u/thepotbelliedgod

Just having one of those Sundays.

Coupla beers in the kitchen while I cook for everyone. Brian/ Gaslight on the stereo.

Life is good. Music is good.

That's all.

Does anybody know if we'll be getting a UK pressing of They are Survived?

Shipping from the US is a killer but its very important that I own this record.

Thanks!

First of all, I love Down. One of my favourite bands of all time. I love Phil's vocals and see no need to change anything...

BUT

...we all know that Kirk and Pepper are riff lords, but they're also vocalists in their own super successful bands.

A decision has obviously been made to keep all lead vocals to Phil, I just wondered if the question has ever come up in interviews and what the response was?

I'm looking forward to the new album and saw King Diamond was singing on a track, which kinda got me thinking about all this.

We all know that the best albums of all time to drive to are Welcome to Sky Valley and Songs for the Deaf, but I need something else. I've got a couple of big drives coming up at the end of the week.

Its gotta be something that plays like an album, a full journey, not just a collection of songs. And its gotta have riffs.

The first Truckfighters album and Lowrider's Refractions are other good examples of the sort of thing I'm after.

Thanks in advance.

Not seen Alley Cats. Does anyone know the reason for casting Natalie Cassidy (other than her being a fine actress)? Everyone else in the cast has worked on previous Ricky projects, so it wasn't like an open casting. He got his old, reliable gang back together... and also Cassidy.

Reason I ask is because there is history of him casting old Eastenders stars from the 90s/ 00s (Shaun) as a joke and didn't know if this was that.

I'm a huge Hello Exile apologist. I love the album.

For context, I first got into the Menzos during the ATP album cycle and, although I had gone back and listened to their whole discography during that time, HE was my first *new* album. And the one that took us into lockdown.

A month ago it was a top 3 album, for me. I'm currently in love with EIES, so this may change.

But to the album. Anna is obviously a classic, and then the 5 tracks that follow it are a really solid block of what make the Menzingers a great band. But the album really peaks, for me, around Strain Your Memory

"And now the hotel maids were banging down the door

As if they came looking for some answers

When ya gonna leave? Where ya gonna go?

Will you get your shit together?

When are you gonna marry her?"

Its all there. The storytelling, the imagery, the personal thoughts and feelings of honest millenial self-loathing spilling out onto the page...

I also love I Can't Stop Drinking but thats another post for another day. Hits a bit too close to home...

But what are your thoughts on the album? Following ATP was incredibly difficult/ impossible, but I think its an amazing effort.

I just finished watching the (fantastic) HardLore interview with Patrick Walker of Warning. At one point, Colin asked if he keeps up with modern doom bands and Patrick said no, because it has lost the essence of what it was originally supposed to be and is unrecognisable now, relying on reductive slogans such as "Worship the Riff".

Obviously, Patrick would have grown up with the original doom bands like Candlemass, Trouble and Saint Vitus so you can understand that some modern bands that claim the "Doom" tag are quite a departure.

A similar thing has happened with 'metalcore', with pioneers like Converge, Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan sharing almost zero sonic resemblance to Bad Omens or Motionless in White. Likewise, 'Emo' has gone through a similar gigantic shift in what qualifies. So maybe its just one of those things...

Is it time to give newer Doom bands a new genre title, or are Patrick and I just old men that shout at clouds?

This is one of Brian's best songs. The S-Tier of songs written by Mr Fallon is pretty crowded but this is right up there.

I'm familiar with the tradition of mrdr ballads so it isn't new to me but it still completely breaks me every time.

Jolene is a victim in life and also (possibly) in death. Its all so unfair, so heartbreaking. God bless her.

I'm not looking for any answers here, I just want to talk about the song. What's your interpretation? Who is Vincent? Where is Jolene going?

"I'm sure gonna miss the summer..."

Hi. Long time Menzingers fan but new to this sub.

I'm sure this has been discussed before but I just wondered if there's ever been a list made of all the references to (classic) literature in Menzingers songs?

As a fan of both I've picked up a few but would love a deep dive into it all.

