but a very extreme version very similar to endometriosis, I have Asthma, RSI, kerotaconus and extreme anxiety and depression. As always I submitted my form with all my medicine my conditions my symptoms and I had my assessor call in November 2024. He pretty much lied in the whole report of what I said. He even said that I worked 45 hours a day, which is how I know he didn’t listen. He scored me 0 across the whole board. So I applied for a mandatory reconsideration which I had in Feb 2025 and I went from 0 points to 2 points.

I was still not happy with just the 2 points, but because I was awarded some points, I decided to take it to tribunal and just over a year later I have my tribunal date which ia tomorrow! In that last year I have submitted a few more pieces of evidence because my symptoms have gotten worse. I have started SSRIs aka sertraline and I have insured that my clinical history including that has been uploaded as evidence because I have actually gotten worse in the PCOS field and the anxiety and depression field.

I’m just wondering, based off being put on new medications within the timeframe of waiting for my tribunal is this going to have a positive effect on winning my case because I have not gotten better if anything I’ve gotten worse since I last applied in 2024.

Overall, I’m just wondering do the tribunal take it more seriously now that I have gotten worse my GP notes state that I have gotten worse. I’ve been put on antidepressants for the first time in my life due to not getting better. I’m still on a waiting list for talking therapies and in my area the waiting list is five months and whether or not there is a pass rate for winning cases at tribunal stage.

TIA x

Hello, can someone please assist me on this matter.

I have been unemployed since January due to redundancy so I claimed universal credit as have been unable to obtain a job since.

I was in receipt of my minimum amount given of 995£ an amount which includes my rent and standard allowance. I was receiving this every month from Feb 2026 onward, however in April I was told by my council that due to me caring for my partner who is on PIP, I can claim carers allowance. I did just that and I was awarded carer allowance of 334£ but has now been upped to 345.8£ a month (86.45£ a week). So I now get 345.8£ every 4 weeks and my UC which was 757.

Like said above, due to this new benefit my UC was deducted to 757 from 995 to reflect the carer allowance payment. However today, I have just recieved a letter to say I have been overpaid by 845.56£ and now all all my statements have been revised to show 634£ since Feb 2026 and it says on the letter they will now deduct the 845£ from my next statements (not sure if in instalments) or in 1 go. The overpayment is because carers allowance back paid me from January as I was entitled to carer allowance from Jan onwards.

The letter gave me the option to pay the 845£ but I do not have 845£ in my bank to pay this…

I am just unsure going forward how much I’ll be getting now on UC. I know I will still get the 345£ every 4 weeks but does anyone know the actual UC amount I will be getting now and how they will arrange the repayments? Please help in this situation!!!! Anxiety levels are at an all time high!

Thank you x

Hi all…

TLDR(issues with mother in law and sister in law ruining my mental health)

Wondering if anyone can share some advice with me; feeling super deflated about what I’m going to share:

I’ve been dating my partner now for about 8 years. His mother and I have been quite good, we started off bad (typical in law difficulties) but when me and my boyf moved in together me and her really grew close and became best of friends, literally she became my second mother.

In 2023, we, as a family found out her son (my boyf younger 16 year old brother) was expecting a baby with his gf. My mother in law didn’t take it well as it was a shock to all of us but we tried to make the gf (I will refer to her as L) welcome. As time went on L made herself known to be quite unstable and rude and very toxic. Constantly breaking up with my brother in law and making his life hell.

My mother in law grew to hate her for making bad blood between her and my brother in law and also turned me against L. After hearing the stuff L did to my brother in law and mother in law of course id dislike her?? List is endless so I won’t bother saying what she did. The main thing L didn’t do is put my bro in law on their son’s birth certificate. My mother in law told me this was her reason her main reason as to why she hates L, as it’s not fair only L is a named parent. The baby is both L and my bro in laws. My mother in law told me if L does not add him to the certificate she “won’t speak to L or her close friends (meaning me).

After the baby was born the drama continued, and eventually I fell out with L and my brother in law as my mother in law exposed messages of me saying I did not like L…I was barred from seeing my so called nephew and my mother in law tried to fix the situation. She did. We all forgave each other and made the family work as we had my mother in law bday coming up which we all were invited to. We had a lovely time, and I realised L wasn’t the person I’d thought she was. So I thought.

