Which angle of approach do you lean more into? Or are you taking a balanced approach?

For context :

Jainism can be studied by 4 main angle of approaches, they are called Anuyog.

  1. Prathamanuyog - stories, biographies, examples and historical or legendary accounts
  2. Karananuyog - cosmological / mathematical / karmic-process approach
  3. Charananuyog - conduct / spiritual-practice approach**
  4. Dravyanuyog - Metaphysics, absolute nature of reality, substances, etc.

(You can check out my attached digital wiki like interconnected notes on it to dig deeper.)

So my Question is do you find yourself leaning more onto one anuyog?

Ideally I feel all the anuyogs compliment and empower each other hence they all should be leveraged in a balanced way, but wanted to gauge how y'all are going about it!

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u/unchainedcycle — 13 days ago

How are you calculating ITC Hotels cost of acquisition when the original ITC shares were bought before 2018 and purchase records are unavailable?

Need help with a practical tax dilemma.

My father bought ITC shares before 31 Jan 2018 through a small broker. Those holdings were later transferred to Zerodha, and unfortunately neither we nor the old broker have the original purchase price records anymore.

After the ITC Hotels demerger, he received ITC Hotels shares and sold them in FY 2025-26.

The issue is that Section 49 requires the original ITC acquisition cost to be allocated (86.49% to ITC and 13.51% to ITC Hotels), but I don't have the original cost.

My thought was to use the 31 Jan 2018 FMV as the base instead, since grandfathering already deems that as the cost for pre-2018 ITC shares. For example:

  • ITC FMV (31 Jan 2018): ₹276/share
  • Allocate this using the official ratio:
    • ITC: 86.49%
    • ITC Hotels: 13.51%
  • So if he had 10 ITC shares then cost as per FMV was 2760.
  • After demerger, the 10 ITC shares would become 10 ITC and 1 Hotel,
  • So the cost splits like:
    • 86.49% of 2760 = 2387.12 in ITC and
    • 13.51% of 2760 = 372.8in ITC hotel
    • Since he had 10 ITC shares, I would divide it by 10 to get per share value of 238.71 for itc and for hotels it will directly be 372.87.

However, ChatGPT argued that this is not legally correct, because the FMV is only a deemed cost for computing gains on ITC under the grandfathering provisions and does not replace the original acquisition cost for the purpose of demerger cost allocation.

So my question is:

If you held ITC before 2018 but don't know the original purchase price, how did you compute the cost of acquisition for ITC Hotels? Did your CA/broker use FMV, reconstruct the original cost, or follow some other method?

PS: I posted about it last year but had wrong FMV and also chatgpt highlighted it to be wrong hence posting again. - https://www.reddit.com/r/IndianStockMarket/s/M9tI4FALpL

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u/unchainedcycle — 3 months ago

Jain practitioner trying to understand the mechanics of hypnosis and whether meditation can reduce suggestibility.

I'm about to begin what will probably be a long journey studying hypnosis, NLP, suggestion, attention, and the psychology of the human mind. Before I start buying books and diving in, I'd love some guidance from people who have spent years studying this field.

I've already gone through this subreddit's wiki, but I couldn't figure out which books focus on the mechanics of hypnosis rather than just how to perform it or use it therapeutically.

To explain where I'm coming from:

I'm a Jain. One of the central ideas in Jain philosophy is that our perception and actions are constantly influenced by passions, attachments, delusions, and deeply ingrained conditioning. These are described through the concept of Mohaniya Karma, not something I expect everyone here to believe in literally, but you can think of it as the forces that bias, entice, or "pull" the mind away from clarity and conscious choice.

My interest is understanding whether the human mind has inherent vulnerabilities that make it susceptible to suggestion, persuasion, and conditioning, and whether those vulnerabilities can be consciously strengthened against.

