r/Jazz

I've been a huge fan of the Getz/Byrd "Jazz Samba" record for about 15 years. Recently, I just discovered a few other bossa and Samba albums and need some more recommendations. Where would you send me based on these records.

1. Jazz Samba Encore - Getz/Luis Bonfa

2. Embalo - Tenorio Jr.

3. Quarteto Novo - Quarteto Novo

4. Bossa Nova Soul Samba - Ike Quebec

Thanks in advance. Looking forward to the recs!

I’m honestly not sure if my frustration is with Frank himself or just his listeners/fans…let me explain.

I fucking love jazz. It’s probably the one thing I love most next to God. I can’t say I love my wife and kids more because I don’t have either. So yeah, jazz is my second favorite thing in the world. Which is why I get frustrated when people who aren’t super into jazz hear a song title like “It’s All Right with Me” or “Desafinado” and ask, “Oh, that Frank Sinatra song?”

Yes…those were Frank Sinatra songs; you’re technically correct. However, they were jazz songs by Cole Porter and Antonio Carlos Jobim much earlier. Frank just covered them in a much more pop and “for the masses” style.

The more I think about it, I don’t really blame Sinatra OR his audience…I’m not sure where to place the blame. He was great at covering songs. That’s a true talent. But I can’t blame his audience either because jazz is kind of a niche genre that lots of people just can’t get into…but everyone likes Frank Sinatra, so people automatically gravitate towards his songs. It’s frustrating. 90% of people don’t know who Cole Porter and Antonio Carlos Jobim…but everyone knows who Frank Sinatra is. So of course they’re going to think that these jazz standards were originally Frank Sinatra tunes…because that’s all they’ve heard.

If only his albums had listed/credited the original musicians by the song titles, and maybe if he’d mentioned them during his live performances, people would know.

He’s kind of like the Michael Bublé of the 20th century. Only in this case, I prefer his original songs like “My Way” and “New York, New York” over his watered down jazz covers, but the other way around with Michael.

Frank Sinatra was an extremely talented musician, no doubt, but he’s quite overrated in my opinion. And while I don’t think it was intentional, he kind of took away some of the glory from the original musicians. I think part of that may be because of the era we’re living in now. When he originally sang “It’s All Right with Me” in the 1950s, I would assume more of his audience had heard Cole Porter’s and/or Ella Fitzgerald’s version because it was more recent. Now that it’s the 21st century, people have only heard Sinatra’s version.

But that begs the question…why did his become more popular now? Just because it’s more recent or because people just don’t like jazz anymore?

Give me your thoughts, and don’t hate on me for disliking Frank Sinatra. I don’t dislike him; I just dislike how his modern fans receive his music. I love his original tunes.

I’m trying to branch out in my jazz listening, I tend to stay in the lane of hardbop, blues, and some fusion stuff (more fusion recommended listening would be much appreciated). I don’t go out of my way to listen to a ton of bebop, modal, or avant-garde very much.

Anything with interesting/cool piano parts is an easy win, I’m a pianist and always looking for cool piano parts to listen to. Just send me whatever you like listening to!

If this is too vague my bad.

What's one track/song/piece you'd describe this way? (jazz or not)

What would be worth listening to with eyes closed using the most powerful audio system to get completely carried away by the music?

Greatest awe-inspiring, chill-inducing, truly soul-touching and (metaphorically speaking) ego-transcending songs/compositions/music pieces of all time that transcend what's possible with music and elevate, uplift, and inspire.

Please feel free to leave multiple comments (the more the merrier!), but only include one song in each, so others can upvote.

Typo: "chills-inducing" (not a native speaker).

Tried my hand at a solo arrangement of this tune. I find it hard to do solo arrangements of ballads sometimes so this is a good challenge for me.

Just discovered Miles Davis’ - Dark Magus and am finding it incredible! Makes me realize I’ve completely neglected live records up to this point so I’m looking for recommendations.

Specifically prefer a psychedelic or funky type of fusion ala Davis or Herbie, but I’m open to anything people find exceptional. Appreciate the niche recommendations 😅

Edit: I can’t edit the title but that’s suppose to be “Live” not live. Looking for live albums!

I loveeee jazz but i like sad melancholy jazz that is not vocal. Like what would you listen too at 3am with a whiskey and a black cat, or making a deal in the alleys of new york on a rainy night but not with simple melodies i like to hear many instruments. Like a billie holiday kinda vibe.

What are your favorite trumpet / tenor sax / alto sax (etc.) sounds?

Feel free to answer about any instrument you like :)

Here are mine:

Trumpet: Miles Davis, Philip Dizack
Alto Saxophone: Cannonball Adderley, Godwin Louis
Tenor Saxophone: Stan Getz, Benny Golson
Trombone: Curtis Fuller
Piano: Gonzalo Rubalcaba, Bill Charlap
Guitar: Jim Hall, Pat Metheny (playing acoustic guitar)
Bass: Charlie Haden
Drums: (hard to say, maybe Jimmy Cobb?)

His recording “106” is pretty nice