u/the_savourement_

when dudes see things through these simple minded unidimensional lenses as we are discussing a nuanced issue, are they playing dumb to ragebait someone like a control thing or are guys genuinely prone to see things in black and white ?

i know they have tendencies, to see girls as the whore or the madonna, things are goood or as baad .. no grey morality .. just this or that ..

but i have had men professors who were seemingly intelligent and approached things in a more nuanced way .. so i don't want to generalize .. perhaps some just play dumb .. or perhaps these professors just had these conversations with students enough to master the topics i admired them for ..

the thing is when women talk, they contribute , and mhen men talk, they .. you know .. repeat stuff ? or make fun of you ? or call you a girl, or a feminist, or a yapper, instead of engaging with what you said ?

and i should stop getting angry, and taking them seriously, answer with memes when they sound dumb .. but sometimes it gets to me, and i wonder ..

men think they are so smart and cool that they become caricatures of who they were at their prime and never seem to go from them ..

and don"t worry guys, i am stupid too , and a yapper, and a girl ( predicting the commments ) but what can you acctually say without being insulting ?

Do you genuinely see things in black and white ? do you genuinely think two things can't be true at once ?

I'm trying to figure out the way you think

edit : comments proving my point

wanna bond over it and find out how it correlates with our deep repressed feelings and analyse our comfort characters and what it says about us ?

you guys are right, psychology taught men what women are.. men know women more than they know themselves ..

I guess we women know men more too, so i dont want to ever hear a "not all men" in this subreddit , cause women know men more..

its not judgement, misandry, its science ..

.. its okay if i say all men do is punch walls, get angry cause they are so emotional .. pour their heart out in hurting women in the internet and outside ..

every woman knows a rapist, or an abusive father, or a grooming teacher ..

i guess its safe to say, that it is not an assumption to believe that based on our shitty experiences with women. aall meen are like that ..

i mean its great, we all agree ! men know women more and women know men more !

i honestly take a vow of celibacy, i did it before, and now its confirmed, i posted how sad i was that a man would think he knows my gender more than i do and all of you agree with him ?

girls, trust your intuition, trust your experience, men hate us, they see us as mothers, wives or bitches .. and for that i will always ALWAYS assume thats what a man is unless he proves otherwise .. ♡♡♡

they already have an idea on me based on their video essays anyway so i dont care ..

any male who wanna comment you ll just confirm my point so thank you, please , show the other women your true nature ..

and women, if you take a vow of celibacy, im with you ..

you lose nothing, chase your dreams, no man is worth giving them up .. from experience, they all just very mean ..

and to them our worries mean NOTHING ..

its okay if men are lonely and cant find girlfriends, they can be sad, but when women talk about their sadness they re complaining ..

its so freeing to be able to say "ALL MEN" since they so proudly believe aaaall woooomen hahah based on black pill psychology, but we know based on LIFE ..

so yeah i agree, i agree ! :)))

you know us more and we know you more. .

conclusion is i dont want to be involved with men based on what i saw .. single women are so haaappyyyy and single men zre miserable .. i wonder why that is ?

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there is nothing that angers me more than a man, explaining to me, a woman how women work ..

based on outdated pop culture psychology ( women like bad guys nieu nieu nieu ) or a video essay on youtube with a duuude speaking :D

oh yeah im sure that guy understands women more than women do ^^ thank you

mansplaining women to a woman, wow. and where did you get that knowledge from ? a black pill man probably.

a guy wanted to tell me why girls are drawn to bad guys in media, and I genuinely explained how girls generally like deep and complex characters, that the concept of bad guy is only completed by secretively sensitive and kind, that antagonists with grey morality and depth can be comfort characters to girls .. and then he proceded to send me a video about a guy explaining how women like toxic guys ..

if you wznt to understand women, why dont you watch a woman making video essays instead ? there are sooo many .. why dont you ask your girl friends ? why dont you look at what they read ? write ? .. if you hear it from a man you have it wrong !

women are not a different specie , no we re not from venus, we are people like you ! we dont want toxic guys, we tooo fall victim to yearning for someone not interested in us and we toooo can project our ideals on a blank slate !

and goodness please dont explain women to me. women are different, they are all different, wtf dont piss me off ! i have a younger brother, sometimes he watches those pills videos and well he shows me and i try to sprinkle pixie dust of feminism here nd there, he has oldest sisters so i dont want him to end up in the wrong path,;

men who are angry and resentful .. who think bad guys in media are liked cyz they are handsome .. and that they are goood guys cursed by their bad looks while chads get all the good ladies .. i find that content so funny ngl but truly some dudes believe this so much.. we are all people born with different genitals, cmon .. our culture is shitty enough, dont add to it, baraka , baaraakaa !