L and I added each other on socials and we grew close. My mother in law wanted this the most so we could all sit a table where we tolerated each other however… me and L grew closer than what my mother in law wanted I think. All of a sudden I was turned against, told how can I be so close to L when she ruined the family, ruined everyone, limits access to who sees her child and I was confused as I thought we had all put stuff behind us and moved on. So off I went to Dubai for my family holiday and whilst I was there my mother in law was apparently chatting shit about me, and L heard things and then told me as L had a new found loyalty to tell me things.

My mother in law came to my flat to see her son as she is allowed this home is her sons as well as mine but she asked for the indoor camera to be turned off so I didn’t see her in my home. I felt very violated and as I was 1000s of miles away she crossed a boundary. I completely cut ties with her and L and I bonded over how much stress our mother in law had given us. As time went on me and L became like sisters, always feeding each other’s thoughts on our mother in law and supporting one another. I cut contact completely with mother in law but L didn’t hold back with arguing with her so much so L had police called on her. This was a dark time and my mother in law had a lot to say about me: calling me Satan, demon, poisoning my boyf mind etc. She eventually kicked out my brother in law and L was forced to go to the council to find a flat for her the baby and my brother in law. I noticed my mother in law also cut contact with my boyf at times probably as he was siding with me.

Fast forward a few months…:

L had exposed a lot of my mother in law how she wasn’t genuine to me things she knows that hurt my feelings and made me hate my mother in law more. My mother in law tried to turn my boyf against me as well by telling him to move back home and messages were exchanged with my boyf and her which my brother in law saw and told me.

This situation caused the hugest shift and I need help as to if I’m being used as a scapegoat.

Jan 2026 my brother in law calls me as he noticed my boyf was being influenced by their mother to dislike all of us me L and my bro in law. I got involved too and I agree I shouldn’t but I noticed my boyf turning against us knowing his mother was the driving force and I told this to L and my bro in law. So much so that my bro in law calls me to tell me my boyf is going to leave me and that his mother is going to get a new flat for them to move into. I was shocked and I reacted by going silent, my boyf staying at his mums for the night. I went to L’s flat and they supported me and helped me I was so vulnerable in fear my boyf is moving back with his mother under her influence.

When I went to L’s, the argument continued and my mother in law was sending abusive texts to my bro in law about me and my bro in law and boyf had an argument too as my bro in law “exposed” my boyf and his convo’s with his mum. Mother in law was saying bad things about me switching sides being this being that: I never switched sides I just realised L was nicer than I thought and I never had proper beef with her. My mother in law didn’t like it point blank.

The next day I come to find out my bro in law lied about texts he saw and my boyf never said he’s moving out. As I was upset and angry at my bro in law for twisting things I did indeed come back home to my boyf and forgive him. L didn’t like it, told me she has to cut me off as our friendship will always “have links between your boyf and his mother” and so I said ok I agree we are done then. L wasn’t happy I agreed we should end our friendship, went straight to my mother in law home with her son (my mother in law grandchild) and exposed everything I’d said about my mother in law. I could not believe it.

I tried to speak to my mother in law to explain why I said things, how I was told by L things my mother in law said which is what shaped my opinion but my mother in law refused to speak to me and completely took L side. Now they are the bestest of friends, my mother in law now has access to her grandchild after so long but she forgot everything L did. L did many things: not put my bro in law on the birth certificate, lied about my mother in law being on a bus screaming at her which everyone believed at the time, and also made threats. But somehow my mother in law has forgiven her and still not allowed me to have my say??

My boyf isn’t doing much either: he still sees his mother which is fine but he doesn’t seem to be telling his mum to move forward with me. I asked her last week can we be civil and she said no as “I’m not genuine and she has seen patterns which she’s doesn’t like about me”. But SHE HASNT LET ME SPEAK. SHE IS HEARING ONE SIDE ONLY. L’s side. What do I do!!?? I don’t want to break up with my boyf but she’s still in my life because of him and she is ruining me. Why is no one supporting me???? I was shocked my bro in law did not do anything in my favour either.

