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It looks like Cordelia, Madison, Mallory, and Coco in the image.

Because we know that in Fiona’s personal hell, both her and the Axeman are trapped in the same personal hell. Marie Laveau and Delphine LaLaurie share the same personal hell too, Delphine’s daughter was most likely an illusion meant to psychologically torture Delphine. So we know that some people can share the same afterlife.

For Misty’s Hell, she was stuck in an Hell version of her school classroom with classmates who seemed to be demons in disguise because they communicated with Micheal Langdon in some unknown language. So this got me thinking that the other people in both Queenie and Madison’s personal hell could really just be demons in disguise who psychologically torture the people trapped there.

Madison did say that the people in her hell are nameless and aren’t the stars of their own afterlife. So either those people are demons or illusions conjured by whoever controls the Underworld, which seems to be Papa Legba and Satan, or some other unknown infernal entities.

Another interesting thing is that Michael said that most people in Hell are unaware that they’re even in Hell in the first place.

What do y’all think?

Ryan Murphy just confirmed that Evan Peters is playing like 5 roles or something like that. So it’s possible we might get to find out what happened to Kit after he was abducted in the final episode of Asylum.

Obviously the aliens in Asylum are a different species from the ones in Death Valley, and since Mamie Eisenhower is confirmed to be returning as well, we might get to see both species of aliens this season.

I’m hoping that one of the characters Evan is returning as is indeed Kit Walker. It’s going to be so fun finding out where the aliens have kept him all this time. He doesn’t seem to be in Area 51 because we probably would have saw him there in Death Valley. I think Kit might actually be dead too and will come back as a spirit. Maybe we will get to find out where his kids are too!!

Another Evan Peters character I would like to see mentioned is Kyle Spencer. Not sure how they would write him without Zoe considering Taissa doesn’t seem to be appearing this season, but a mention wouldn’t hurt.

I’ve been seeing this plot synopsis posted on social media, but I’m not sure if this is the actual leaked plot or not.

If AHS Zone sees this, let me know!

Also how are we feeling about this plot if this is the actual plot for S13?

Fun Fact: The last two images are concept art of what the original Hawthorne School for Exceptional Young Men building looked like or would have looked like if it didn’t get burned down.

Does anybody else feel like Cordelia did a terrible job at making sure that the warlocks would be protected from society after coming out publicly about the witch schools in 2014? She is the Supreme of both the witches & warlocks, so it is her duty to make sure that both schools are protected from outside danger and anyone who might want to harm them.

And I kind of don’t like how Cordelia just came out publicly about witches but didn’t seem to inform the warlocks about that decision and if they would be okay with coming out. Neither did she ensure that they would be protected because obviously the original school got burned down by locals who hated their presence, which most likely resulted in some of the warlocks dying. The witches didn’t really seem to care or take accountability for this either, like I know yall got beef but damn. Cordelia, you at least could have made sure the warlocks would be safe 😭

It’s my only pet peeve with Cordelia being the Supreme. Let’s be real, she did a terrible job at making sure the warlocks would be safe after coming out. And the warlocks have every right to be angry at her because she most likely didn’t inform them that she would be coming out about witches being real. I would be pissed too if the school I was running got burned down because the Supreme decided to make a reckless decision.

Does anyone here feel the same? Or let me know your own takes on Cordelia not protecting the warlocks.

Considering we had Satan appear in the show a couple of times as well as the Angel of Death, I don’t think it’s much of a stretch that Yahweh himself could make an appearance on the show. Some other shows like Supernatural and Lucifer had God make an appearance for multiple episodes.

I feel like Denis O’Hare would be the perfect actor to play God in the show. He has the talent and charisma for it imo. What do y’all think?

And would God in this series be a benevolent? Or a villain like Chuck from Supernatural?

It seems like these two new witches are going to be important to the storyline this season, just like Mallory & Coco.

In apocalypse, we found out Coco’s unique power is the ability to detect danger/gluten, which later expanded into counting calories. Mallory’s unique power is Tempus Infinitum, meaning she can manipulate time on a localized scale as well as successfully time travel unlike previous witches who tried.

