Warsaw records / Applications With Limited Surviving Records

Hi everyone,

Asking on behalf of my girlfriend whose link relative is a July 1920 emigration who is Jewish and lived in the Warsaw ghetto. She has hired researchers to search 8 archives in Warsaw, and I've searched extensively on JRI and Szukaj-Archiwach but have found next to nothing -- the only thing being the 1904 birth record of her link relative's sister.

She has the ship records, both from the U.S. and the Netherlands, and all forms of U.S. docs listing Warsaw as place of birth.

Wondering if anyone had a similar situation and can provide advice for searching for Warsaw records, particularly those for Cyrkul IV and if they've had a case where the records were destroyed and how the Polish government handles those. Thanks!

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u/seasnakejake — 7 days ago

NPRC Negative Military Search Letter

Took 4 letters but finally received a wet signature NPRC response which adds one of the aliases for my GGF. I’ll keep the envelope too.

It’s not certified, but with a wet signature does this need to be apostilled in DC before Poland will accept it?

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u/seasnakejake — 8 days ago

Naturalization Docs: USCIS vs. County Level

I had requested certified copies from both Westchester County and NYC which respectively handled early 20th century naturalizations. Wondering if people on here have been able to simply submit the certified / apostilled documents from the original state courts or if the full USCIS certification is neccessary from the documents out of the federal archives. Both Westchester and NYC are eligible for NYS apostille.

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u/seasnakejake — 15 days ago

A Visit To Regietow Wizny

I had always thought my nan (grandma) was Ukrainian -- she spoke Ukrainian and her own mother never even spoke any English. It wasn't until a little over a month ago I realized that her parents (my own great grandparents) were born in the late 1800s in a town called Regietow Wizny -- modern day Poland. Thus began the journey that led me to this sub and the process of exploring Polish citizenship.

I've enjoyed reading all the stories on here, and going through the archives to find records, of which I'm lucky -- all the vital records are available for my line through Regietow but still need some for Heimatracht. Inspired by all going on in this sub, I went to Poland last week to see Regietow Wizny for myself.

Its a ghost town located in the lower beskid mountain range, near Slovakia. Closest real town is Gorlice. RW was completed leveled by the Soviet Polish government during operation Visalia to forcibly assimilate the Lemko population. Its sister town, Regietow Nizny, is the site of the largest Hucul horse stud in Europe and where I ended up staying. The place was beautiful, saw many horses and friendly dogs along my route from Nizny to Wizny, and I ended up finding a gravestone of someone I later found to be my great-great uncle. It was a beautiful experience being in the Lemko graveyards and chapel, and I biked over the border to the sister town in Slovakia, Regetovka, which was also beautiful.

Didn't expect to find any documents there, but it really was a great experience and I would recommend the same to everyone on here if within their means. Added in some photos of my trip there and of the local animals I saw.

u/seasnakejake — 16 days ago

Necessity of "No Record Found" U.S. military documents in my case

Hi all -- thanks for all the feedback on my first post.

I have reached out to providers and am seeking to get the rest of the necessary documents, and wondering if I need to request the "No Record Found" U.S. military documents in my case.

My line was GGF -> GM -> Mom -> Me

GGF was born 1892, arrived in NY, USA 1911 and naturalized in 1924, though he died in 1944.

GM was born in 1931 in NY, USA, my mom was born in 1963 NY, USA.

I have census and career records keeping him in Yonkers at his occupation of hat maker and he died prior to the end of the U.S. being in the Allied forces -- and the chain following him is matrilineal.

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u/seasnakejake — 2 months ago

Polish Citizenship for Ancestor Pre 1920

Great-Grandparents: 

* Date married: 1911, USA

* Date divorced: N/A

GGM: 

* Date, place of birth: 1895, Regietow, Kingdom of Galicia (Austrian-Poland)

* Ethnicity and religion: Lemko, Greek Orthodox

* Occupation: Domestic

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 1911, USA

* Date naturalized: Never, husband naturalized only.

