Mandi on TikTok has told me to go the SR route but I already had an appt with bicycle health and I don’t like lying so I just did what the doctor said and started subs. I should’ve listened to Mandi.

I have severe and permanent long thoracic nerve damage. I’ve been through it medically and am an abandoned pain pt. My doctor retired.

I’ve been on 7 abt 8 months. Anywhere between 700mg-1000mg.

Anyway I’m on day 3 of subs, just finished 48 hours. My fucking shoulder feels like I’ve been stabbed in the back. I took 32 fkn mgs the first day. 24 day 2. I only have 3 strips left until my next appt tomorrow.

I ordered some SR yesterday and it will be here tomorrow. I was debating quitting the subs and just doing a taper. Then I fucking found a God damn tab I didn’t know I had and I took that bihhh. 😭 it barely helped despite it being over 14 hours since my last strip. I fucking hate myself and my body. Someone tell me what to do please

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So i’ve been on sr-17 for about 2 weeks now I started tapering off 7-oh while taking sr-17, I can tell you the sr-17 really does help. I’ve been 7 days sober off 7-oh and still have little to no motivation to even get out of bed, It’s hard standing or walking for long periods of time, and I have almost no energy to do anything. Every time i’m out of the house the days feel grey and things feel hard, will this pass ?

How has your quit went, did you go cold turkey or taper and how long have you been sober ?

HOW I EASILY GOT OFF 7OH. Just gonna tell you MY experience I got myself down to about 120 mg a day of 7oh for about two months..knowing the ban was coming I was terrified I have an almost one year old daughter who means everything to me, just got a decent job in April and things with my girl are very rocky so my anxiety and fear was through the roof. I used to do Heroin/fent and coke for 15 years I was clean 3 years when I finally cracked and tried em knew immediately I fell off the wagon and used for almost a year. Anyway I knew they would be banned and I was dreading it but also in a way relieved because I hate how they ended up taking over my life after only a short time so I bought 5 Suboxone strips (8mg/2mg) and prepared for the worse. I took a week off of work gave my boss a bs excuse about a medical procedure and he was cool. I took my last dose at 5AM Saturday and by 1 pm I was feeling the WDs they honestly weren't terrible and I was trying to sleep as much as I could but by 7pm (14 hrs after last 7 dose) the sleep was over and I was feeling pretty crappy so I took 8mg of sub I was scared because I put myself in Precips two times in life when I was on fent but I also knew I had enough subs that I could take more and try and fight the Precips off if I did get them and also IN MY EXPERIENCE Precips are terrible and you feel like dying but they make the WD process end in a much shorter time (again MY experience) so I forged ahead, after 20 mins I felt a relief wash over my body because I was feeling better and no Precips, in an hour I was moving around almost ready to work out. I went and ate some good food and slept like a baby and the next morning I called my boss and told him my plans got cancelled and I could come back to work. 😁😁😁😁😁 Guys let me tell you this was one of the happiest days of my life I got off this bullshit 7 and barely got sick I've been taking 2 mg of sub every night since then (5 nights) and I really wouldn't have taken them if it wasn't for my physically demanding job as I wasn't feeling bad at all mostly just fatigue. Last night was my last sub dose and I'm fine and dandy working, living and taking care of my baby. There is light at the end of the tunnel guys and it really feels to good to be true considering all my horrible experiences of WDs from heroin and fent but honestly I looked back at my life and said damn I should've done this with the subs a loooong time ago. Anyways just wanted to share my journey of how I (fairly) easily got off 7.

(Specific questions are numbered below if you dont feel like reading.)I just need people to talk to about this, because Im so deeply ashamed for getting in this situation (again) and Im afraid my husband will leave me. I have a history of abusing my prescriptions—mostly stimulants and one time in particular I almost lost my husband over Ambien a few years ago. Nothing “hard” or illegal—i have a healthy fear of that. But, Im just always searching for something that will make me feel normal and functional, it’s as simple as that, but Ive done it so stupidly and fucked with my brain, I domt even know what my baseline is anymore. 7-oh was a godsend, I thought. Until it wasnt, of course.

My husband has no idea I take it, but he suspects something is going on, which he’s right to. Recently we had a huge argument about my inconsistent mental state and how he suspected I was doing it to myself again and he felt he was married to an addict and didnt know how much longer he could stay with me in this state.

