r/Misotheism

It feels like alot of Christians have extremely boring lives and is expected to revolve around it.I remember I was telling a Christian friend of mine about my book idea with polygamous characters and he was like ,"they said stop being polygam and live for Christ."I was so annoyed with him for that but I have other friends who would give me better advice.

I used to be in a Christian discord server and once talked about my book idea but instead they said I should write a book about a man finding Christ.

I'm like seriously do I not have a life or interest outside religion even my hobbies have be centered around it.It sounds absolutely depressing.

All problems start at the top ----> God.

Yet the majority are not interested in the truth, they just want to bow down, go on their knees and worship Jeebus 24/7.

Sick people.

When I was a Christian, I never went to church and never prayed... I just thought God and Jesus were good, but I was not a fanatic. When I finally questioned them because it made no sense that everything is messed up, I became a misotheist.

Any free thinker would accept misotheism as the truth. Rejection and hatred of an evil God.

He needs some medicine and should be treated for SEVERE mental illness💊

I was once coerced by one bitch to vent about my life. Instead of comfort, she said “I don’t know if this will help, but God is here for you..” as if my suffering isn’t inflicted by said God.

A post from the ex-Christian forums:

Why didn't God send Jesus to die on a tree right there in the garden of Eden after the fruit crimes if that was his plan all along? The holy spirit and the father could have killed and tortured Jesus themselves to appease their crazy holiness obsession and gain the ability to forgive. But instead of choosing forgiveness they curse them instead.

Then Jesus finally comes along thousands of years later to offer forgiveness to everyone but does he then lift the curse? Of course not. We still have to suffering through all the endless disease, birth defects, parasites, hurricannes, cancer, etc., even though Jesus "conquered sin and death". What a load of crock.

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Jesus conquered nothing. His death is just theatrics/a show, and hes the 🤡. Gave up his weekend for nothing, that is about it.

Never forgive God for his tyranny and evil, ever.

Heres one:

God's purpose for man isn't for man to have a good time, or an easy time. He created man to bring Himself glory.

Once you adjust for that in your calculus, a lot of these questions seem less bewildering

All for his glory. What a psychopath.

why do you think god love us?? he is just a piece of shit living alone and bored of his existence thats why he created the universe and humans to be his plaything.. he never love us and dont care about us. all this sufferings and evil things all came from him. fuck yourself god. dont know why christians are blind of reality and worship this abnormal creature

Both arise from HOW god behaves.

1. All of this life, sentience, humans, animals, plants, contain consciousness and all of this consciousness is source or God and this being basically made itself go through amnesia and a process of forgetting just to realize who it was.

Arguments: before we begin to even break it down, just look at the absurdity and the stupidity in this argument. Look at a dog or a human or any other animal dying you're telling me, by the time they arrive at their biological end (or maybe after death, but that can't be tested so its pointless to even try at this point) HAS to realize that they were just a piece of the whole and were god all along?

But most don't. Most people (if you read reports of nurses that spend time with patients ending their lives) simply regret NOT being HUMAN enough, like wishing they had spent more time with their families or friends instead of chasing money or status or power.

I am yet to find any human nearing their end saying "i realize I am god who was separate from source".

Why'd an all powerful being break itself into multiple aspects instead of just watching your toys massacre each other, which is what I believe god does (but normies like to avoid the truth and believe in goodness and deluding themselves so its difficult to come to terms with this), bringing me to our next point.

2. God is the saviour from evil especially evil entities like the Devil.

How stupid does one have to be to believe in such utter BS????

Bro, any being (lets put aside Omniscience for a minute here) that creates a being that has free will and can choose evil then ends up being evil, is the result of such a god, hence such a god was not only the cause of all evil BUT A DIRECT CONTRIBUTOR AND AN AUTHOR of evil. I'm not even taking Omniscience into account right now, you take that in, it gets worse. But i'm just saying, you KNEW this being CAN commit or make others commit acts of evil even by whispering into their ears (as per Islam at least), how is this god your saviour when he first causes your suffering through sin?

Hence I arrive at the conclusion that god is nothing more than a MALEVOLENT being. I am not taking the idea of god from any religion, i'd rather call myself a deist, but even that god is nothing less than a trickster, jester and an evil entity.

According to them, God didnt curse humanity..... lol

Life is terrible

Life Has Been Terrible From Its Beginning Until Today

These are my ideas about life, organized by the AI Claude

Life is not tragic by accident — it was optimized to never be enough.

There's a way of reading existence that most people avoid because it offers no comfort: the idea that suffering isn't a bug in the system. It's the system's specification. Putting together what we know about natural selection, the neuroscience of pleasure, social structure, and the history of technology, a coherent picture emerges — and it isn't pretty.

