r/DebateVaccines

I was given multiple vaccines, which caused a nerve-related injury, as per the emergency room where I was admitted after I crashed from severe pain. Talking about vaccine injury, despite empirical evidence, is often met with the same disdain as toward antivax attitudes. Yet vaccine injuries go beyond the needle poking in the wrong way or conspiracies and false accusations.

While the needle or injury from it is a likely cause of immediate pain, injury-related pain can arise weeks after the dose is administered due to intravenous blood clotting or an autoimmune response to nerve injury (brachial neuritis, also known as Parsonage-Turner syndrome). In both cases, pain starts slowly and keeps worsening. Gradually, it becomes severe, requiring urgent or emergency care.

In the US, if vaccination causes severe pain, you must go to the emergency room, and they will treat you with blood thinners if it is a case of intravenous blood clotting. Not sure how it might impact those with gastrointestinal ulcers, thrombocytopenia, or hemophilia. But if the vaccination injures a nerve, Emergency care will refer the patient to primary care with a recommendation for neurological care.

If the patient is lucky, they won't have to wait for months to get neurological care. If they are not, the provider would prescribe opioids and steroids to block pain signals and reduce nerve inflammation. In the process, they end up creating other health problems.

The vaccine-induced nerve injury causes debilitating pain (9 out of 10) in my arm, along with nausea, feeling like I have been freshly injected with a vaccine each day with a 10x bigger needle. It will take a year or two to heal without opioid and steroid drugs.

Hopefully, there will be more research on safer vaccine administration and care for injuries. But the discourse must be pushed as much as general debates on vaccination so people can take precautionary measures.

Study found that out of more than 2.5 million children vaccinated with MMR, the rate of diagnosis for autism was less than 1%; less than the 3.2% national average of autistic children that the CDC states on their website.

If MMR vaccination caused autism, wouldn't it be higher than the national average?

Not a rounding error.

Not “a slight bump.”

According to the Children’s Health Defense preprint:

• Recurrent strep: 130% higher odds

• Recurrent ear infections: 100% higher

• Rhinitis: 80% higher

• Recurrent respiratory disease: 60% higher

And it got worse with more shots.

Strep showed a dose-response: up to 240% higher odds in kids who received 6–9 doses versus unvaccinated kids.

Vaccinated girls had 160% higher odds of strep than unvaccinated girls—the strongest sex-split finding in the paper.

Developmental delay wasn’t up in the whole vaccinated group, but jumped 40% in the kids slammed with 10+ doses.

CHD’s Brian Hooker, a co-author: children were “60% more likely to suffer recurrent respiratory disease with at least double the risk of recurrent ear and strep infections.”

Risk rose with the number of vaccines.

This is the part institutions hate saying out loud: the CDC schedule packs at least 18 doses into that first year.

This paper looked at kids who got ANY of that versus kids who got NONE.

This comparison almost never gets funded.

Recurrent strep means antibiotics on repeat.

Ear infections mean tubes, specialists, more drugs.

Recurrent respiratory disease means a childhood spent sick.

The authors argue that pattern looks like immune disruption, not “just coincidence.”

6,239 records.

Eight practices.

The largest unvaccinated group they’ve studied this way.

Parents were told the schedule was settled.

This paper says the sickest-looking group on paper was the vaccinated one—and the more doses, the worse some of the signals got.

Read it, share it, and ask why this kind of comparison is still treated like contraband.

My son is almost 16 months and we delayed his 12 month vaccine (mmr) and his 15 month vaccine (varicella). We are located in Ontario btw.

He had gotten everything up until 6 months.

He has been developing great so far, hitting all milestones etc. never had any reaction to previous vaccines either.

We are travelling soon so I can’t help but think if I should get the mmr vaccine now. His doctor also wants to give hep a and b before we travel as well.

Please let me know if you’ve given your kids these vaccines and if they were okay, any reactions, etc.

I have heard from people that gave the mmr vaccine and their kids started to decline and went non verbal. I also know that autism is diagnosed around the same time as mmr is given.

Just want to hear thoughts

Hi, I am curious to know about peoples experiences. I have most of vaccines and I am now in my 30s. My child has all their vaccines up to age 12/13(no autism but ADHD, bad hand writing). A part of me after finding out about all their heavy metals and other ingredients in the vaccines makes me sick and I don’t want to give my child anymore vaccines. A part of me feels guilty that I gave them these vaccines. I can’t decide if I made the right choose of vaccinating them. I was young and unaware and just did whatever the doctor told me. What is your experience and thoughts on this?

This is truth!!