I've listened to the first 9 albums and my assumptions are changing

Before I got far into this project, I made a prediction about all 29 artists. Which ones did I think would eventually make my Top 10. The Rolling Stones were an easy no.

I like them well enough. But they made the list only because you can’t have a serious classic rock list without them. So I added them. I didn’t think I liked them enough to survive all 329 albums I’m listening to.

The first few records overwhelmingly confirmed that.

Then I got to Between the Buttons. That was the first album where I felt like I was experiencing The Rolling Stones.

Their Satanic Majesties Request surprised me. And Beggars Banquet just blew me away.

They’re still only #21 overall right now, but consider the albums coming up!!

And now, for the first time, I’m thinking this prediction could turn out to be wrong.

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u/stepn-out — 13 hours ago

Do We Know Our Favorite Bands as Well as We Think?

Up until a few months ago, I would have told you I knew the Rolling Stones. I’ve lived with them for 50+ years.

I know all the radio hits. I own Hot Rocks, Some Girls, Emotional Rescue, Tattoo You and Undercover. I certainly never thought of myself as someone who needed an introduction to the Stones.

A few months ago, I started listening to their albums chronologically.

The same thing has happened with several artists I've been going through chronologically at the same time. Greatest hits collections and classic rock radio gave me a very strong sense of what these bands sounded like. A surprisingly narrow one, as it turns out.

Albums I had always thought of mainly as vehicles for two or three hits are starting to make much more sense as complete records.

This is happening because I've gotten myself into a yearlong project: 29 classic rock artists, 329 albums, every album listened to three times, chronologically.

I'm about a third of the way through now, and the results are already quite different from the list I would have made before I started. I've been documenting the whole thing as it unfolds because I'm increasingly curious where this is going to end.

But one of the biggest surprises so far has nothing to do with rankings. It’s realizing how much greatest hits albums and classic rock radio edited these bands for me.

u/stepn-out — 1 day ago

That Time I Had to Lie to My Best Friend Just to Listen to The Soft Parade

In the summer of 1980, my best friend and I made money mowing lawns. One weekend, we got work tilling a neighbor's garden.

I had just bought The Soft Parade, so I taped the album onto a cassette and brought it along so we could listen while we worked.

He hated The Doors. He absolutely refused.

I told him I thought the record might have skipped while I was taping it and that I needed to listen all the way through to make sure I didn't have to return the album.

That worked.

I’m now listening chronologically through the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists, three full listens per album.

I’m 118 albums in, and The Doors are currently sitting at #2.  I still have 211 albums left, so I have no idea whether they stay there.

EPILOGUE: my friend grew up to become a corporate attorney. I grew up and became (maybe already was) a salesperson.

u/stepn-out — 4 days ago
▲ 94 r/TheWho

It took me nearly 55 years to finally listen to Tommy

I’m listening through The Who’s catalog chronologically, and I finally got to Tommy.

What makes that especially special is that I had every opportunity to hear it. As a teen/young adult, I had boxes and boxes of cassettes, easily hundreds of them. I was constantly borrowing albums from friends and taping them. I could have added Tommy at any point. I never did.

I’m doing the same thing with 28 other classic rock artists, and this is exactly the kind of surprise I was hoping would happen.

In 1975, when I was 10, I went to see Tommy with a couple of friends. Clearly too young for it. By the time Tina Turner showed up as the Acid Queen, we’d had enough. The three of us ran out of the theater and called for an early ride home.

So I went into the album expecting it to be a bit of a chore. I assumed there would be a lot of unfamiliar music that hadn’t aged particularly well.

I was completely wrong.

What surprised me most was how much of it I already knew. And the songs I didn’t know were far better than I expected. By the third listen, I was wondering why I’d waited this long.

Listening to The Who chronologically, Tommy was the first album where I felt like they finally arrived as I know them. The voice, the sound.

u/stepn-out — 5 days ago

Can you really call a band one of your favorites if you only love part of their catalog?

If you asked, I’d tell you I’m a Springsteen fan.

But I’ve realized there’s a pretty big hole in that statement.

I know his first four albums. I love them. Based on my scoring, Springsteen is currently #2 among the 29 artists I’m listening to.