Just needed some advice all, thanks in advance ;( x

Hi all…

TLDR(issues with mother in law and sister in law ruining my mental health)

Wondering if anyone can share some advice with me; feeling super deflated about what I’m going to share:

I’ve been dating my partner now for about 8 years. His mother and I have been quite good, we started off bad (typical in law difficulties) but when me and my boyf moved in together me and her really grew close and became best of friends, literally she became my second mother.

In 2023, we, as a family found out her son (my boyf younger 16 year old brother) was expecting a baby with his gf. My mother in law didn’t take it well as it was a shock to all of us but we tried to make the gf (I will refer to her as L) welcome. As time went on L made herself known to be quite unstable and rude and very toxic. Constantly breaking up with my brother in law and making his life hell.

My mother in law grew to hate her for making bad blood between her and my brother in law and also turned me against L. After hearing the stuff L did to my brother in law and mother in law of course id dislike her?? List is endless so I won’t bother saying what she did. The main thing L didn’t do is put my bro in law on their son’s birth certificate. My mother in law told me this was her reason her main reason as to why she hates L, as it’s not fair only L is a named parent. The baby is both L and my bro in laws. My mother in law told me if L does not add him to the certificate she “won’t speak to L or her close friends (meaning me).

After the baby was born the drama continued, and eventually I fell out with L and my brother in law as my mother in law exposed messages of me saying I did not like L…I was barred from seeing my so called nephew and my mother in law tried to fix the situation. She did. We all forgave each other and made the family work as we had my mother in law bday coming up which we all were invited to. We had a lovely time, and I realised L wasn’t the person I’d thought she was. So I thought.

L and I added each other on socials and we grew close. My mother in law wanted this the most so we could all sit a table where we tolerated each other however… me and L grew closer than what my mother in law wanted I think. All of a sudden I was turned against, told how can I be so close to L when she ruined the family, ruined everyone, limits access to who sees her child and I was confused as I thought we had all put stuff behind us and moved on. So off I went to Dubai for my family holiday and whilst I was there my mother in law was apparently chatting shit about me, and L heard things and then told me as L had a new found loyalty to tell me things.

My mother in law came to my flat to see her son as she is allowed this home is her sons as well as mine but she asked for the indoor camera to be turned off so I didn’t see her in my home. I felt very violated and as I was 1000s of miles away she crossed a boundary. I completely cut ties with her and L and I bonded over how much stress our mother in law had given us. As time went on me and L became like sisters, always feeding each other’s thoughts on our mother in law and supporting one another. I cut contact completely with mother in law but L didn’t hold back with arguing with her so much so L had police called on her. This was a dark time and my mother in law had a lot to say about me: calling me Satan, demon, poisoning my boyf mind etc. She eventually kicked out my brother in law and L was forced to go to the council to find a flat for her the baby and my brother in law. I noticed my mother in law also cut contact with my boyf at times probably as he was siding with me.

Fast forward a few months…:

L had exposed a lot of my mother in law how she wasn’t genuine to me things she knows that hurt my feelings and made me hate my mother in law more. My mother in law tried to turn my boyf against me as well by telling him to move back home and messages were exchanged with my boyf and her which my brother in law saw and told me.

This situation caused the hugest shift and I need help as to if I’m being used as a scapegoat.

Jan 2026 my brother in law calls me as he noticed my boyf was being influenced by their mother to dislike all of us me L and my bro in law. I got involved too and I agree I shouldn’t but I noticed my boyf turning against us knowing his mother was the driving force and I told this to L and my bro in law. So much so that my bro in law calls me to tell me my boyf is going to leave me and that his mother is going to get a new flat for them to move into. I was shocked and I reacted by going silent, my boyf staying at his mums for the night. I went to L’s flat and they supported me and helped me I was so vulnerable in fear my boyf is moving back with his mother under her influence.

When I went to L’s, the argument continued and my mother in law was sending abusive texts to my bro in law about me and my bro in law and boyf had an argument too as my bro in law “exposed” my boyf and his convo’s with his mum. Mother in law was saying bad things about me switching sides being this being that: I never switched sides I just realised L was nicer than I thought and I never had proper beef with her. My mother in law didn’t like it point blank.

