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[32 Thoughts] Elliotte's thoughts on Philadelphia and Anaheim

Final podcast of the season. Elliotte ran through every team individually.

Philadelphia

  • Elliotte couldn’t confirm Friday’s reports about Giroux to Philadelphia. Edmonton and Toronto were in there (Toronto may have been the most money). Another team in the mix thinks Giroux wants to go to Philadelphia but is waiting to see if another team can change his mind

  • The #1 reason the Flyers signed the offer sheet was because they wanted Carlsson. The Gauthier subplot is an added bonus

  • Philly was like “We need a star. We need a difference maker”

  • Montreal realized how far away they are this year after losing to Carolina. Well Philly got swept by Carolina a round earlier, so imagine how Philly felt

  • They aren’t drafting high enough to get that player

  • If Kaprizov hit the market this year, Philly was going to drop bags of cash on Kaprizov’s house. And Minnesota knew that

  • This had been something brewing. The Flyers’ other contracts are manageable

  • Briere had a lot of his business lined up and now he’ll know he’ll be a target

  • Carolina has made sure they’re not vulnerable after the Kotkaniemi offer sheet and threatening offer sheets of Evan Bouchard and K’Andre Miller. Philly will have to do the same thing

  • Elliotte thinks Philly want back on forth on if they’d really get that player. And Elliotte is a little surprised they didn’t go even higher with money, but they obviously knew what Anaheim was willing to do ($12.5ish). The Flyers beat that by a third

  • He thinks deep down the Flyers expect the Ducks to match

  • Briere is really good at misdirection

  • If they don’t get Carlsson, what else do they consider?

  • This is the way the Ed Snider created the Flyers

  • Noel Acciari screams “Philadelphia Flyer”

Anaheim

  • Pat Verbeek and the Ducks recognized a threat, but they didn’t recognize how big it was

  • The Ducks were saying they’d match any offer sheet, but Elliotte doesn’t think they thought it would go to $18m

  • The Ducks and Carlsson’s representatives met Friday morning. The Ducks’ offer was around $12.5m, the counter was in the $15m area

  • The Flyers knew they had to blow the Ducks out was the water. And Verbeek did not see that coming

  • Every team is looking at this and saying “We can’t allow this to happen to us”

  • Elliotte thinks Anaheim has to match the offer sheet. They don’t have a choice

  • Elliotte is sure Verbeek is looking around with what he could do with the 4 1st round picks, but he'd have to show how it makes sense to give up on Carlsson

  • Carlsson is Verbeek’s guy, the linchpin to his rebuild

  • Anaheim kept their roster a little bare bones to protect from this, yet they still walked into a bad spot

  • Elliotte assumes it was Carolina considering an offer sheet for Mintyukov, but Anaheim had made the commitment to sign him

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u/upcan845 — 3 hours ago
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Another factor to the Anaheim situation

I knew they were in a bad spot, but good lord did Verbeek fuck up worse than I could have imagined here. Big dick Danny capitalized at the perfect time, bravo.

Minty signed for 7.2. Let’s say they match Carlsson and extend Gauthier, putting them over the cap to sort out the important players now, and deal with clearing space before the season starts. Cutter ain’t taking 9. 12 would be generous to Verbeek if only for a year so he can get to RFA.

They’ll just trade some pieces over the summer like Killorn/Vatrano etc. no problem.

Except now they’re over the cap, and every team knows just how desperate they are to get rid of these other contracts. They will be cleaned out in these trades with 0 leverage whatsoever. It’s probably being used against Verbeek with these secondary players since Leo signed the offer sheet.

Their roster has already been dismantled with nothing to show for it, and they still need to sell everything they can to just hold on to a piece of what they were building.

I can’t believe Verbeek could possibly put an org in such a vulnerable position to be relentlessly buttfucked by the entire league like this.

Sending cutter to Anaheim was no gift.

