Marielitos, Immigration, and Sanitariums

Marielitos, Immigration, and Sanitariums

In this exchange:

MANOLO: I told them what you told me to tell them, that I was in sanitation. They didn't go for it.

TONY: I told you to say you were in a sanitarium. That you had TB, and you was cured.

  • Why did Tony tell Manolo to say he'd been in a sanitarium, with tuberculosis? Wouldn't having had TB been a red flag for immigration?
  • How would having been in a sanitarium affect their status?
  • What did Tony know, about sanitariums and US policy about Cuban refugees?
  • Did Cubans who'd been in a sanitarium get special treatment or preference over other Marielitos?
  • Why didn't Tony say he'd been in a sanitarium?
  • Once the Marielitos landed in Florida, weren't they automatically granted U.S. citizenship? Why did Tony and Manolo have to lie, and carry out the assassination? Was sponsorship from a citizen required for them to stay in the United States?
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u/sorotomotor — 1 day ago

Times have changed. It's not like the old days, when subreddits could look bland and unprofessional.

Making a 1200px by 240px .png banner graphic for our subreddit is the act of a friend. The moderators have access to modify the page, and they must share it. Certainly they can present a bill for such services; after all, we are not Communists.

u/sorotomotor — 4 days ago
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Look, Frank. The Time Has Come. We Gotta Exspand.

The whole subreddit: a logo, a banner graphic, user flair. We gotta set our own mark, and enforce it. I make you a banner graphic. 1200px by 240px .png. It did not cost my friend Angel his life. My gift to you.

u/sorotomotor — 4 days ago

Octavio: The Deleted Scene!

Richard Belzer introduced him as, "I found him stoned in the jungle, he's from Caracas Venezuela, the one and only...Octavio!!" But who was Octavio? What was that act supposed to be? What's the backstory? This deleted scene answers some of our questions about Octavio the Clown and his tragic demise.

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u/sorotomotor — 11 days ago

Look, Frank. The Time Has Come. We Gotta Have User Flair.

We gotta exspand. The whole subreddit. User flair, a banner graphic, a logo. We gotta set our own mark, and enforce it. We gotta thingk big now.

  • Mæng
  • That Is Serious Money
  • The World Is Yours
  • Pizza Chip
  • Coño!
  • You Call Yourself Cuban?
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u/sorotomotor — 16 days ago
▲ 252 r/movies

The Big Lebowski: The Dude's Journey Through Hades

The Coen brothers have said The Big Lebowski is a movie reminiscent of Raymond Chandler's The Big Sleep with a plot that goes nowhere, but The Big Lebowski is also much deeper: The Big Lebowski is The Dude as Dante and his journey through Hades.

The Stranger is Virgil, narrating the story of The Dude's journey.

Walter is Charon, the ferryman. When the Dude picks up Walter, Walter immediately insists on driving. Walter driving the Dude's car over the wooden bridge represents Charon ferrying a soul across the river Styx. The money-filled briefcase the Dude gives Walter represents the ferryman’s toll. When the briefcase is stolen, Walter leads the search efforts to retrieve it. Walter also arranges and pays for Donny's cremation, and scatters Donny's ashes at Oceanus: Charon delivers souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead.

Uli and the nihilists are Cerberus, the three-headed dog guarding the entrance and exit to Hades. When the nihilists visit The Dude in the bathtub, the camera shot is angled so they appear to have one body with three heads. After Walter throws the ringer off the bridge and the nihilists speed off on their motorcycles, the revving engines sound like growling, howling dogs. When the money is revealed to have never existed, Charon has been denied his payment, so Walter escorts the Dude back to the land of the living and is confronted by Cerberus.

Bunny is a Siren. Bunny is repeatedly shown next to water: the Dude first meets Bunny at the pool, and later watches her in Logjammin' with Sherri, another Siren who "just came over to use the shower.” Later, Bunny crashes her car into the fountain after “visiting friends in Palm Springs.

Maude is Melinoë, the bringer of nightmares and madness. Maude appears in both of The Dude's dreams and hallucinations. In the Dude’s first dream, the Dude chases Maude while flying, but the dream becomes a nighmare about falling. The Dude's second dream also features Maude and ends with a terrifying nightmare. Melinoë is a moon nymph, so Maude always appears at night, in dim light or shade, or in The Dude's dreams.

Jackie Treehorn is Hades; his thugs are Thatanos and Hypnos. The Dude meets Jackie at his beach party with a fire in the background; the beach and crashing waves represent Oceanus, the border between the lands of the living and the dead. Jackie's cave-like house represents Hypnos's cave, where Jackie puts The Dude to sleep. Another possibility is The Big Lebowski himself is Hades, since Melinoë (Maude) is his daughter. Bunny could be Persephone, the consort of Hades, but… aw hell, I'm ramblin' again.

I am not aware of any discussions in which the Coen Brothers have confirmed or discussed making allegories and allusions to Greek underworld mythology and The Divine Comedy in The Big Lebowski, but I am certain the Coens made them intentionally. The Coens are deliberate, meticulous, and thoughtful about making movies. All of their movies prior to The Big Lebowski have cohesive literary allusion and allegories via writing, art direction, and cinematography.