After that, though, I have almost no familiarity with his catalog.

So what actually makes an artist one of your favorites?

If you love three or four albums deeply but don’t know most of what came after, is that enough? And if you eventually discover a long stretch of albums you don’t care for, should that count against them?

I’m listening chronologically through the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists, three times per album. It’s making me realize that some of the artists I’ve called favorites for decades may have been favorites based on a surprisingly small part of their work.

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u/stepn-out — 6 days ago
▲ 35 r/beatles

I thought I knew the Beatles. Then I started at the beginning.

I’m listening through the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists chronologically, three full listens per album. The Beatles are, of course, one of them.

I'll admit that the Beatles I knew were largely the Beatles of the Blue Album, Sgt. Pepper’s and the White Album.  And watching The Yellow Submarine.

I had never spent time with the early records.

So listening through the catalog chronologically has been a strange experience. Please Please Me and With the Beatles were a struggle for me. There were flashes of what I knew was coming, but it was so different.  I was struggling with them..

Then I got to A Hard Day’s Night.

That was the first time I thought there they are!

And Beatles for Sale has continued that feeling. I’m starting to hear the band I’ve known all of my life taking shape.

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u/stepn-out — 8 days ago

I knew this album cover for 45 years before I finally heard the album

I’ve seen In Search of the Lost Chord in record bins for most of my life, and that cover always made me curious about what the album actually sounded like.

When I was a teenager, part time job money only went so far, and there were always other records I wanted more, so I kept passing this one over.

45 years later, I finally gave it a proper listen.

The first listen was promising. I liked the songs and appreciated what they were trying to do, even if the psychedelic atmosphere and sitar were a little much for me. “Ride My See Saw” immediately stood out.

By the third listen, instead of growing on me, it started to lose me. It just wasn’t connecting. It finished at 13.67 and currently ranks #93 out of the 118 albums I’ve completed.

Still, I’m glad I finally heard it and crossed it off my bucket list.

u/stepn-out — 10 days ago

Listening to Bowie chronologically taught me that “Do you like it?” is actually four separate questions

I’m 60. Until a few months ago, my entire Bowie experience was ChangesOneBowie and Let’s Dance. I finally started listening to the studio albums chronologically, three times each, scoring them as I went.

Six albums in, I’ve realized that “Do you like it?” is really four different questions:

Is it well made?
Is it interesting?
Does it make me feel something?
Do I actually want to hear it again?

Bowie’s debut made the distinction obvious. My total score went from

19 to 14.5 to 14.

My desire to replay it fell from “can’t wait” after the first listen, then “never again” after the second.  5 to 1 to 1

Oddly by the third listen, I understood and appreciated the album more. I recognized the songs, heard the theatrical concept more clearly and respected what he was trying to do. I simply had no desire to play it again.

Hunky Dory moved differently. Its score rose before settling slightly lower, while my replay interest remained steady.

Ziggy Stardust barely moved at all across three listens. It was the first album where I could finally hear “the David Bowie I thought I knew.” I simply had no desire to play it again.

It’s been interesting hearing his progression over 6 albums.  I’m looking forward to continuing through the rest of the catalog included in my project.

u/stepn-out — 14 days ago

My Relationship with Classic Rock Changed Around 1989

That’s when my relationship with music changed.

I graduated from college, started working full-time, got married, bought a house, and had a few kids.

Before that, I had both disposable income and time. A lot of time.

By the early '90s, I had neither the time nor the resources to indulge that passion.

Ironically, the house is now sold, the marriage is over, and the kids are grown. Suddenly I have time again. Thanks to streaming, I'm rediscovering my love of listening to complete catalogs and finally exploring artists whose discographies I never finished.

It's actually become a formal year long project. I'm working through the complete studio catalogs of 29 classic rock artists, 329 albums in all, with every album receiving three complete listens. I'm curious to see whether the bands I thought were my favorites forty years ago are still my favorites today.

u/stepn-out — 16 days ago

Did the Kinks Know What They Had When They Recorded "Lola"?

I'm listening through the Kinks' catalog chronologically, and I just reached ‘Lola Versus Powerman and the Moneygoround, Part One’.