Any ideas on what kind of unique powers you could see Morweena & Ophelia having? I’m hoping that Morweena’s power will be related to water somehow, or Hydrokinesis. Morweena means “sea wave, or blessed by the sea” and has roots in Welsh/Celtic. Maybe Ophelia will have a powerful version of one of the seven wonders, like how Madison has op telekinesis.

I would love to see this addressed at some point, whether in a season of the show or by Ryan Murphy himself. In Apocalypse, Cordelia said that the reason why male witches can’t be as strong as the supreme is because testosterone inhibits their access to the ethereal realms where they can draw magic from.

But I wonder if this rule would apply to trans women? Technically, any witch who was assigned male at birth but identifies as a woman should be as powerful as the average witch once they take HRT or do the surgery to fully transition.

Imagine Liz Taylor as the Supreme of the Salem coven!! She would be the most iconic and baddest witch the coven has had in centuries!!

Ever since Marie died back in 2013, Dinah Stevens has been the new voodoo queen for the voodoo community since 2014, meaning that once the old voodoo queen dies, the community chooses the next most powerful voodoo practitioner as the queen. Kind of like how the Supreme works.

In Apocalypse, Dinah betrayed both the voodoo community and the Salem witches by helping Michael kill them, and then got her own tv show plus made billions of dollars by making a deal with Micheal. This is what led to her demise at the end of Apocalypse, Cordelia made a deal with Papa Legba to have Dinah killed and sent to Hell, replacing Marie’s spot.

Of course this all got erased when Mallory changed the timeline by killing Michael. So Dinah is still the voodoo queen and never made a deal with Michael to get famous. Since Marie is now resurrected again according to the teaser promo, do y’all think Marie got her title back as the voodoo queen? Or would Dinah still be the voodoo queen?

The reason I ask this question is because the first time we see a glimpse of Misty in coven, she is at some kind of Christian gathering event where she resurrects the bird. Her Christian community unfortunately saw that as necromancy, so they burned her alive. Misty also talks about being protected by the “white spiritual light”, some other characters like Billie Dean Howard and Cricket Marlowe mention this white spirit light. Whether that is the Holy Spirit/God, or some other kind of spiritual light is unknown, but it’s interesting how this light is said to protect individuals from negative spirits and bad people. With this information, I could totally see Misty being a Christian/spiritual/nature witch and incorporating that into her practices.

I also know that it’s commonly said that Yahweh/the Bible condemns witchcraft, but it’s important to remember that this is a tv show with its own mythology and is not accurate to any Biblical mythology, so God/Jesus in the series could be totally okay with witches. The Salem descendants do have similar abilities to what Jesus is capable of, mainly resurrection, healing, magic, transmutation, divination, etc. And witches in this show are the best counter to the Antichrist/Satan.

Another interesting thing to note is that Misty is so far the only witch with Resurgence/Resurrection powers compared to the other witches. She can even self-resurrect herself, the same abilities that Jesus had. And she can use her special mud to heal people, Jesus did a similar thing by using special dirt to heal a blind man. The writers seem to have intentionally included lots of similarities between Misty Day and Jesus Christ. Even Myrtle compares Misty to Jesus, saying she has resurrected more people than even Jesus himself. So this is interesting stuff to note, it’s incredible what you can notice in these seasons when rewatching them.

Ryan Murphy also stated that Misty is asexual, and Jesus was said to be celibate all of his life. So that’s another comparison thing to note as well.

If not Christian, I think Misty is just a very spiritual witch in general connected to nature/animals. So she can be considered either a nature/green witch, or a combination of both Christian/nature/spiritual witch.

Out of all the OG women from Coven, the only afterlife we didn’t get to see or hear about was Myrtle’s. We never got to know what her personal hell was like or what it would consist of.

Me personally, I don’t think Myrtle would have went to hell after burning to death at the end of coven. Myrtle hasn’t really done anything to warrant a spot in Hell for all of eternity like Marie, Madison, Delphine, and Fiona do. I know that Myrtle murdered the witches in the council, Cecily and Quentin, but they did agree to burn her at the stake for a crime she didn’t commit. And Myrtle later repented for that and agreed to be punished for her crime, so that should tip the scales in her favor for heaven or some other peaceful afterlife.