I neither believe The Big Lebowski is careless writing or lazy filmmaking, nor do I think the Coens sought only to make a pointless movie as they've claimed elsewhere. Rather, I believe The Big Lebowski was made to seem like an oddball comedy, but contains enough subtlety and clues to its deeper meanings, forcing the audience to question, discuss, and analyze it, like all of the other films by the Coen Brothers.

A wiser fella than myself can and should write more about the allegorical connections between The Big Lebowski and Greek underworld mythology. I didn't think Donny havin' a Greek last name was a coincidence. But it’s a pretty good theory, don’tcha think? Well, thatabout wraps ‘er up. Catchya later on down the trail.

u/sorotomotor — 1 month ago
▲ 691 r/FIlm

The Big Lebowski: The Dude, Dante, and Hades

The Big Lebowski is a story about The Dude as Dante, taking a tour through Hades.

The Stranger is Virgil, narrating the story of Hades and its residents.

Walter is Charon, the ferryman. When the Dude picks up Walter, Walter immediately insists on driving. Walter driving the Dude's car over the wooden bridge represents Charon ferrying a soul across the river Styx. The money-filled briefcase the Dude gives Walter represents the ferryman’s toll. When the briefcase is stolen, Walter leads the efforts and search to retrieve it. Walter also arranges and pays for Donny's cremation, and scatters Donny's ashes at Oceanus: Charon delivers souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead.

Uli and the nihilists are Cerberus, the three-headed dog guarding the entrance and exit to Hades. When the nihilists visit The Dude in the bathtub, the camera shot is angled so they appear to have one body with three heads. After Walter throws the ringer off the bridge and the nihilists speed off on their motorcycles, the revving engines sound like growling, howling dogs. When the money is revealed to have never existed, Charon has been denied his payment, so Walter escorts the Dude back to the land of the living and is confronted by Cerberus.

Bunny is a Siren. Bunny is repeatedly shown next to water: the Dude first meets Bunny at the pool, and later watches her in Logjammin' with Sherri, another Siren who "just came over to use the shower.” Later, Bunny crashes her car into the fountain after “visiting friends in Palm Springs.

Maude is Melinoë, the bringer of nightmares and madness. Maude appears in both of The Dude's dreams and hallucinations. In the Dude’s first dream, the Dude chases Maude while flying, but the dream becomes a nighmare about falling. The Dude's second dream also features Maude and ends with a terrifying nightmare. Melinoë is a moon nymph, so Maude always appears at night, in dim light or shade, or in The Dude's dreams.

Jackie Treehorn is Hades; his thugs are Thatanos and Hypnos. The Dude meets Jackie at his beach party with a fire in the background; the beach and crashing waves represent Oceanus, the border between the lands of the living and the dead. Jackie's house is a cave-like dwelling, where Jackie puts The Dude to sleep.

Another possibility is The Big Lebowski is Hades, since Melinoë (Maude) is his daughter. Bunny could be Persephone, the consort of Hades, but… aw hell, I'm ramblin' again. A wiser fella than myself can and should write more about the allegorical connections between The Big Lebowski and Greek underworld mythology. I didn't think Donny havin' a Greek last name was a coincidence. But it’s a pretty good theory, don’tcha think? Well, thatabout wraps ‘er up. Catchya later on down the trail.

u/sorotomotor — 1 month ago
▲ 313 r/Dudeism

The Big Lebowski: The Dude, Dante, and Hades

The Big Lebowski is a story about The Dude as Dante, taking a tour through Hades.

The Stranger is Virgil, narrating the story of Hades and its residents.

Walter is Charon, the ferryman. When the Dude picks up Walter, Walter immediately insists on driving. Walter driving the Dude's car over the wooden bridge represents Charon ferrying a soul across the river Styx. The money-filled briefcase the Dude gives Walter represents the ferryman’s toll. When the briefcase is stolen, Walter leads the efforts and search to retrieve it. Walter also arranges and pays for Donny's cremation, and scatters Donny's ashes at Oceanus: Charon delivers souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead.

Uli and the nihilists are Cerberus, the three-headed dog guarding the entrance and exit to Hades. When the nihilists visit The Dude in the bathtub, the camera shot is angled so they appear to have one body with three heads. After Walter throws the ringer off the bridge and the nihilists speed off on their motorcycles, the revving engines sound like growling, howling dogs. When the money is revealed to have never existed, Charon has been denied his payment, so Walter escorts the Dude back to the land of the living and is confronted by Cerberus.

Bunny is a Siren. Bunny is repeatedly shown next to water: the Dude first meets Bunny at the pool, and later watches her in Logjammin' with Sherri, another Siren who "just came over to use the shower.” Later, Bunny crashes her car into the fountain after “visiting friends in Palm Springs.