The next day I come to find out my bro in law lied about texts he saw and my boyf never said he’s moving out. As I was upset and angry at my bro in law for twisting things I did indeed come back home to my boyf and forgive him. L didn’t like it, told me she has to cut me off as our friendship will always “have links between your boyf and his mother” and so I said ok I agree we are done then. L wasn’t happy I agreed we should end our friendship, went straight to my mother in law home with her son (my mother in law grandchild) and exposed everything I’d said about my mother in law. I could not believe it.

I tried to speak to my mother in law to explain why I said things, how I was told by L things my mother in law said which is what shaped my opinion but my mother in law refused to speak to me and completely took L side. Now they are the bestest of friends, my mother in law now has access to her grandchild after so long but she forgot everything L did. L did many things: not put my bro in law on the birth certificate, lied about my mother in law being on a bus screaming at her which everyone believed at the time, and also made threats. But somehow my mother in law has forgiven her and still not allowed me to have my say??

My boyf isn’t doing much either: he still sees his mother which is fine but he doesn’t seem to be telling his mum to move forward with me. I asked her last week can we be civil and she said no as “I’m not genuine and she has seen patterns which she’s doesn’t like about me”. But SHE HASNT LET ME SPEAK. SHE IS HEARING ONE SIDE ONLY. L’s side. What do I do!!?? I don’t want to break up with my boyf but she’s still in my life because of him and she is ruining me. Why is no one supporting me???? I was shocked my bro in law did not do anything in my favour either.

Just needed some advice all, thanks in advance ;( x

Hi all…

TLDR(issues with mother in law and sister in law ruining my mental health)

Wondering if anyone can share some advice with me; feeling super deflated about what I’m going to share:

I’ve been dating my partner now for about 8 years. His mother and I have been quite good, we started off bad (typical in law difficulties) but when me and my boyf moved in together me and her really grew close and became best of friends, literally she became my second mother.

In 2023, we, as a family found out her son (my boyf younger 16 year old brother) was expecting a baby with his gf. My mother in law didn’t take it well as it was a shock to all of us but we tried to make the gf (I will refer to her as L) welcome. As time went on L made herself known to be quite unstable and rude and very toxic. Constantly breaking up with my brother in law and making his life hell.

My mother in law grew to hate her for making bad blood between her and my brother in law and also turned me against L. After hearing the stuff L did to my brother in law and mother in law of course id dislike her?? List is endless so I won’t bother saying what she did. The main thing L didn’t do is put my bro in law on their son’s birth certificate. My mother in law told me this was her reason her main reason as to why she hates L, as it’s not fair only L is a named parent. The baby is both L and my bro in laws. My mother in law told me if L does not add him to the certificate she “won’t speak to L or her close friends (meaning me).

After the baby was born the drama continued, and eventually I fell out with L and my brother in law as my mother in law exposed messages of me saying I did not like L…I was barred from seeing my so called nephew and my mother in law tried to fix the situation. She did. We all forgave each other and made the family work as we had my mother in law bday coming up which we all were invited to. We had a lovely time, and I realised L wasn’t the person I’d thought she was. So I thought.

L and I added each other on socials and we grew close. My mother in law wanted this the most so we could all sit a table where we tolerated each other however… me and L grew closer than what my mother in law wanted I think. All of a sudden I was turned against, told how can I be so close to L when she ruined the family, ruined everyone, limits access to who sees her child and I was confused as I thought we had all put stuff behind us and moved on. So off I went to Dubai for my family holiday and whilst I was there my mother in law was apparently chatting shit about me, and L heard things and then told me as L had a new found loyalty to tell me things.

My mother in law came to my flat to see her son as she is allowed this home is her sons as well as mine but she asked for the indoor camera to be turned off so I didn’t see her in my home. I felt very violated and as I was 1000s of miles away she crossed a boundary. I completely cut ties with her and L and I bonded over how much stress our mother in law had given us. As time went on me and L became like sisters, always feeding each other’s thoughts on our mother in law and supporting one another. I cut contact completely with mother in law but L didn’t hold back with arguing with her so much so L had police called on her. This was a dark time and my mother in law had a lot to say about me: calling me Satan, demon, poisoning my boyf mind etc. She eventually kicked out my brother in law and L was forced to go to the council to find a flat for her the baby and my brother in law. I noticed my mother in law also cut contact with my boyf at times probably as he was siding with me.