if you tell me that women arent deep i ll just assume you dont know any women, my cousin from l3robia with two kids is smarter and deeper than you, dont MAKE ME ANGRY WITH YOUR RED PILL STUFF FJJSJDKZHDJVDJDVD

im so sorry im so angry , i litteraly explained the depth of that character and dude is like no if he was an ugly bastard u wouslnt like him .. yeah bro most women are readers .. most women are yearners .. and most women s type is a little bit ugly with a big nose .. we dont want lookmaxxers >:((((((((

i get so angry bro .. i litteraly get too angry .. its like im talking to a bot !

i feel so sad too ! its so unfair !

edit : males should have a licence before commenting, hit how can you be so audacious and self conceited but have nothing to say except how as a maaan, you know better o_o you love your zizi too much

how long were you in morrocco before you realised that you do not want to spend forever in it ?

what country were you drawn to ? how long did it take you to be there ?

did you start from scratch ? or continue there ?

and did you fall in love ? find your identity independantly from the culture you were raised in ?

i understand with the paperwork, the visa, the money, it is not a situation you take impulsively .. did you have people believing or not believing in you through it ? or did you tell nobody?

*pulls empathic pop corn*

it is a shitty word "loooser" , brings you back to 2000s movies where the bully calls the nerd a loser

but growing up "cool" and "loser" take different meanings :)

cool can now mean someone who is themselves a bit nerdy, one time i met an internet friend back when i was still super awkward and he told me im so cool for talking so nicely bout my friends and called me cool over stuff like being smart and stuff and it changed the way i saw things, i started seeing coll how i wanted

and looseer is now someone who isnt trying and makes fun of those who do, someone who is pessmistic and puts other people down,

i was wondering for the rest of you, who do you find coool and who do you find to be a looser ?

i never went abroad, to travel, to study, or anything, i guess when i was younger, my parents made me feel bad for studying in another city alone and i had already internalised a certain guilt that never seems to go away, the guilt of spending your parents money, at 18 cause you couldnt afford otherwise, like maybe i should have worked at a café while going to school, would it have made it more acceptable ?

i am acctually really tired, its odd, im so tired, i was such a people pleaser for so long, i was given the oddest requests, trying to make up for my guilt, i never felt allowed to be selfish, yet i was selfish, selfish for living in another city, and having my own money that barely sufficed me, selfish selfish selfish,

and when i started living with my parents again, i became even more of a people pleaser, even more guilty, guilty for wasting their money, for having tried wine, and having coffee so many times, guilty guilty guilty ,

but if i were selfish you know what i would ask for, i wanted to ask myself that, cause you know being a people pleaser doesnt make people like you more, you become evil for the few times you say no to huge requests, you become evil for saying no

when i had money i spent it on other people, i always tried to compensate, and it always felt like they needed to prove that i was not nice, they helped me feel guilty, guilty for spilling coffee on the floor for example, guilty for being late, but maybe i just felt so guilty already that them being intense about it wasnt the problem

i was such a masochist, i would never say the safe word, cuz i needed to be punished for being selfish enough to exist

worst thing i can do to someone is never talk to them again and its the best thing i can do for me, i try so hard to be relatable but in the end it seems no one understands me, it doesnt help im bipolar, a fucking contradiction, cuz sometimes i think im god, sometimes i think i deserve to be happy, no substance can give me the ecstasy i know so naturally when im manic, and i suddenly get a job with no prior experience, suddenly bag any person i find pretty, suddenly leave town with only cab money and a dream, then i think i deserve to want things, i deserve to want things,

cuz im kind most of the time, cuz i hurt nobody, cuz when i have money everyone has money, or maybe without a becuz, maybe the way a baby knows they dont have to deserve to drink milk, right now typing this, idk if im crying cuz im sad or gratefeful

i wish i could look more often at a job application believing they ll answer, i wish i could look at this city i want to live in and believe i will be there someday, i wish i could believe that i dont deserve the sad things that happened to me, that i genuinely did nothing to deserve someone being mean to me, and if i did, they should have told me ,

only validation i seek is from kids, old people and animals, it makes me so happy when a kid gives me flowers or cookies, when a cat comes dance around my leg or i sit next to an old person and they tell me their past, i know they gain nothing from me but my presence, the fact they love me gives me hope, there are so many things i dont understand

but i know that with this guilt i held on all my life, i think other people s pain is more valid than mine, or their wants are more valid, unless i get suddenly manic and all of a sudden im asking a huge company for an internship till they accept, im annoying, i think it makes sense that no one would care about me, how dare i u know ?

cuz when will i think i was punished enough and its okay to reach for the things i want for myself ? i experienced brokeness homelessness asylum mean words from family .. is it becuz im full of love ? doesnt it count cuz i still find love ? should i be stripped down of everything to say i reached rocj bottom ?