There's also a Jain meditation tradition called Preksha Dhyan. My current hypothesis is that it may be training some of the same underlying cognitive or neurological processes that influence suggestibility. I don't know whether that's actually true, or whether I'm simply seeing patterns where none exist. That's one of the things I hope to find out through study rather than assumption.

My goal isn't performance, entertainment, or even therapeutic practice—at least not yet.

I want to understand the theory and mechanics first.

Questions I'm trying to answer include:

  • What exactly makes the mind susceptible to hypnosis or suggestion?
  • Which cognitive processes or neurological systems are involved?
  • Is there any consensus on what changes during hypnosis?
  • Can suggestibility be consciously reduced, trained, or regulated?
  • Are there books that explain the science and mechanisms in depth rather than simply teaching induction techniques?

I do not want superficial answers and I am willing to do the grunt work of reading multiple books, through this post I do not need direct answers but guidance on how to go about it.

For now, I don't intend to practice hypnosis on anyone or even attempt self-hypnosis. I'd rather build a solid theoretical foundation first, then discuss my understanding and conclusions with experts and knowledgeable people in my own circle before experimenting with anything practical.

If you were starting from scratch with the goal of understanding the science and mechanics of hypnosis, not becoming a performer or therapist, which books, papers, or resources would you recommend?

Thanks in advance. I'm looking forward to learning, and I'm equally happy to discover that some of my assumptions are wrong if the evidence points elsewhere.

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u/unchainedcycle — 4 months ago

27 [R4R] Online - Anyone else who is done enjoying life and has gotten passionate about something?

Okay I will start with my story, I am a Software developer based out of Pune.
I feel I am at that spot in my life for last couple of years where I have tried all the stuff that was labelled "cool" by my generation (well not everything, but a lot of it) and after going through em, I have realised that all these do not interest me that much.
All the club hopping, luxury maxxing, dating, gaming, parties, Social media influencing, blogging, Series/movie binging, cafe hopping, Hotel surfing, travelling, etc. are not enticing to me anymore. I find it all very transient and superficial.

I am a minimalist and I own very basic things, do not crave a lot of money or anything for that matter. I cook my own simple satvik food, at times repeating things for months, without getting bored. I hardly go out apart from office. I do play sports but I am minimising it now to an hour a day only (Used to play for 5-6 hours and at times 3-4 different sports in a day). And for anyone from outside observing me, they would probably feel pity towards my boring life.

But I have never been more passionate about learning things! I am studying jainism, Neuroscience, Biology, Mathematics, Physics, Music, and what not! I connect with any passionate person and I instantly make notes on what to explore next! I am building my second brain using obsidian's backlinking notes (you can checkout my profile for more deets) and I am loving this phase of my life where I am not chasing dopamine from transient things which do not add value in my life in the long term.

With this post I intend to attract more people like myself who are super passionate about something lately, so much so that they have cut down all sorts of external transient dopamine distractions. I have been guilty of using Social media, series, movies, gaming and dating to chase the dopamine highs, and all of them very repetitive traps that kept me hooked to em. I feel I am finally free from it for past year or so. And I want to be around more such folks so I learn and grow with em.

So if you are one. Hmu, share your (hopefully healthy) passion and we will propel each other!

Btw, this video summarises my intent very well -

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u/unchainedcycle — 4 months ago

Let's gamify and simplify some complicated concepts as we dig deep into them in our swadhyay to make it easier for our and others' understanding!

Tldr: Let's build a site with concepts, a lab to play and truly accept the concept and some QnAs for that concept.

We can collaborate on this open source project, we can brainstorm together and build more ways to visually help people absorb these concepts.
I picked this concept coz this is one of the most confusing ones of all, the whole debate of free will can be resolved with the true understanding of nimitt upadaan and 5 samvaay. Our mental peace will also enrich with understanding of these concepts in our day to day actions and the way we analyse the outcomes.

DM me if you want to play with this to understand this concept or DM me if you wanna collaborate and build more such concepts!


