r/HelldiversUnfiltered

TL:DR for peeps, people would use Thermites less if there were other reliable options to destroy Bot/Squid Spawners and deal with heavies at a bit of range that didn't require your back slot (RR is amazing but Warp Pack is my beloved).

I can't even begin to say just how many posts I see complaining about Thermite nades I've seen in the few months I've been playing the game, and I just don't get it.

You'd think these do your taxes while clearing entire Bot Drops and every heavy in the area with how some people complain about them, to the point I wonder if they've used them any time recently.

Thermites are incredibly good, they're easily my most used nade for Squids and Bots as they're just genuinely reliable (tho Dynamite has been starting to creep into my Bot loadouts). They can destroy spawners without me needing to much spend time there, and at least for bots, they're really good as a "This heavy needs to die" option.

They don't do everything tho. They're not really an add clear nade, they take a lil moment to actually kill whatever they stick to, and some enemies (like many bugs and their holes) are kinda just a pain to throw these at (I really have been enjoying Dynamite here).

Thing is when people complain about people only ever bringing Thermites, I feel like they are forgetting that there's not really many alternative to what Thermites do.

In the secondary weapon slot, while there's the Nade Pistol for bug holes, and a couple weapons like the Crisper for anti-tank, barring the Ultimatum (which I really hate using), there's no option I know of that can close Bot/Squid spawners.

Primaries have a similar issue, there's just nothing that's actually efficient at dealing with heavies/Spawners like Thermites are.

That leaves you with your Stratagems, which often I want to use in tandem with my Thermites. I enjoy using the Warp Pack, so my options are already substantially more limited, cuz rip non-pack using anti-Spawner options are kinda limited. On the Bot front, I really enjoy the Hammer. The Hammer deals with regular Spawners and heavies really well, but a Factory Strider/Heavy Spawner appears? Really Thermites are the most effective option I've found.

Then against the Squids, absolutely nothing pops those Spawners like Thermites, as nothing else is able to without spending 60 secs beaming down the shield. Coupled with the fact the Big Ass Laser and other Med Pen options are so strong against this entire faction, why would I possibly consider any other nade.

If there were actually realistic alternatives for these anti Tank/Spawner options, people would use Thermites far far less, and the complainers really should remember that.

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I love this gun with all my heart but it doesn't stop me from seeing flaws with said favorite weapon, the Tenderizer; (alongside many light pen weapons & most of all, nearly all the SMGs.)

Suffer a lot from ammo starvation, the Tenderizer is ammo starved like crazy, it has 35 mag cap, and 7 spare mags.

^(just for clarification before I get hit with "get better" or the most infamous saying in this community "skill issue".)

I do not mag dump every enemy I see on my screen with this weapon, I shoot just the right amount of bullets for whatever enemy I'm faced with, Devastators, Hunters, Warriors. (taking advantage of the breakpoints/weakspots of said enemies.)

I usually end up with ~80% accuracy sometimes more, give or take on missions (tbf some accuracy stats can be 'rigged' through some stratagems usage or etc but just know that I do not miss my shots most of the time.)

I also don't bother with super long range fights with it unless I can get a clear shot at a weakpoint or if it's a super weak enemy, so that saves me up ammo count by optimizatizing my "trigger discipline"

AND STILL, despite all the ammo conservation I'm able to do, the gun feels like it's running out of ammo in a very very quick fighting window.

the Tenderizer should have received magazines customization.

7 spare mags with 35 bullets cap is already sorta meh as a starter, so not having the possibility to put an extended mag or drum mag is kinda hurting the gun, not to the point of no return, but still it would have been nice. (but hey according to Pilestedt weapon customization extension is a low priority..)

I'll preshot some "counter arguments" to my viewing of the Tenderizer in its current state;

"It has less mag cap & spare ammo because of high damage" - A while ago, that argument sorta held up because some time ago, the Tenderizer had 95 flat damage & 22 durable damage while for example the default Liberator had... 60~70 flat damage & 15 durable damage during that time period? Now the Tenderizer has 105 flat damage & 30 durable damage while the default Lib has 90 flat damage & 22 durable damage, the difference is not that significant anymore.

"It's more accurate than most Assault Rifles" - It's.. not that big of a deal since now that we have customization, a lot of rifles can be as accurate as the Tenderizer is. (and have mag options in the process)

By the way, the "high damage" or "accuracy" of this weapon doesn't excuse the fact that the gun takes forever to reload the fricking thing. the reload speed is 3.3 seconds...

Oh and before someone potentially says "Another guy criticizing and making no suggestion to make things better"

It's very simple, reduce the atrocious reload speed because it has no reason to be this way. give it some magazine options (not happening anytime soon but at least it's said.), give it a few more spare mags to compensate for the smaller default mag size compared to other ARs, 9 - 10 spare mags total? after all, it had that amount of spare mags before, it's nothing outrageous I'd say. OR if the devs wanna keep this "vision" of the gun being a high damage weapon compared to other ARs that sacrifices a bit of ammo, then actually make it do more damage, buff the flat & durable damage again so that it has a real step up from the Default Lib... and then maybe we can keep the 7 spare mags because at least every bullet will feel strong.

I never thought I’d be making a post like this.
A few days ago, I lost my best friend, Nicholas Johnson.
His Xbox gamertag was **OVOKRAKEN**.
For years, Helldivers was more than just a game to us. It was where we escaped after long days, laughed until we couldn’t breathe, accidentally wiped each other out with stratagems, and made memories that I’ll carry with me for the rest of my life. Some of my favorite moments with him happened while fighting for Super Earth.
Losing him has left a hole in my life that I don’t know how to fill.
I know this is an incredibly unlikely request, and I completely understand if it’s something that can never happen. But I wanted to ask this community, and maybe the developers if this somehow reaches them:
Would it ever be possible to honor Nicholas with a small memorial in Helldivers? Even something as simple as his gamertag, **OVOKRAKEN**, on a memorial wall, a plaque, a ship roster, a fallen Helldiver, or another subtle tribute somewhere in the game.
I know there are probably countless reasons why requests like this can’t always be granted, and I truly understand that. I just couldn’t live with myself if I never asked.
I’ve already reached out to Arrowhead directly because I wanted to try every possible avenue.
Whether anything comes of this or not, I want to thank Arrowhead for creating a game that brought two best friends together for so many unforgettable nights. Those memories are something no one can ever take away from me.
If you’ve ever lost someone you used to game with, you know that eventually you log in one day and realize they’re never coming online again. That’s a feeling I wouldn’t wish on anyone.
Thank you for taking the time to read this. If this post reaches the developers, thank you for considering my request. And if you’re just another Helldiver reading this, thank you for helping keep this community as incredible as it is.
For Nicholas.
For OVOKRAKEN.
For Super Earth.

It was annihilated

Did that shi just get nuked after 3 days? 😭

Edit: what were they supposed to show that this got sniped right before??

This might just be me, but ever since the MO on TCS (defending 5 planets from the bugs), i have been crashing almost every other fucking mission. i play with 1-2 friends and they also crash at the exact same time as me. it happens at such random times too. i could be fighting a swarm of over 150 bugs, explode them with an orbital napalm, and have no fps drop, but when i drive over to my teammate who needs a stim and accidentally hit him with a car with no bugs in sight, my game freezes for a second or two and just dies. its really starting to piss me off because i cant even play the game that i have spent over 350 hours on and over 100 god damn dollars

Just asking cause the sever died before I could even join it, so I'm not up to date with the leaks

(someone please tell me they leaked something new of the cultists, I'm going insane)