Fast forward a few months…:

L had exposed a lot of my mother in law how she wasn’t genuine to me things she knows that hurt my feelings and made me hate my mother in law more. My mother in law tried to turn my boyf against me as well by telling him to move back home and messages were exchanged with my boyf and her which my brother in law saw and told me.

This situation caused the hugest shift and I need help as to if I’m being used as a scapegoat.

Jan 2026 my brother in law calls me as he noticed my boyf was being influenced by their mother to dislike all of us me L and my bro in law. I got involved too and I agree I shouldn’t but I noticed my boyf turning against us knowing his mother was the driving force and I told this to L and my bro in law. So much so that my bro in law calls me to tell me my boyf is going to leave me and that his mother is going to get a new flat for them to move into. I was shocked and I reacted by going silent, my boyf staying at his mums for the night. I went to L’s flat and they supported me and helped me I was so vulnerable in fear my boyf is moving back with his mother under her influence.

When I went to L’s, the argument continued and my mother in law was sending abusive texts to my bro in law about me and my bro in law and boyf had an argument too as my bro in law “exposed” my boyf and his convo’s with his mum. Mother in law was saying bad things about me switching sides being this being that: I never switched sides I just realised L was nicer than I thought and I never had proper beef with her. My mother in law didn’t like it point blank.

The next day I come to find out my bro in law lied about texts he saw and my boyf never said he’s moving out. As I was upset and angry at my bro in law for twisting things I did indeed come back home to my boyf and forgive him. L didn’t like it, told me she has to cut me off as our friendship will always “have links between your boyf and his mother” and so I said ok I agree we are done then. L wasn’t happy I agreed we should end our friendship, went straight to my mother in law home with her son (my mother in law grandchild) and exposed everything I’d said about my mother in law. I could not believe it.

I tried to speak to my mother in law to explain why I said things, how I was told by L things my mother in law said which is what shaped my opinion but my mother in law refused to speak to me and completely took L side. Now they are the bestest of friends, my mother in law now has access to her grandchild after so long but she forgot everything L did. L did many things: not put my bro in law on the birth certificate, lied about my mother in law being on a bus screaming at her which everyone believed at the time, and also made threats. But somehow my mother in law has forgiven her and still not allowed me to have my say??

My boyf isn’t doing much either: he still sees his mother which is fine but he doesn’t seem to be telling his mum to move forward with me. I asked her last week can we be civil and she said no as “I’m not genuine and she has seen patterns which she’s doesn’t like about me”. But SHE HASNT LET ME SPEAK. SHE IS HEARING ONE SIDE ONLY. L’s side. What do I do!!?? I don’t want to break up with my boyf but she’s still in my life because of him and she is ruining me. Why is no one supporting me???? I was shocked my bro in law did not do anything in my favour either.

Just needed some advice all, thanks in advance ;( x

Hi all…

TLDR(issues with mother in law and sister in law ruining my mental health)

Wondering if anyone can share some advice with me; feeling super deflated about what I’m going to share:

I’ve been dating my partner now for about 8 years. His mother and I have been quite good, we started off bad (typical in law difficulties) but when me and my boyf moved in together me and her really grew close and became best of friends, literally she became my second mother.

In 2023, we, as a family found out her son (my boyf younger 16 year old brother) was expecting a baby with his gf. My mother in law didn’t take it well as it was a shock to all of us but we tried to make the gf (I will refer to her as L) welcome. As time went on L made herself known to be quite unstable and rude and very toxic. Constantly breaking up with my brother in law and making his life hell.

My mother in law grew to hate her for making bad blood between her and my brother in law and also turned me against L. After hearing the stuff L did to my brother in law and mother in law of course id dislike her?? List is endless so I won’t bother saying what she did. The main thing L didn’t do is put my bro in law on their son’s birth certificate. My mother in law told me this was her reason her main reason as to why she hates L, as it’s not fair only L is a named parent. The baby is both L and my bro in laws. My mother in law told me if L does not add him to the certificate she “won’t speak to L or her close friends (meaning me).

After the baby was born the drama continued, and eventually I fell out with L and my brother in law as my mother in law exposed messages of me saying I did not like L…I was barred from seeing my so called nephew and my mother in law tried to fix the situation. She did. We all forgave each other and made the family work as we had my mother in law bday coming up which we all were invited to. We had a lovely time, and I realised L wasn’t the person I’d thought she was. So I thought.