I’d like to think Myrtle maybe went to heaven after she died or some other peaceful afterlife. We know witches can go to heaven because Papa Legba rewarded Nan with a peaceful afterlife for mostly being an innocent person all of her life. And Myrtle never mentioned anything about hell after being resurrected by Cordelia. She also never mentioned Hell the first time she got resurrected by Misty in coven. Her magical abilities and knowledge also increase everytime she gets resurrected, so my theory is that Myrtle ends up in heaven or another spiritual realm after death. Even John Henry Moore mentioned having gained some knowledge after he died, so maybe witches/warlocks who are decent people in life like Nan end up in positive afterlife’s where they can access knowledge to hidden secrets or something.

Let me know your thoughts and theories!

Just think about how funny and cool this would be. Having various characters from all 12-13 seasons of AHS get pulled into an afterlife or purgatory movie theater, either by God or some other cosmic entity like Papa Legba, and they’re all forced to watch everything that has happened in the AHS universe the last 12 seasons.

The character interactions would be so campy too because of the fact that multiple characters are played by the same actors/actresses, so they would probably all be weirded out to know that there are multiple doppelgängers that look identical to each other. It would be funny to see Tate reacting to Kai Anderson and James March. Or the better versions of himself like Jimmy Darling and Kit Walker.

If Ryan Murphy did a season just like this, would yall be interested in watching it? Even though it would most likely be hard to pull off.

I still think about how silly this scene is every now and then. You got all of those witches in that room and they barely did anything against Meade and Micheal lol.

I understand that Michael was more powerful than the witches so there’s not really much they can do against him, but they could have easily taken down robot Meade lol. She literally got destroyed at the end of the season by a one word spell from Cordelia. Hell telekinesis would have easily destroyed robot Meade.

Hopefully in Season 13 we will have some good magical action scenes from the witches. This was the only thing I really didn’t like about Apocalypse.

Judging by how the Coven & Apocalypse seasons ended, it doesn’t really seem like many people took Cordelia’s outing seriously, but we do get some hints of public reaction in Hotel & Apocalypse. Such as Liz Taylor fan-girling over Queenie and a bunch of bigots burning down the warlock school.

Judging by how Liz Taylor is a fan of the witches, it got me thinking that the witches are basically kind of like celebrities now after coming out to the public. I can imagine that Cordelia’s outing got turned into a meme on social media, and a bunch of people might actually support the witches. Especially since we now live in times where being known as a witch is not seen as bad and is a trend/aesthetic for a lot of people.

In Apocalypse they’re basically the Avengers now because they saved the world from the Antichrist. Which is pretty ironic considering the stereotypes that witches are commonly associated with the Devil, but the coven is against devil worship and Satan in apocalypse. Of course the public doesn’t know the coven saved the world, but that fact would be surprising to a lot of religious folks who are against witchcraft.

And I imagine the witches are probably going to be saving the world from another cataclysm in S13, or either going around investigating supernatural incidents like how Madison & Behold went to the Murder House. The coven is essentially the AHS version of the Avengers now.

Imagine how funny it would be if in Season 13 they retcon Delicate by saying it was just a tv series starring Madison Montgomery & Kim Kardashian.

Both Anna Victoria Alcott and Madison have similar hairstyles so we can easily headcanon that this is just Madison working on a tv series after getting rescued from Hell by Mallory.

What if Cordelia decided to punish her or something by having her work on a horrible tv series, made by Ryan Murphy btw, starring Kim Kardashian 😭. Madison would pretty much be irrelevant as an actress anyway after getting out of Hell due to the public not knowing where she is for like 3 years due to her dying and being stuck in Hell. I can easily see Madison being stuck with a role like this after getting freed from hell and getting back into Hollywood.

Plus it would make sense considering Madison’s Hell was basically her own fears of basically being an irrelevant actress and people not caring about her.