When "Lola" came on, it immediately stood out to me from everything up to that point. It wasn't just another great Kinks song.

And that made me wonder...

Did the band realize they had something extraordinary when they were recording it, or was its success a complete surprise?

I'd also be curious whether Ray Davies has ever talked about his expectations for the song before it became a hit.

This year I'm listening to the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists chronologically. 329 albums in all, three times each. Every album is evaluated using seven weighted questions, with the results tracked in an Airtable database. The accumulated points ultimately rank the artists from 1–29. I'm now 200+ hours into what will be roughly a 700-hour project, and many of the questions I ask here come directly from something I've just discovered.

u/stepn-out — 19 days ago

ChatGPT can see my Airtable schema but not my records. How do I give it access? (Non-programmer)

I'm hoping someone can point me in the right direction because I'm completely out of my depth here.

First, I'm not a programmer, not a software developer, and I don't write code. I'm just trying to use Airtable as the database behind a personal project.

I have an Airtable base containing hundreds of music listening sessions, album ratings, and written notes. I'd like ChatGPT to read those records so it can help me identify patterns, generate discussion topics, summarize observations, etc.

Here's the strange part:

  • ChatGPT can connect to my Airtable account.
  • It can see my base.
  • It can see every table.
  • It can see every field in those tables.
  • It correctly identifies fields like "Experience Notes," "Album Average Score," etc.

But when I ask it to actually read the records (for example, all of David Bowie's album notes), it says it can't access the record data. It only seems able to see the schema.

I've spent quite a while trying different approaches, and I really don't want to go down the API, Python, or custom scripting route. I'm looking for a solution that works using Airtable and ChatGPT as they are intended to be used.

So my questions are:

  1. Is there a permission or setting in Airtable that allows AI tools to read records but not just the schema?
  2. Has anyone successfully used ChatGPT to read records directly from an Airtable base?
  3. Is this simply a current limitation of ChatGPT's Airtable connector, or is there something I'm missing?

I'm trying to figure out whether this is something I can fix, or whether I've reached a limitation of the integration itself.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

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u/stepn-out — 20 days ago

How many albums have we judged too quickly?

I've been working on a yearlong listening project: 29 classic rock artists, 329 albums, each heard three times. Every listen is evaluated using the same weighted questions.

One thing has surprised me more than anything else: how often my opinion changes.

For example, Something Else by The Kinks gained 5.5 points in my evaluation process between the first and third listen. An album that barely registered at first eventually became one I genuinely looked forward to hearing again.

It made me wonder how much weight we should give our first impressions of an album. How many albums have we dismissed too quickly or overrated simply because they made a great first impression?

What are some other examples?

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u/stepn-out — 21 days ago

Help Me Hear No Reason to Cry: What Should I Be Listening For?

I'm working through Eric Clapton's catalog chronologically, listening to every album three times before evaluating it.

I'm about to start my second listen to No Reason to Cry, and I'll admit...I'm not hearing what makes this album special.

Before I press play, I thought I'd ask the people who know it best.

What should I be listening for?

Is it the songwriting? The playing? The atmosphere? Specific tracks? Are there subtle details that only emerge after a few listens?

I'm genuinely curious because I've found that hearing an album through someone else's perspective often changes what I notice.

I'm listening chronologically through the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists, documenting how my opinions evolve over three complete listens. One of the most rewarding parts of the project has been learning from longtime fans, so many of the questions I ask come directly from something I've just discovered.

u/stepn-out — 23 days ago

How Was "Panic in Detroit" Left Off ChangesOneBowie?

I just finished listening to Aladdin Sane and had one of those "wait... what?" moments.

When "Panic in Detroit" came on, I was sure it had to be on ChangesOneBowie. So I looked it up.

How is it not there?  The song absolutely rocks.

Is "Panic in Detroit" the most underrated songs in Bowie's catalog, or am I simply hearing it differently because I'm experiencing it in the context of Aladdin Sane instead of as a standalone track?

I'm listening to the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists chronologically, three times each. 329 albums in all.  Every album is evaluated using the same weighted set of questions, with the results tracked in an Airtable database from the first listen to the last. The tallied points in turn ranks the artists 1-29.  Many of the questions I ask here come directly from that process.

u/stepn-out — 24 days ago

The Most Unexpected Comparison I Made Listening to Their Satanic Majesties Request

Listening to "Sing This All Together (See What Happens)" immediately reminded me of Frank Zappa's "The Return of the Son of Monster Magnet" from Freak Out!.