Everything from "Dean and Sal" in Lookers (Kerouac's On the Road) to "I was the shadow of the waxwing slain/ By the false azure in the windowpane" in The Obituaries (Nabokov's Pale Fire)

There's plenty more, I know. Is there a definitive list? Are there any on the new album?

I just love this from The Incomparable Mr. Flannery:

First we get some surgery

Lose the kids, then our identities

But one thing I know for a fact

Moustache stays right where its at

It sums up everything I love about Clutch and Neil's lyric writing. Its all right there; the imagery, the humour, the storytelling.

I could talk about amazing Clutch lyrics all day, but as a song/ album opener I think this is hard to beat.

Any others?

I'm a long-time Office fan since the first series went out 25(!) years ago but never kept up interviews and articles over the years. I've only just found this community.

Anyway, I was wondering if its ever been addressed by Ricky or Steve as to who wrote which parts in the show (I understand the overall thing was a joint effort.)

Knowing Steve's voice, his way with words and fom what we've seen in his other shows, I think its fair to assume that he wrote Gareth and also the Tim & Dawn storyline.

So did Ricky write Brent and Steve do everything else? Or is there more credit due?

Sorry if this has been answered before.

I've started thinking about a backpiece. Battle Royale is a classic, always looks sick. But what do you think about changing the animals to make it more unique?

Let's assume the design is dope and the artist kills it and looks amazing. My question is only regarding the design itself.

I'm aware of the meanings of the piece, but how culturally important is it that the bird is an eagle, that the dragon is an Eastern dragon etc?

I know it would look cool af but also don't want to walk around with something culturally inappropriate covering my entire back.

Examples: a vulture instead of an eagle. A Welsh dragon instead of the Eastern. That sort of thing.

I'm trying to think of song trilogies that share a common narrative or theme or characters but which appear across multiple albums.

This isn't about concept albums or bands, but specifically three songs on three different albums which are all part of the same story.

What I have so far;

- He is Legend - China White (2004 - 2006 - 2009)

- The Weakerthans - Virtute the Cat (2003 - 2007 - 2016)

- Metallica - The Unforgiven (1991 - 1997 - 2008)

Any more?

During my 20s I moved around a lot and worked different jobs. I was auto-enrolled on pension schemes, which I have recently merged all into one pot with Nest. The total in there is ~9k.

For the last few years I have been working in the Civil Service and the plan (though I'm aware plans can change) is to stay with the CS until retirement. The CS has its own separate pension plan, so I won't be paying any more into the Nest.

So, my question is; what to do with the ~9k in the Nest pension? Just leave it there, forget about it, until retirement? Or is there somewhere more worthwhile I can transfer it, perhaps a SIPP?

I'm in my late-30s now btw, so still a while to go until retirement.

Any thoughts appreciated.

Alright, time to brag. Which artists' entire discography do you own on vinyl?

Every studio album is fine but extra points for live albums, 7"s etc.

And the bigger the better. We've all completed Jeff Buckley's studio album discography, but who's up to double (triple?) digits for one band or artist?

Me? I've got...

- Every Time I Die

- Cancer Bats

- He is Legend

- Queens of the Stone Age

- Yawning Man

- Black Sabbath (Ozzy era only)

One or two LPs off completing a few more, too.

What have you got? Let's see 'em.

I'm a longtime Lankum fan and one of my favourite songs is The Young People. However, the last line of the chorus had always thrown me.

"It is not writ in stone

Like the walls of the chapel

And soon it is gone

Like the soft winters ___"

I have checked several online lyric sites and they are evenly split between "at home" and "apple".

Google - "at home"

Genius - "apple"

AZLyrics - "apple"

Last.fm - "at home"

Spotify - "at home"

I have The Livelong Day on vinyl, but the liner notes don't include the lyrics.

To my ear, I hear "at home". However, "apple" is a direct rhyme for "chapel". Both make sense within the context of the song.

Does anyone have the definitive answer?

The "golden generation" of a small nation, playing in red, and defying expectations, going deep into their first international tournament for decades.

The connection with the fans.

But specifically, Odegaard and Haaland are like Ramsey and Bale. One, a creative, forward-thinking CAM orchestrating the play, the other, a once-in-a-generation genius getting the goals.

Anyway, hope they batter England.