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u/tictacballsack — 6 hours ago
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I paid someone on r/photoshoprequest to make this

Danny B is the Duck Hunter

u/sukmyfartbox — 7 hours ago
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[Seravalli] Sources say Anaheim Ducks have been notified that an offer sheet is pending with defenseman Pavel Mintyukov.

u/alarm41 — 17 hours ago
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[David Pagnotta] With Mintyukov signing for around $7.4M AAV, if the Ducks match the Carlsson $18M AAV offer sheet, that gives Anaheim less than $10M in cap space, which won't be enough for Gauthier... if all 3 stay, Ducks have moves to make.

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u/Leading_Dentist_5563 — 17 hours ago
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Trevor Zegras liked a post about the offer sheet.

Obviously this doesn’t mean much but pretty nice confirmation that he is at least on board with it.

u/throwaway092741345 — 13 hours ago
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The Anaheim Ducks Instagram account has been forced to limit comments on the post announcing Mintyukov's extension

u/CCF_Fan44 — 12 hours ago
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[Friedman] Hearing Pavel Mintyukov and the Anaheim Ducks are getting an extension done. It will be in the Brandt Clarke range, which is 5 x $7.4M

u/lqloveclub — 17 hours ago
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Drysdale and Zegras both file for arbitration

This means both want more money than they are being offered & think the arbitrator will rule in favor of them right ? Or am I way off lol.

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u/Flyers7914 — 17 hours ago
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Hey Leo, would you rather

play with a rat and a needle weenie GM who wants to play hardball with his franchise center, or your two best friends and big D Briere?

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u/Clean_Candidate3400 — 15 hours ago
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[Friedman] Per @nhlpa, players who elected salary arbitration:

u/lqloveclub — 16 hours ago
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What if Anaheim signs and trades

Just thinking about all possibilities

Was wondering if they would sign him and trade so they at least get known talent back

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u/Ossi7593 — 13 hours ago
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Is it just me?

Of course Im not the only one but its just me thinking on what going on.

I have a feeling M.M number 39 gonna have a fantastic season.
I think he Martone and IF Carlsson comes gonna be monsters this season.
Long time Flyerfan and now I want some crazy hockey here

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u/Icy-Ad1320 — 20 hours ago
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Free Talk Sunday: Noel Acciari Edition

Soooo, pretty big week for the Flyers. The Flyers landed coveted free agent Noel Acciari to a 2 year deal with an AAV of 2.8, adding a right handed faceoff man to the 4th line. He is set to be a replacement Hathaway, although we could see him spending some time at Center taking over Glendening's role and having Couturier play on the left wing. Danny doing more solid work finding guys who fill needs and fit into Tocchet's systems well.

Oh, we also offer sheeted Leo Carlsson to the biggest cap hit in the history of the league and Giroux might be coming home.

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u/DH28Hockey — 17 hours ago
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New Fan From Across The Pond

Hi, I've been following the NHL from the UK for the past couple of years and have chose the Flyers as my team to follow. Which is why I'm here. What do I need to know, any decent podcasts or documentaries to listen to? I've watched the HBO Broad Street Bullies doc and have a couple of books on the way. I basically want to build my knowledge and love for the team and need your help! Thanks.

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u/BroadStBrit — 20 hours ago
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Let’s not forget what Danny B got done

I’m still buzzing about the pick and will not be a productive human for the next 5 days. That said, let’s not forget the fking amazing signing of our boy foerster. what a term sheet with imo a potential top 10 player (offense/defense) in the league. All I want to say is Danny B is legit 🧑‍🍳

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u/ask0009 — 23 hours ago
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Brière has gotten team friendly contracts for years to facilitate this move for Carlsson. Targeting the good AAV over term. Which contract was the best? TK-8.75, 8y. Tippet-6.2, 8y. Poehling-3.8, 2y. Cates-4, 4y. York-5.1, 5y. Dvorak-5.1, 5y. Vladar-5.5, 5y. Foerster-7.1, 8y. Drysdale-?6.2, 4y(?)

Excellent work DB.

u/scratchydaitchy — 24 hours ago