PS: I am constantly learning more and more concepts across jainism, psychology, neurology and all sorts of lenses that I can find.
And I feel I can enrich everything much more down the line and present a more multifaceted view, which allows us all to take a dig at understanding if not all atleast some aspects of the core complex multifaceted truth.

Take a look at this post to understand about my journey and ping me if you wanna chat about anything !

u/unchainedcycle — 4 months ago

Easy meal routine for a Jain working professional

Just stumbled on the sub, and thought to drop my current food schedule.

I tried different cooks and they all tend to make unhealthy food, pour in litres of oil in food within weeks, they don't wash hands and utensils properly if not monitored and the drama of food preferences just made it very difficult to continue.

So I had to take matters into my own hands.

I have been studying Jainism a lot lately, and I see food being a big part of how we think and act in life, infact food is if not the biggest, then surely one of the biggest strong kashay and karm bandhan source.

So I tried coming up with satvik food, I have given up my cravings for taste so I can very well survive on the same food. But I include variety out of need for nutrition.

I am an ectomorph, and I play sports too, so I need to take extra care else I turn into a skeleton very easily, I tend to do unodri as well, so number of meals are important.

In case you are curious about Jain food and diet and correlation of it with modern nutrition science hmu, I made a course on it(using AI and referring to actual human made references) and am studying using it.

Here's my list of dishes:

  • Morning pre-breakfast - soaked dry fruits (munakka, apricot, peanuts, walnuts, almonds)

  • Morning Breakfast - Dahi with soaked poha or Upma or suji Dhokla

  • Lunch - Boiled chana, corn chaat with cucumber and tomato(if I am going to office) else besan or moong chilla, or khichdi

  • Dinner (before sunset) - usually Khichdi or chilla or daliya

In between I sneak in fruits, protein shake, Sattu ka drink, and snacks like makhana, jowar or ragi murmura, roasted chana, peanuts, khakhra, etc.

I make sure I do not eat anything with sugar and oil, and root veges. I try not to make any virudh ahar as per ayurveda so things get tricky there as well.

Please share more of your meal ideas to enrich my list!

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u/unchainedcycle — 4 months ago
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Quick question for you guys: Does lucid dreaming cost too much energy by waking up the prefrontal cortex, and impact natural or efficient recovery?

I meditate and I stay extra vigilant on observing my feelings and actions. I dig deep at micro thoughts and make sure I think right. Even if I think about something wrong, I willfully make sure that I do not do anything wrong. It can be in micro decisions of greed for getting a little extra food, making a small lie for convenience, acting out of lethargy, or preferring myself over others.

In the quest of being able to monitor and be on top of everything that I do, I realized dreams are a big gap. This is why I got introduced to lucid dreaming.

A part of being vigilant is knowing what does what before doing it. I am in that stage of lucid dreaming where I am figuring out what it does in terms of neuroscience. I have been studying "Why We Sleep" and some other courses connecting meditation with sleep neuroscience and Jainism.

>Here is what I understand so far, and I want to ask some practical questions based on this.

We have different brain regions responsible for different things.

  • During normal sleep, a few parts hibernate and others continue to work, like the glymphatic system flushing out toxins or the hippocampus converting short term memory to long term memory.
  • There is also a part of the brainstem that blocks motor commands, which induces temporary paralysis so we do not act out our dreams.
  • During Rapid Eye Movement, or REM sleep, our brain experiences a dramatic shift. The emotional and sensory regions, like the amygdala and the visual cortex, become hyperactive.
  • Meanwhile, the logical and self aware centers, specifically the dorsolateral prefrontal cortex, go numb.
  • This unique imbalance creates highly vivid dreams while stripping away our ability to control them or even realize they are bizarre.
  • When we lucid dream, we essentially force that dorsolateral prefrontal cortex to wake up and fire high frequency gamma waves, which are usually reserved for intense, waking focus. We are keeping the logic and self awareness centers active while the rest of the REM brain functions normally.