Im sorry btw im just crashing out im usually very silly im just not okay right now im sorry

so silly of me to ask, i knew a dude who after stalking his birth chart found out was a scorpio moon scorpio rising, i didnt assume it cuz he was a cutie patootie, one time on a video call we just kept staring at each other quietly and i couldnt breath i was in transe, after idk how long when we stopped hz was like ohh we should do this more often ^^

looking back when we were still strangers, we shared poetry, nd our first call lasted 4 hours, i thought we were very similar but the more i knew him the more I realised we were not, it was just that we understood each other. he is deep profound poetic.. in the way it kills me he isnt mine .. litteraly kills me .. so full of layers .. and yet so pretty cute ..

but its like the more we were less strangers, the less it was easy to open up, and the more it was easy .. to care ?

to just really care .. like i deeply cared about him..

in the end the jerk who ghosted was me ..

but i ghosted him cuz it was purely online and i felt him drifiting apart and i couldnt stand it ..

im not a scorpio moon like yall but id rather be nothing in youe life than half your friend half your company ..

i never told him how i felt , he never did either. its so stupid honestly, he said pretty things instead, like im the fantasy hz has when he sits in a bench alone the person he wishes he would talk to ..

someday i ll go to the pub he plays at, ask the barman to give him this gift from a secret admirer, then cringily run away, i hope I can wear sunglasses nd watch him play in person.

he is so cool ..

he is so cool andv spongeboby .. and deep eyes .. and contradictary ..

like cinammon ..

im a gemini moon if that matters, gemini is his venus .. i m sure he seduced many people ..

i was jusr a person online .. but we were good friends its just that my feelings made me selfish.. and time passed by ..

and i had my own life to figure out..

im wondering tho from the persepective of other scorpio moons if it is logical to you to see someone online like an entire likable person idk ..

has any of you experienced being humbled ? and started slowly dimming your light to be relatable. not too much . etc ?

i think as a young kid, i remember being so extraverted and fun, and also coquette and sweet .. they didnt contradict each other .. my favorite color was pink, i had a bag with winx club, and i was the first in class, outspoken, creative, i used to write poetry and songs and perform them in front of everyone, i used to draw comics, everyone wanted to be my friend, the guy i liked liked me back ..

when around middle school i started maybe entering teenagehood and wanted to not stand out ..

cause my kindness was deemed fake, my personality performative, weird, know it all, too much ..

i was too much ..

i never understood why, when someone who knew me as a kid asked my classmates if i was still weird, that same someonr had once given me books on my birthday, why when i gave a love poem to my crush who seemed to likr me, everyone madz fun of me, why people asked me to repeat what i said and laughed, why i would hear comments on my voice, how i spoke ..

i wanted to be relatable, i became quieter, when i started getting confidence again, dressing up again, i became a manix pixie dream girl to dudes who didnt know me, so i dimmed my light so girls didnt hate me, i seeked validation from girls most my life even tho they were my biggest bullies, as if to avenge their hatred, ever since i xas a teen, i dont think i ever had a friend who didnt try to talk or hook up with a guy i talked romantically bout, im serious, and i never blamed them , cuz i care about them more, and i had to hear "i dont understand why people love u" ..

is that the reason i didnt wear make up for so long ? or tried tl agree with everyone ? i accepted so much shit from people, ut then i would be the most evil girl in the world ciz i spilled tea on the floor oe was late .. when i had money i spent money on everyone .. when i was not fun, i was left alone. .

my whole life i tried to compensate for some resentment i never understood the root of .. growing up i know when people dislike you upon meeting you, it is cuz of something they repress.. but i tried to be so good to compensate for some evil i was nlt aware of. .

so i guess it hard when after years of loyalty it was pointless, and when its over you see how much shit you put up with. .

i was not relatable i was a pushover .. i should have worn that lipstick .. i should have said hlw i felt.. i wonder if they remember insulting me in front of people to look good. the me of now would have said "why are u lying" , i should have okly let in friends who didnt make me look weird for being optimistic or nerdy.

im not relatable to everyone, im relatablr to some people who like the same things as mr tho, and me making myself look pretty is not so bad fter spending my teen years thinking il the ugliest girl in the world

i met my preschool teachers a few weeks ago, the way they remembered me as this imaginative smart girl moved me, that me should let me lead more often.