Folks, I cant tell you how distressed I was to fix myself IMMEDIATELY. The terror that he’d see me in a depressed state or that id wake up one morning unable to function again and that it would be the straw that broke the camels back was instant motivation to quit cold turkey, for real, no looking back. But, it turned out to not be that simple.

See, he doesnt know Im on the shit. So I cant go through withdrawals openly. I quit twice in the past because it was expensive and at that time I could. The first time was pretty easy with my stimulants and sleeping meds for support. The second time was harder because of relentless RLS at night. Now Im here.

I want to know your experiences and maybe whats “normal”or be given some reassurance that Im headed in the right direction as I have been tapering the last three weeks.

I was taking 12-15mg dose around 5 times a day. After three weeks Im down to 8-10mg 2-3 times a day.

1. Is it possible im past the worst “physical” stuff? When ive quit in the past cold turkey, once I got past the 24 hour mark everything was gravy. Im down to 8-10mg 2-3 times a day, which doesn’t sound like that much progress, but actually what feels important to me is Im able to go as long as 16-17 hours without any physical symptoms (no more sweating, shaking, or RLS—knock on wood) when it used to start after 4 hours…then 12 hours… Does that mean Im past the worst of the physical stuff?

2. is it ok to taper with full spectrum kratom extract and if so how much? the anxiety is INSANE this go-round and that has been the only thing slowing me down. Im avoiding my adhd meds, now, obviously, bc of that, but the anxiety and panic are so bad I cant think of anything else. The problem is, I still have to function as an adult (im a lawyer with high pressure deadlines), care for three little boys, and dont forget i have to act happy and sane so my husband is assured of my stability. So, the taper has stalled for several days, and that mightve been fine, but NOW i cant buy it anywhere to stretch out the taper, bc of the ban. So, I got so desparately insanely panicked (like blind from panic) I went and bought full spectrum kratom extract tablets with “very little” 7-oh in it (thats what the salesman told me, “very little”—who knows what that means.) Will it help? If a 10mg dose of 7-oh helps my symptoms, how many mg should i be taking of the full spectrum stuff if i end up needing to use it as a substitute?

3. Am I making progress? When Im in a good state of mind (usually after my tapered dose) I feel that I have bc yesterday i went from 7pm all the way til 11:30am the next morning with no problemsz However , the anxiety got so bad I had to take a dose. The positive thing is that I was able to find relief with a smaller dose—unfortunately, it didnt last very long. I dont know if thats any better, if I have to end up taking the smaller dose more frequently. So when my anxiety is at its peak, i despair thinking i havent ACTUALLY made any progress and that it will never end.

Thanks for reading. I hope someone is out there who will help me feel not alone in this and keep me moving forward confidently .

My story with this is crazy. I’ll make it quick. In May, my husband lost his career as a law enforcement officer.. and my daughter’s rare disease was trying to come out of remission. We were really hitting hard times. Before then, I was prescribed Effexor for depression and anxiety. It started making my anxiety worse and my doctor prescribed me Klonopin. I wanted more than that because, chemically, I was getting more panic from the Effexor than usual. I was taking only a very small dose of 7 every now and then. Then I was taking 2 mg of Klonopin. After about 3 months, 7 got banned and my doctor ripped me off my pills. They INCREASED my Effexor and I was cold turkey off 250-300 mg of 7 AND Klonopin simultaneously. And also forgetting to take my EFFEXOR and getting serotonin discontinuation syndrome. Doctor wanted to take me off my Effexor cold turkey as well which is EXTREMELY hard to do.

I am actually traumatized by this. I am never doing anything ever again. I felt a tangible darkness. I felt like I was in hell. Literally. Prayers for me. It was by the grace of God that I’m not doing worse than I should have been. Built different and feel like I literally have PTSD from this. At 9 days right now.

To those of you that haven’t yet with the upcoming ban looming please do yourself a favor and get yourself some SR-17018 at the minimum a gram and a half so you can have an easier time coming off 7oh, do it in the next couple days if not today before it also gets banned. It is cheap compared to 7oh if you need help with finding a vendor please let me know !

basically what i said its friday eoukd it be out by tuesday

Look I understand addiction and I understand some drugs are fun. This is by no means a talking down but I just want to ask you, I want to seriously ask you. How did you start letting yourself use daily at heavy doses?

Was it the same old op story of “it just took more and more until I was standing on a mountain of 300mg a day to even feel alive.”

Or was it

“I was in a hurting place and found this and it just became a destructive relation.”