They both explore extended percussion, sound collage, voices as texture, and a feeling of organized chaos.

I wondered if I was imagining it, but I found a 1968 review that made the same comparison:
https://www.afka.net/Articles/1968-02_Jazz_Pop.htm

I haven't found any evidence that the Stones were actually influenced by Zappa, so I'm curious has this connection ever been discussed much among Stones fans? Do you hear it?

For context: I'm listening to the complete catalogs of 29 classic rock artists chronologically, three times each. Every album is evaluated using the same set of weighted, point-based questions, with the scores tracked in an Airtable database from the first listen to the last. I've finally reached Their Satanic Majesties Request, which led me to this question.

u/stepn-out — 25 days ago

It Took Me 61 Years to Hear Eric Clapton Differently

"Clapton is God," or so I understood growing up.

But his guitar playing never quite did it for me.

Until now.

As a teenager, I suppose I expected guitar heros to be flashy and explosive. That seemed to be the style of the era.

Listening through Clapton's catalog chronologically now, at age 61, and especially after hearing Eric Clapton's Rainbow Concert, I'm beginning to hear something completely different—something slower, more restrained, and more purposeful. It's subtle, but in its own way just as impressive. Maybe even more so.

For longtime Clapton fans, did Clapton's guitar playing always work for you? If so, what should I be listening for?

u/stepn-out — 1 month ago

I Discovered the Kinks Backwards — Through Low Budget. I'm Six Albums Into a Chronological Listen and Still Waiting to Hear the Band I Fell in Love With.

My gateway into the Kinks was Low Budget, ordered through Columbia House as one of my 10 albums for a penny. I was 14 years old and absolutely devoured it. I still do — "Moving Pictures" became part of the soundtrack to my Boston to NYC walking video.

I bought Give the People What They Want and One for the Road immediately upon their release. Same with State of Confusion. I later went back and picked up Misfits. Then, for whatever reason, I stopped.

I'm now listening through the entire Kinks catalog chronologically as part of a long-term music project — three listens to every album. I've made it to Live at Kelvin Hall (which may deserve a follow-up post of its own).

I'm starting to hear glimmers of the Kinks I fell in love with, but I'm surprised it's taken six albums to get there.

I know The Village Green Preservation Society and Arthur are waiting for me. I'm ready.

For those of you who discovered the Kinks through their late-'70s and early-'80s material, when did the band you loved finally emerge?

u/stepn-out — 2 months ago

David Bowie Presents a Puzzle for Me

I've started a personal project in which I'm listening to the catalogs of 29 classic rock artists, three times each, before ranking them.

In the course of this project, I've discovered that David Bowie presents a bit of a puzzle for me.

Before beginning, I thought I knew Bowie. I knew the hits. I knew the image. I knew the cultural importance. I knew the reputation.

I've completed my first listens of Bowie's early albums, and so far I've found myself respecting Bowie more than enjoying Bowie. I keep waiting for the moment when everything clicks and I suddenly understand why so many people consider him one of the greatest artists of all time.

So my question to longtime Bowie fans is this:

Was there a specific album, song, era, or even repeated exposure that made Bowie finally click for you?

u/stepn-out — 2 months ago

Indelibly Stamped Deserves Better — Why Isn't It On Spotify?

Why aren't Supertramp's first two albums on Spotify?

I'm currently listening through the Supertramp catalog as part of a personal project and working my way through the albums in chronological order.

Before starting, I was already very familiar with Even in the Quietest Moments, Breakfast in America, Paris, and Brother Where You Bound. But I had never really spent time with the other albums.

The debut didn't connect with me nearly as much as the second album. After finally hearing it (on YouTube), I found it historically interesting, but not something I expect to revisit.

What surprised me was Indelibly Stamped. I actually thought it was a good album. That made me wonder why it seems to have disappeared from streaming services.

Does anyone know the actual reason these albums aren't on Spotify?

u/stepn-out — 2 months ago