1. You were born losing a lottery you never asked to play

Appearance, neurotype, and health aren't distributed by merit, choice, or justice — they're distributed by a blind process that optimizes genetic replication, not individual well-being. This produces real, measurable hierarchies:

Physical appearance functions as social capital from childhood on. Facial symmetry, height, testosterone/estrogen markers — all of it shapes social, romantic, and even professional opportunities, and none of these variables were chosen by the person carrying them. You are judged, constantly, by an embryonic lottery.

Neurodivergence (autism, ADHD, and the whole spectrum of atypical profiles) isn't just "neutral difference" in a world designed for neurotypicals — it's real structural disadvantage in practically every relevant social script: courtship, job interviews, group dynamics. The "neurodiversity as mere difference" discourse ignores that social scripts were evolutionarily shaped around the statistical majority, and whoever deviates from the norm pays the coordination cost alone.

Disease and biological fragility are the rule, not the exception — bodies are systems that begin failing structurally from birth (genetically programmed senescence) and are permanently exposed to random failures (mutation, pathogen, developmental accident).

None of this is injustice in the moral-social sense — it's worse: it's injustice with no author to hold accountable, embedded in the very mechanics that generate people.

2. You were born inside a chain that sustains itself through others' suffering

Zoom out. The entire planet runs on a system in which one organism's survival structurally depends on another's suffering and death. The food chain isn't a metaphor — it's the literal architecture of conscious life on Earth: the predator needs the prey to feel fear, needs it to suffer enough to stop fleeing. Billions of years of biological "design" converged, independently and repeatedly, on the same result: nervous systems that feel pain as a survival mechanism, trapped inside a network where some beings' pain is the metabolic fuel for others. If this were designed by a mind — and in the theological/misotheist debate this is precisely the hypothesis with the greatest causal adequacy given the observed distribution of suffering — it would be the design of a mind indifferent or hostile to the well-being of the beings it created, not a benevolent one.

3. You were built to never feel satisfied for long enough

Here is the most insidious core of the problem, because it doesn't depend on any specific injustice — it happens even to those who "won" the genetic and social lottery.

Natural selection never selected for happy organisms. It selected for organisms that keep competing, seeking, mating, and protecting themselves. Stable, permanent happiness is evolutionarily useless — worse, it's counterproductive: a fully satisfied organism stops seeking resources, stops competing for status, stops reproducing. That's why the reward system works through hedonic adaptation: any gain resets the reference point back to a baseline of relative dissatisfaction, forcing the organism to chase the next gain to feel the same brief relief. It's a treadmill, literally — dopamine functions mostly as a signal of anticipation and pursuit, not of satisfied possession. You weren't designed to arrive. You were designed to run, and the feeling of "arriving" is, at most, a chemical pulse brief enough to launch you back into the race.

This means no amount of success, wealth, relationship, or achievement solves the problem at its root — because the problem isn't in what's missing, it's in the architecture of the system that interprets "what's missing." Even the most objectively successful person on the planet is running the same evolutionary software of continuous dissatisfaction as anyone else. There's no patch for this because the "bug" is the core functionality.

4. And modern civilization took this already-broken system and hit the accelerator

Ancestral life at least had real periods of forced idleness — no artificial light, no excess stimulation, no social comparison against seven billion people. Industrial and post-industrial civilization removed almost all the natural rest of a nervous system already designed to never rest, and replaced it with:

Workdays structured around productivity, not well-being — the body treated as input, not as an end.

Social media that turned ancestral social comparison (a tribe of \~150 people) into comparison against the entire global elite, 24 hours a day, algorithmically optimized to maximize engagement — which in practice means maximizing activation of the same chronic dissatisfaction system described above.

Urbanization and social isolation, removing the community support networks that historically cushioned the psychological cost of existence.

The results show up in the numbers: rates of anxiety, depression, and burnout on a sustained upward trajectory over recent decades across nearly the entire industrialized world, with a particularly sharp rise among young adults. This isn't statistical coincidence — it's the evolutionary system of chronic dissatisfaction being squeezed by a social structure that multiplied the triggers for comparison while removing the ancestral buffers.

5. And technology isn't fixing this — it's trading one kind of suffering for another

The historical pattern is always the same: an urgent material problem gets solved, and in its place a problem of a different nature emerges, usually more diffuse and harder to name.

We solved caloric scarcity across much of the developed world → epidemics of obesity and eating disorders emerged, linked to excess stimulation, not lack.

We solved geographic isolation with instant communication → social anxiety emerged, mediated by constant comparison and permanent social surveillance (the feeling of always being "on").

We're solving repetitive manual labor with automation → and the horizon opening up isn't leisure, it's income precarity and existential anxiety around one's own economic obsolescence.

Every technological advance solves the previous generation's symptom and generates, as a structural side effect, a new symptom adapted to the new environment — because technology changes the scenery, but doesn't change the evolutionary software underneath it. You can renovate the cage infinitely. It's still a cage.