I’ve dealt with grief so deep I went into my own sadness and and suffering but I just couldn’t ever allow myself to do something more than two three days and then quit for a bit as I knew I’d develop dependency. I just want to understand other people and how they fell.

I’m genuinely curious. We know what these compounds are and we’re all children of the web. Why did you let yourself use so much or do you feel like you lost control legitimately?

Why did you allow yourself to keep going after the 3rd day?

Here’s my quick story:

I’ve been taking Kratom but mostly 7oh for years. In may of 2025 I went to treatment for my 1200mg/ day habit and got clean for about 9 months. I relapsed for a couple months and got back up to 1200mg/ day. I went to detox May 2026 and got clean for about three months. When I found out that 7oh was about to be federally banned I went ahead and bought some without any second thought. I’ve been doing about 350-500mg/ day for 7 days.

I finally ran out of 7oh thank god. Do you think the withdrawals will be bad after just a week long relapse? Let me know. The first time I got clean I was detoxing for 14 days of misery I just don’t want to experience that again.

5 days . Of absolute hell. I was on over 1000mlg of this evil 7 shit.. they banned it in my county by the grace of god. So i knew it was coming.. im still on a few 100 mlg a day tapering slowly cause my body is still so weak from the withdrawals. Im so embarrassed to admit to i was buying an obscene amount of nitrous oxide to calm my nerves and escape the misery.. I DO NOT CONDONE OR RECOMMEND THIS. but i had to do what i had to.. slowly i starting doing less and less of the nitrous until today i can say im nitrous free.. it was not fun. And on top of all this being on the nitrous made me trip out and have an enlightening experience. There was a thunderstorm outside and i was receiving signs from the tv crying my balls off.. crazy shit.. im going to kick this garbage, i know i am now otherwise id be dead already ... to anyone who is even toying with the thought of doing this poison .. do not fucking do it. It will be the worst mistake of your life.. i swear to you that.

Last dose was the 6th and that was only a quarter of a dud tablet

(Today) Man holy shit I feel so unmotivated. Tired from working but no real motivation afterwards. I feel like 7oh would kinda push me to do stuff I wanted to. Like painting, drawing, and sometimes gaming. My jobs super physical so it helped my body relax and felt like it made me slightly more focused. I woke up the last 2 days at 4am and never fell back asleep (normally redose around then) but had no dose.

I've been taking kratom sometimes throughout the day. About 2g everytime I dose. It definitely didn't help much on the first day but today it helped. Kratom just slightly relieves me from the withdrawal but I still feel like I just got over a flu or something. It also makes me feel really lightheaded sometimes with little to no other effects. Kratom vs 7oh is definitely not even a comparison. Or maybe I'm not dosing right or large enough. No clue honestly.

All in all I experienced slight shakiness, lethargy like yawning/sneezing/watery eyes, a bit achier of a body. Day 2 was a good bit of chills and sweating like crazy in the heat. Not too bad overall. The zero motivation shit has been the worst though.

I've been through worse. Fentanyl withdrawal was genuinely hell. We'll get through this

Questions for everyone in same boat:

What day did some interest in activities come back?

What are some good things your noticing from not taking any 7oh? (Mood boost, sleeping again, etc)

Have you been to any shops that still sell 7oh? Is it out there?

Have you been using MIT extracts or Kratom leaf? What are your doses like?

Not judging but I'm trying to understand how people get up to 100s of MGs per day. Sure, my tolerance has went up but most days I take 10 mgs and most 20 mgs. It sucks about the ban. I'm a bit nervous about the withdrawals. Anyone have any feedback how bad it will be? I've been taking about 5 to 10 mgs a day for about 2 .months. before that I was only taking a couple days a week for about a year.

I quit 7OH by using Quit MD- I was able to make a telehealth apt within hours of signing up. The doctor I was absolutely amazing. He was so encouraging and really truly listened to me. He prescribed me Suboxone and sent it in immediately. I have Medicaid, so my appointment was completely covered as well as my Suboxone prescription. I picked up my subs and that’s all she wrote. literally had subs in my hand within hours of contacting telehealth quit md!! my doctor sees me every week or two just to see how im doing and then we will start tapering. this was the easiest and least expensive way!! I couldn’t afford SR but these subs make it SO easy to quit. I still struggled when I tried to detox with SR awhile back but with subs I feel amazing. tampering is NOT hard either. hope this helps someone 🫶

How has your quit went, did you go cold turkey or taper and how long have you been sober ?