Because the brain is running this extra machinery when it is supposed to be (or maybe not supposed to be but is usually) resting, I have a hunch that lucid dreaming might cause a notable energy loss and leads to inefficient sleep. It feels like we are forcing a processing unit to run overtime.

I want to know the practical implications of this from the community.

Questions:

  1. As a practitioner, do you feel you do not wake up fresh after a lucid dream? Do you ever feel hazy during the day, sleepy, or notice any issues with memory consolidation?
  2. Since mindfulness and meditation naturally increase our waking vigilance, do you find that high lucidity in dreams starts to disrupt your deep, non REM restorative sleep over time?
  3. For those who lucid dream frequently, how do you balance the mental energy cost of directing your dreams with the brain's biological need for complete, unconscious rest?
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u/unchainedcycle — 5 months ago

I have seen a few free will debates, and that made me wonder about the Jainism POV, do share your thoughts on it!

Understanding the boundaries beyond which free will lies is one of the most practical mental exercises we can do. It is about being able to spot exactly where free will does not exist for an individual in a particular situation and figuring out how to leverage the free will we do have. A beautiful side effect of mastering this is developing equanimity. When we understand these boundaries, we can finally get rid of the hurt we feel when we observe someone doing wrong to us or to themselves.

Pick any free will debate (for reference check this out). You will usually find two sides.

  • Those who oppose its presence, like thinkers who argue for hard biological determinism, claim that everything we do is simply a chain of events, genetics, and mental biases building up throughout our lives. They argue that all those chained events lead to a particular decision and what we think of as free will is just us fooling ourselves.
  • Those who say we have free will often talk about gross levels and boundaries. They acknowledge social conditioning but argue there is a line beyond which a person has control. The tragedy happens when that line is pushed too far back. For example, a man once went on a terrible killing spree but left a note explaining he was completely out of control and wished his brain to be analyzed after his death. For that person, his free will could only allow him to write the note and acknowledge the problem. His free will was not strong enough to stop him from doing the act or to seek help.

Jainism makes this boundary line much more granular with far less vagueness.

As per Jain philosophy, we are born with certain effecting karmas that set our baseline parameters.

  • Think of Naam karm which dictates your physical body and genetics.
  • Or think of Gotra karm which sets your environment and societal status. We also have Ashata vedniye karm which brings situational pain or discomfort. If you are born with a genetic predisposition to a certain illness, that is a boundary where your free will is restricted.
  • Then we have got Mohniye Karm, that triggers certain instincts, all it does is trigger things, and acting on them can very well be controlled using free will (sometimes very obvious, and sometimes it takes a lot of mental strength). One needs to amp up their mind to be vigilant and not give in to the wrong instincts.

We also have the concept of Nikachit karma. This is where free will takes a back seat. Nikachit karma refers to the karm particles that are almost impossible to change and would most probably give its fruits to full effect. Notice the word almost. This means there is a degree of nikachitness to things. If an unavoidable accident or a sudden market crash wipes out an opportunity, that event might be heavily bound by Nikachit karma. Your free will cannot stop the event itself from unfolding in that exact moment.

But Jainism is not fatalistic. It gives us the precise tools to transform karma where free will actually lives:

  • Remember the mohniye karm? It can very well trigger us, but if we are mindful and have mentally strengthened ourselves (naturally or through building and following certain practices) we very well can excercise free will!
  • You can use Apvartana to decrease the intensity of an upcoming karma. For example
    • Imagine your past actions have compounded into a karma destined to cause a massive career or financial crash.
    • But through your current free will, you rigorously build a disciplined routine, diversify your skills, and cultivate deep emotional resilience.
    • When the karma finally executes, it does not wipe you out. The impact is downgraded from a life altering crash to a temporary and manageable drawdown.
    • You absorbed the shock because you used your free will to change the parameters before the event triggered.
  • You can also use Sankraman to transmute karma into another, less harmful form. Basically it allows you to refactor the karmic code so it outputs a different result within the same category.(At least that is what i understand I definitely want to read more about it and leverage it in my life). For example
    • Suppose you have accumulated karma that is set to manifest as intense physical suffering or illness.
    • Through deep and focused spiritual exertion you can transmute that karma.
    • The karmic energy still has to be spent, but you convert it from a passive and debilitating disease into the controlled and purposeful exhaustion of building something difficult.
    • You completely changed the nature of the output.
  • You can even use Udirna to trigger premature fruition.
    • Think of it like voluntarily paying off a debt early.
    • By taking on minor hardships or austerities, you shed the karma on your own terms before it matures and blindsides you.
    • It is like triggering a stress test on your own terms.
    • You know a heavy karmic toll is waiting in the pipeline so instead of letting it hit you at a random point in the future when you might be completely vulnerable, you use your free will to pull it forward.
    • You voluntarily take on severe austerities, intense fasting, or deep introspective isolation.
    • You force the karma to execute early in a controlled environment where your mind is prepped and fortified, shedding the weight before it can blindside you.
    • Fun fact, I often see it as psychologically strengthening also, coz if you have trained yourself on intentional hardships, then even when they are forced on you, it does not affect you that intensely !
  • Another massive area of free will is eliminating the nimitt. If you know a certain environment or conversation acts as a catalyst to trigger your anger, your free will is simply choosing to walk away. You observe the trigger with shudh bhaav instead of reacting to it.

Now let's talk about the POV. You can either be the subject or the observer of this phenomenon.

  • As a subject
    • If you are lethargic, ill informed, and non vigilant, it is very easy to fall into the trap of thinking that there is no free will.
    • But if you really do self introspection and probe into things while eliminating laziness, you will figure out the exact line beyond which your free will exists.
    • You can train yourself to act in ways so that the events in the "absence of free will" area do not affect you.
    • Infact you can train yourself to drag that boundary short and expand your areas of free will! Coz let's face it, this whole thing is very individual and personal, and hence tweakable!
    • It might be a slow process to build and strengthen this mental model. It requires effort and discipline. But it is possible!
    • So the solution to the Subject POV is self improvement, there are many ways, if you are curious, you will find ways, whether out of jainism, psychology, self help books, or your nutritionist or gym trainer or life mentor or just some guy on youtube! You can find ways for sure, my intent was to show you that its possible from Jainism pov and show you examples irl to feel the free will !
  • As an Observer
    • When you see someone giving in to their fate or letting the absence of free will area expand in their life, you cannot always do much.
    • Often times they are so engrossed in lethargy that you cannot shake and wake them up.
    • It becomes especially tricky and hurtful when they are your closed ones. You see them doing things which hurt them, and when you try to help, they become stubborn.

Now let's talk about the solution to the observer POV. Coz once you fix yourself in any particular thing, the moment you see someone doing it wrong, just acts an itch that you want to fix. Some might smirk at others, but the wholesome ones, they genuinely feel empathy and feel bad for others not being able to fix things. They see their past reflection in them and take it as their duty to help them, thinking if someone had helped them in their past, it would have been so nice!
Here is what can help in fixing your mental state when you observe this lack of free will in others.