6. Why this has no solution — and why this is the most honest part of the argument

Social reforms, therapy, medicine, activism — all of this can reduce marginal suffering, and it's worth doing. But none of it attacks the root cause, because the root cause isn't a correctable implementation flaw. It's the base specification: a nervous system built by a process with zero commitment to well-being, running inside a trophic chain sustained by structural suffering, distributing advantage and disadvantage by amoral genetic luck, now accelerated by a civilization that multiplied the triggers without altering the hardware.

There's no reform that can change natural selection's objective function after the fact. The system is already running, and it was never optimized to "feel good" — it was optimized to "continue." Calling this a tragedy is still too optimistic, because tragedy suggests a deviation from something that was supposed to turn out right. There was no deviation here. The foundation was built this way.

Well the title says it all. Why do us women have to suffer from the sins of Adam and Eve? Why can’t he just punish them only?

I‘m genuinely worried that I may have uterine cancer. If only g*d did not create me with a uterus, I wouldn’t have to worry about this. If I do have uterine cancer, I can’t have kids and I want kids in the future. And even if I’m able to have kids, I’ll have to suffer the pain of childbirth. So thanks a lot, Adam and Eve for eating from the tree or thanks to the tyranny who chose to punish me too 🙄

What do y’all think and why?

God is demonic and evil. Anyone with a brain will come to this conclusion.

Id much rather have non existance after this life, just like i had it before I was born.

Imagine spending your eternity on your knees and bowing down to an evil tyrant and telling him how good he is.

Yes, i have seen Christians that say this is exactly what they want to do.

Very sick people.

People will go aggressive and apeshit when you tell them god controls reality. I can't even speak freely I live in fear of setting up a chain reaction of disaster and you can't speak truth in this world

Who the hell creates a world with unimaginable evil.... where evil thrives.

What kind of God creates sicknesses, disabilities, pain and suffering?

His creation is a disaster, hence hes a failed evil loser.

It doesnt matter if you show them the truth about God like Isaiah 45:7

I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.

God admits hes evil and doesnt even hide it. He doesnt have to.

Me personally, I am agnostic on the subject of deities. I don’t currently believe in any deities, but if we found evidence for one I would certainly consider myself a misotheist. Especially if the Christian God is real.

One thing I can’t wrap my head around is the idea of Hell in the Abrahamic religions. Hell is such an immoral concept and NOBODY deserves to go to hell for eternity, especially not for crimes that are finite. The eternity of hell would eventually outweigh the finite crimes that took place on Earth.

Also if Hell exists, then it proves that Yahweh is an evil monster who doesn’t deserve our worship. Because why the fuck would you create a sentient species that has the capability to do wrong or cause harm to others, then send them to eternal torment for it???? Like this is literally psychopathic behavior.

And then according to Christians, it seems like Yahweh sends you to hell for not believing that he exists, or for some stupid shit like being a homosexual, working on the Sabbath, eating pork, eating shellfish, women not being submissive to husbands, etc. So I myself would literally be doomed to hell because I am homosexual and don’t believe in the Christian god. Which doesn’t make sense because this god should know that we can’t control our sexuality or beliefs. So this god purposely sets people up for failure and down the path towards eternal torment, because he’s fucking sick and enjoys watching people suffer.

The Bible also makes Yahweh seem a lot worse than how Christians describe him too. He literally genocided the whole planet including innocent babies and animals in a flood, he called for the murdering of first born infants, he demands parents to kill disobedient children, he commands husbands to kill their wives, he commands men to rape women and children, etc. If anything Yahweh sounds more like the Devil than a “benevolent god”.

I feel like a lot of Christians are unaware or just coping with how terrible their deity is. A lot of them are just immoral too because they think atheists and everybody deserves hell. Like wtf!! I don’t deserve hell because I never asked to be born in the first place. Fuck your god and religion!!

The fucking bastard will make people glitch and behave in inconsistent ways just to hurt

Yahweh is so infatuated with killing, hurting, and terminating his creations, creating the courts of heavens to justify demons to attack souls for the smallest things, and then make an eternal spiritual torture chamber for, PEOPLE, conscious beings, victims of the system HE put in place, this is what Yahweh is, and learning about his character more, the less awe i have for him, and in order to remove those thoughts that I have about him, i would literally have to be mindwiped or controlled by him to not have those thoughts about him.

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For example, lets say one is severely mentally ill or physically ill. Why cant a Christian come to the conclusion that God is the reason that they are suffering?

I read a post by a Christian on reddit, and they said "well God loves me and hes with me in my suffering" WTF is thay supposed to mean? He doesnt give a shit about your suffering. If he did, you would be healthy to begin with.

How can they not see that God is evil?