L and I added each other on socials and we grew close. My mother in law wanted this the most so we could all sit a table where we tolerated each other however… me and L grew closer than what my mother in law wanted I think. All of a sudden I was turned against, told how can I be so close to L when she ruined the family, ruined everyone, limits access to who sees her child and I was confused as I thought we had all put stuff behind us and moved on. So off I went to Dubai for my family holiday and whilst I was there my mother in law was apparently chatting shit about me, and L heard things and then told me as L had a new found loyalty to tell me things.

My mother in law came to my flat to see her son as she is allowed this home is her sons as well as mine but she asked for the indoor camera to be turned off so I didn’t see her in my home. I felt very violated and as I was 1000s of miles away she crossed a boundary. I completely cut ties with her and L and I bonded over how much stress our mother in law had given us. As time went on me and L became like sisters, always feeding each other’s thoughts on our mother in law and supporting one another. I cut contact completely with mother in law but L didn’t hold back with arguing with her so much so L had police called on her. This was a dark time and my mother in law had a lot to say about me: calling me Satan, demon, poisoning my boyf mind etc. She eventually kicked out my brother in law and L was forced to go to the council to find a flat for her the baby and my brother in law. I noticed my mother in law also cut contact with my boyf at times probably as he was siding with me.

Fast forward a few months…:

L had exposed a lot of my mother in law how she wasn’t genuine to me things she knows that hurt my feelings and made me hate my mother in law more. My mother in law tried to turn my boyf against me as well by telling him to move back home and messages were exchanged with my boyf and her which my brother in law saw and told me.

This situation caused the hugest shift and I need help as to if I’m being used as a scapegoat.

Jan 2026 my brother in law calls me as he noticed my boyf was being influenced by their mother to dislike all of us me L and my bro in law. I got involved too and I agree I shouldn’t but I noticed my boyf turning against us knowing his mother was the driving force and I told this to L and my bro in law. So much so that my bro in law calls me to tell me my boyf is going to leave me and that his mother is going to get a new flat for them to move into. I was shocked and I reacted by going silent, my boyf staying at his mums for the night. I went to L’s flat and they supported me and helped me I was so vulnerable in fear my boyf is moving back with his mother under her influence.

When I went to L’s, the argument continued and my mother in law was sending abusive texts to my bro in law about me and my bro in law and boyf had an argument too as my bro in law “exposed” my boyf and his convo’s with his mum. Mother in law was saying bad things about me switching sides being this being that: I never switched sides I just realised L was nicer than I thought and I never had proper beef with her. My mother in law didn’t like it point blank.

The next day I come to find out my bro in law lied about texts he saw and my boyf never said he’s moving out. As I was upset and angry at my bro in law for twisting things I did indeed come back home to my boyf and forgive him. L didn’t like it, told me she has to cut me off as our friendship will always “have links between your boyf and his mother” and so I said ok I agree we are done then. L wasn’t happy I agreed we should end our friendship, went straight to my mother in law home with her son (my mother in law grandchild) and exposed everything I’d said about my mother in law. I could not believe it.

I tried to speak to my mother in law to explain why I said things, how I was told by L things my mother in law said which is what shaped my opinion but my mother in law refused to speak to me and completely took L side. Now they are the bestest of friends, my mother in law now has access to her grandchild after so long but she forgot everything L did. L did many things: not put my bro in law on the birth certificate, lied about my mother in law being on a bus screaming at her which everyone believed at the time, and also made threats. But somehow my mother in law has forgiven her and still not allowed me to have my say??

My boyf isn’t doing much either: he still sees his mother which is fine but he doesn’t seem to be telling his mum to move forward with me. I asked her last week can we be civil and she said no as “I’m not genuine and she has seen patterns which she’s doesn’t like about me”. But SHE HASNT LET ME SPEAK. SHE IS HEARING ONE SIDE ONLY. L’s side. What do I do!!?? I don’t want to break up with my boyf but she’s still in my life because of him and she is ruining me. Why is no one supporting me???? I was shocked my bro in law did not do anything in my favour either.

Just needed some advice all, thanks in advance ;( x