u/todivelostmind

For anyone that has read the book:

• Both protagonists are in a frame story telling the story of their younger selves to two listeners.
• Both Ted and Kvothe are highly intelligent (Ted being a successful Architect, Kvothe being gifted Arcanist and just being Kvothe.)
• In both stories, the audience in the frame story AND the audience watching/ reading (us) are hoping the protagonists "snap" back into their old selves by the re-telling of the story. (Ted lost his big romantic gesture mid-20s personality and traded it in for maturity, kids, a wife after growing apart from his friends and all the events from the series.) (Kvothe lost his fighting ability, power, confidence, university, friends and his Name.)
• Denna is basically Robin (The on and off dynamic, the flighty, flaky, mysterious personality, Ted often opting to play the nice guy rather than get her back romantically.)
• Simmon and Willem = Marshall and Barney
• Lily = Fela (Friend, confidant, dating the best friend character.)
• Zoey = Devi (Transitioned from enemies to lovers and vice versa, In Devi's case, she at least wanted to sleep with Kvothe.)
• Mola = Stella (Both doctors)
• Hammond Druthers = Ambrose?
• Ted and Kvothe's intelligence and overconfidence is often what gets them into bad situations.

Idk. I thought of it last night and thought it was funny/ interesting. At the very least, the premise seems similar and the characters hold similar roles in the story. The overconfident idealistic somewhat naive protagonist, the loyal best friend, the on and off love interest, the frame story serving as a device to "unlock" the old protagonist.

Also from my reply in the other sub:

>Well, the ending is actually what inspired the thought. Ted decides to do one final "big romantic gesture" after>!the loss of his wife!< inspired by telling the story to his kids and them understanding what it was actually about and giving him permisison to finally be his old self again after all these years of repressing that side of him and being a father. The frame story of NOTW made me think maybe that was the point of the entire HIMYM series, Ted going back to his true old embarrasing self one last time that says "I love you" on a first date, to get the blue french horn for Robin because he realises that he forgot about that version of himself in the deep past, just like Kvothe. (Who will hopefully find his true name in book 3 and do whatever needs to be done to fix things also.)

• Both protagonists are in a frame story telling the story of their younger selves to two listeners.
• Both Ted and Kvothe are highly intelligent (Ted being a successful Architect, Kvothe being gifted Arcanist and just being Kvothe.)
• In both stories, the audience in the frame story AND the audience watching/ reading (us) are hoping the protagonists "snap" back into their old selves by the re-telling of the story. (Ted lost his big romantic gesture mid-20s personality and traded it in for maturity, kids, a wife after growing apart from his friends and all the events from the series.) (Kvothe lost his fighting ability, power, confidence, university, friends and his Name.)
• Denna is basically Robin (The on and off dynamic, the flighty, flaky, mysterious personality, Ted often opting to play the nice guy rather than get her back romantically.)
• Simmon and Willem = Marshall and Barney
• Lily = Fela (Friend, confidant, dating the best friend character.)
• Zoey = Devi (Transitioned from enemies to lovers and vice versa, In Devi's case, she at least wanted to sleep with Kvothe.)
• Mola = Stella (Both doctors)
• Hammond Druthers = Ambrose?
• Ted and Kvothe's intelligence and overconfidence is often what gets them into bad situations.

Idk. I thought of it last night and thought it was funny/ interesting. At the very least, the premise seems similar and the characters hold similar roles in the story. The overconfident idealistic somewhat naive protagonist, the loyal best friend, the on and off love interest, the frame story serving as a device to "unlock" the old protagonist.

You can probably come up with more nitpicky parallels but I'll leave it at that.

(Couldn't post this in the Scott Pilgrim subreddit for some reason.)

I was reading through some of the top posts and I feel as if Scott gets a bad rep and the standard opinion of his character has become “He’s a terrible person that has a redeeming arc by the end” but I don’t think he’s that terrible, it seems like an extreme judgement of someone’s character to deem them all-around terrible based off a few actions. He 'dates' a 17 year old, but I don’t think he would have gone through with anything physical. It can be emotionally exploitative at best but I don’t think it would have escalated. He didn’t even want to kiss Knives. When they ultimately do try to make-out they both hate it. I’d argue the same thing would have happened with Kim and Envy. If Envy said yes to the casual sex, I think Scott would have ended up backing out, same with Kim. He’s still in love with Ramona and was literally just crashing out on Wallace’s advice to have casual sex, while he was in his most avoidant and escapist state of just playing video games all day because his girlfriend literally just disappeared with no explanation.

I also want to touch on the aspect of “dating” knives. I think he was just traumatised from the way Envy broke up with him and wanted her opposite. Someone who wasn’t jaded and mean and would just be nice to him and like him without any complication, a selfish act sure, but it’s not like there was any malice behind it. He wasn’t planning to meet Ramona in advance, he wasn’t planning to break up with Knives in that fashion, he just met someone he got along with on a bus and they ended up hanging out. Not sure if that counts as actual dating. It just doesn’t seem like the big deal most people make it out to be, to me.

He mooches off Wallace, but Wallace also lets him, then ends up kicking Scott out anyway. Plus a lot of those traits are played for comic effect. Scott only owning the poster in his apartment, the joke wouldn’t work without making him look bad. Kim holds onto a grudge of Scott from high school, she judges Scott for Knives then kisses drunk Knives, Wallace steals Stacy’s boyfriend, Envy leaves Scott to be a superstar… Everyone is being morally reprehensible and accurate for that age group. I think he’s characterised as a misguided twenty-something and occasionally a dick, but terrible is just too demeaning a final judgement. He’s a human being, we all live in moral grey areas. There have been more morally reprehensible characters in fiction more deserving of the title.

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