* Date, place of death: 1991, USA

GGF (Primary Link): 

* Date, place of birth: 1892, Regietow, Kingdom of Galicia (Austrian-Poland)

* Ethnicity and religion: Lemko, Greek Orthodox

* Occupation: hat maker

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

* Date, destination for emigration: 1911, USA

* Date naturalized: 1924

* Date, place of death: 1944, USA

Grandparent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: May 12 1931, USA

* Date married: 1953

* Citizenship of spouse: USA

* Date divorced: 1980

* Occupation: Secretary

* Allegiance and dates of military service: N/A

(If applicable)

  • Date, destination for emigration: N/A
  • Date naturalized: N/A

Parent: 

* Sex: Female

* Date, place of birth: 1963, USA

* Date married: 1990

* Date divorced: 2011

You: 

* Date, place of birth: 1998, USA

I've seen lots of posts for people trying to claim Polish citizenship for ancestors leaving before the creation of the second Polish Republic, to limited success. Many of the law firms helping with citizenship don't even take these sort of cases. I was able to find my great grandfather's birth record in the archives in Rzeszowie and have requested a certified copy, and I have requested all other necessary U.S. documents -- his naturalization record, marriage license, death certificate; my grandmother's marriage license, and death certificate, my moms birth certificate, etc., which will all be then properly apostilled by the relevant US states and submitted to an approved Polish translator.

My question to all of this, if you were kind enough to read this far, is both how likely of a case I have here, and why would people hire these law firms (outside of solely being a place to receive the correspondence from the Polish government), as it seems like once I assemble all these documents I can pro se represent myself to the Polish consulate who will send back to Poland for consideration. I've seen quotes over $5k for this and it doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something. Dziękuję!

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u/seasnakejake — 2 months ago
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Polish Citizenship for Ancestor Pre 1920

I've seen lots of posts for people trying to claim Polish citizenship for ancestors leaving before the creation of the second Polish Republic, to limited success. Many of the law firms helping with citizenship don't even take these sort of cases.

My great-grandfather was born in the Kingdom of Galicia, the Austrian partition (Austrian Poland) in 1892, leaving in 1911. After searching over 2,000 pages in the Archiwum Państwowe w Rzeszowie via the Szukaj w Archiwach, I was able to find his exact birth record. He was Lemko, but the Austrian Empire kept those birth records in Latin so its his Latinized name. His parents name and his exact house number in the village of Regietów are listed.

He left for the USA in 1911, and naturalized in 1927. Naturalizing was typically enough for someone to lose their citizenship, but Poland refused to accept the naturalization of military-age males from 1920 - 1951, rendering him a Polish citizen when he passed that down to my grandma in 1932. Women could not pass down Polish citizenship through marriage if they were married before 1951, my grandma married in 1953 and had US citizenship by soil so she, nor my mother, naturalized -- effectively passing their Polish citizenship down to me.

I have requested the archives in Rzeszowie to process a certified copy of my great-grandfather's birth records, and I have requested all other necessary U.S. documents -- his naturalization record, marriage license, death certificate; my grandmother's marriage license, and death certificate, my moms birth certificate, etc.

My question to all of this, if you were kind enough to read this far, is both how likely of a case I have here, and why would people hire these law firms (outside of solely being a place to receive the correspondence from the Polish government), as it seems like once I assemble all these documents I can pro se represent myself to the Polish consulate who will send back to Poland for consideration. I've seen quotes over $5k for this and it doesn't make sense to me unless I'm missing something. Dziękuję!

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u/seasnakejake — 2 months ago

Added the Rival Skid Plate

Have a FWD hybrid, but I go off roading frequently so picked up the rival skid plate. Tried installing first without ramps and having to use wire to put the connection points in under the chassis proved too challenging so got ramps. Not the easiest install but makes me feel better about driving over sharp rocks.

u/seasnakejake — 2 months ago

Hadn’t used the Atmos card since the first time it failed for me in January which resulted in me calling far too many BoA reps who had no idea what was going on, ultimately to figure out they try to charge these as a cash advance. Wanted to see if there was still an issue here and looks like BoA is still trying to code it as a cash advance. Got the card solely for this partnership so it’s unfortunate this is the case. Heard it’s been affecting plenty of people. Need Bilt support to escalate to their partnerships side.

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u/seasnakejake — 4 months ago