  • First, overcome the attachment with others.
    • Understand that giving importance to the feeling of attachment is in a way giving in to the lack of free will yourself.
    • Meditating on Ekatva Bhavana helps you realize that everyone is on a solo karmic journey.
    • This does not mean that you do not help others, you should be open to help but tone down that empathy to the level that if you are not able to help them or if they are not listening to you or are being stubborn and even self sabotaging, it does not affect you!
    • Even while observing, do not forget that you are also a subject.
    • Whenever you see yourself putting on the hat of the observer, swap it with the hat of the subject and analyze your own stance.
    • Fixing yourself is always the first step.
  • Second, accept their boundaries.
    • Even if you overcome attachment, or even if you lack empathy for someone, you still might be left with the lingering feeling that if someone near you undergoes problems, it might affect you.
    • The line of thought might go something like "Their bad phases might affect me, so shouldn’t I intervene and help them avoid catastrophes in their lives which could potentially affect me as well in future?"
    • Even if it is not because of Excessive empathy or fear of being affected by their ill fate one might think "Even if they are being stubborn about it, I should force the right thing so that it is better for them!"
    • Notice how you might be imposing your will on them, ruining their free will at this point. Also risking your relationship with them, and most importantly you might not know their baselines, nikachitness of their karm or even bluntly saying, you might not be wise enough to know what's right for them!
    • Equanimity in accepting what falls upon you or someone by understanding it is your own karma is the ultimate key here.

tldr: Jainism gives us a highly precise boundary for free will. You cannot change your baseline environment or unavoidable past karma. However, your free will lives entirely in your ability to modify how that karma executes by reducing its impact, transmuting it, triggering it early on your terms, or avoiding bad triggers altogether. The core takeaway is to use your free will to improve yourself while finding peace in the fact that everyone else is on a solo karmic journey.


I write blogs, but I do not post them.
I am constantly learning more and more concepts across jainism, psychology, neurology and all sorts of lenses that I can find.
And I feel I can enrich everything much more down the line and present a more multifaceted view, which allows us all to take a dig at understanding if not all atleast some aspects of the core complex multifaceted truth.

Take a look at this post to understand about my journey and ping me if you wanna chat about anything !

u/unchainedcycle — 5 months ago

27[M4R] Pune/India -Looking for passionate intellectuals who are obsessed with learning.

Hey!

I am a software developer, but I am obsessed with physical, mental, emotional, financial, intellectual and spiritual health! And hence I easily get obsessed with learning all sorts of things.

Learning complex things, interconnected domain, finding common patterns across Jainism, Sciences, psychology, other philosophies, etc. Is something that I take as my life goal.

I've got endless topics to study, hence I have made different systems to organise it, build workflows to research and absorb them properly, ways to retain them and inculcate them in my life as well.

But this journey can feel lonely at times, so looking for other passionate folks who would like to just converse on things, be it our learning frameworks or just specofoc topics or domains that we are going gaga over at a particular time.

You can check out my last post to get a reference of what I am talking about when I say learning frameworks.

My intent is not to give unsolicited gyaan to someone else, the intent is to meet curious intellectuals and inculcate their good habits and mental models in my life, and in exchange share my experiments and processes.

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u/unchainedcycle — 5 months ago
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Optimizing my Jainism Learning workflows, share your pipelines as well!

TLDR: I’m deeply passionate about building better systems for learning instead of just consuming information passively. In this video, I share how I’m experimenting with tools like Obsidian, AI-generated study modules, interconnected notes, and philosophy-driven learning to truly understand, retain, and apply knowledge in real life. I also talk about how I connect ideas across domains like Jain philosophy, Biology, Neurology, Psychology, logic, software engineering, music, mental models, etc. while documenting everything as a growing “second brain.” If you’re into self-learning, knowledge systems, PKM(Personal Knowledge Management), deep thinking, or intellectual exploration, you might find this interesting.

PS: I am sharing this at the risk of exposing myself to comments like "You are overcomplicating learning" and "This is a waste of time".
The only reason I wanted to do this is to find more folks who are taking learning in similar lines to mine and are building workflows to optimize their journey.

Feel free to ping me to brainstorm more on these or just have a casual chat around jainism :). Always up for a wholesome chat :)

u/unchainedcycle — 5 months ago

Please help me with your hack to get to airport cheap.

Some groups for car/can pools, blah blah type apps, etc.

Or in case someone is going tomorrow for 8pm flight, lemme know, we can split.

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u/unchainedcycle — 6 months ago