Maude is Melinoë, the bringer of nightmares and madness. Maude appears in both of The Dude's dreams and hallucinations. In the Dude’s first dream, the Dude chases Maude while flying, but the dream becomes a nighmare about falling. The Dude's second dream also features Maude and ends with a terrifying nightmare. Melinoë is a moon nymph, so Maude always appears at night, in dim light or shade, or in The Dude's dreams.

Jackie Treehorn is Hades; his thugs are Thatanos and Hypnos. The Dude meets Jackie at his beach party with a fire in the background; the beach and crashing waves represent Oceanus, the border between the lands of the living and the dead. Jackie's house is a cave-like dwelling, where Jackie puts The Dude to sleep.

Another possibility is The Big Lebowski is Hades, since Melinoë (Maude) is his daughter. Bunny could be Persephone, the consort of Hades, but… aw hell, I'm ramblin' again. A wiser fella than myself can and should write more about the allegorical connections between The Big Lebowski and Greek underworld mythology. I didn't think Donny havin' a Greek last name was a coincidence. But it’s a pretty good theory, don’tcha think? Well, thatabout wraps ‘er up. Catchya later on down the trail.

u/sorotomotor — 1 month ago
▲ 1.7k r/lebowski

The Big Lebowski: The Dude, Dante, and Hades

The Big Lebowski is a story about The Dude as Dante, taking a tour through Hades.

The Stranger is Virgil, narrating the story of Hades and its residents.

Walter is Charon, the ferryman. When the Dude picks up Walter, Walter immediately insists on driving. Walter driving the Dude's car over the wooden bridge represents Charon ferrying a soul across the river Styx. The money-filled briefcase the Dude gives Walter represents the ferryman’s toll. When the briefcase is stolen, Walter leads the efforts and search to retrieve it. Walter also arranges and pays for Donny's cremation, and scatters Donny's ashes at Oceanus: Charon delivers souls from the land of the living to the land of the dead.

Uli and the nihilists are Cerberus, the three-headed dog guarding the entrance and exit to Hades. When the nihilists visit The Dude in the bathtub, the camera shot is angled so they appear to have one body with three heads. After Walter throws the ringer off the bridge and the nihilists speed off on their motorcycles, the revving engines sound like growling, howling dogs. When the money is revealed to have never existed, Charon has been denied his payment, so Walter escorts the Dude back to the land of the living and is confronted by Cerberus.

Bunny is a Siren. Bunny is repeatedly shown next to water: the Dude first meets Bunny at the pool, and later watches her in Logjammin' with Sherri, another Siren who "just came over to use the shower.” Later, Bunny crashes her car into the fountain after “visiting friends in Palm Springs.

Maude is Melinoë, the bringer of nightmares and madness. Maude appears in both of The Dude's dreams and hallucinations. In the Dude’s first dream, the Dude chases Maude while flying, but the dream becomes a nighmare about falling. The Dude's second dream also features Maude and ends with a terrifying nightmare. Melinoë is a moon nymph, so Maude always appears at night, in dim light or shade, or in The Dude's dreams.

Jackie Treehorn is Hades; his thugs are Thatanos and Hypnos. The Dude meets Jackie at his beach party with a fire in the background; the beach and crashing waves represent Oceanus, the border between the lands of the living and the dead. Jackie's house is a cave-like dwelling, where Jackie puts The Dude to sleep.

Another possibility is The Big Lebowski is Hades, since Melinoë (Maude) is his daughter. Bunny could be Persephone, the consort of Hades, but… aw hell, I'm ramblin' again. A wiser fella than myself can and should write more about the allegorical connections between The Big Lebowski and Greek underworld mythology. I didn't think Donny havin' a Greek last name was a coincidence. But it’s a pretty good theory, don’tcha think? Well, thatabout wraps ‘er up. Catchya later on down the trail.

u/sorotomotor — 1 month ago

Clemenza Tapping With His Ring

In this scene, as Vito says, "I know two bookies who don't give Fanucci anything," he flicks his index and middle fingers under his chin. A moment later, Clemenza whacks his ring twice on the table and gestures at Tessio as if to say, "He's not listening, you explain it to him."

Vito's chin-finger-flick, Clemenza's ring-tapping, and their hand gestures feel authentic and I'm wondering if DeNiro and Bruno Kirby improvised them, or if Coppola knew of the gestures and directed DeNiro and Kirby to use them. Are these Italian/Sicilian things, or just things people do?

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u/sorotomotor — 2 months ago

New Logo For Our Subreddit

For r/Godfather to be completely legitimate, we need a logo, which is something most Redditors want and is forbidden to them by the pezzonovante. I worked up two options for us to use, and there will be the peace.

u/sorotomotor — 2 months ago

I Believe In Reddit

I talked to Barzini. We can repurpose the logo and still keep this subreddit.

u/sorotomotor — 2 months ago

The Sit-Down With Tessio and Clemenza: Vito Corleone's First Power Move

Fanucci demanded $200 from each of Vito's crew, but Vito immediately knew Fanucci would accept less. How did Vito know Fanucci wouldn't call his bluff?

u/sorotomotor — 2 months ago

I want you to use all your powers and all your skills...I don't want the mods to see it this way.

u/sorotomotor — 2 months ago