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u/kasubot — 8 days ago
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Geography Check: Can a fictional North Atlantic island exist without breaking real-world history and oceanography?

I’m working on an alternate history / speculative fiction project where I’ve added one big island to the North Atlantic. My one hard rule is that the real world stays exactly as it is. No rewritten Cold War, no frozen Europe, no world-ending ocean crisis. The island matters a lot inside the story, but to the rest of the world it’s just there, known about and mostly ignored.

The island

  • It’s about the size of Iceland, roughly 100,000 km², and volcanic.
  • It sits at 57 to 59°N, 30 to 35°W in the Irminger Basin, right on top of the Reykjanes Ridge (the northern arm of the Mid-Atlantic Ridge).
  • It’s in the middle of the North Atlantic’s storm nursery, so it’s almost always under fog and bad weather. For centuries it only existed on old charts as a rumour, a phantom island. Today most people live in sheltered fjords on the southeast coast, so from outside it just looks like a cold, unfriendly rock. People know it exists. They just never think about it.

Why it didn’t change history

  • It was settled in the late 800s by Christian refugees running from Viking raids in Britain. They already had a Christian court and could read and write, so when the Atlantic routes opened in the 1490s, Europe didn’t treat the island as empty land to take. It treated it like a medieval kingdom preserved in amber and got a bit romantic about it.
  • By the 1600s it had drifted into England’s trade orbit through treaties, not war. Today it’s a very independent, self-governing territory, closely aligned with NATO and sitting near the GIUK Gap.

The crisis

The plot turns on an industrial disaster that destroys the capital, and I want to check whether the physics and geography hold up without breaking my “keep the world the same” rule.

  1. The brush-off. A reckless high-pressure injection campaign at an inland geothermal (EGS) field starts causing small seismic anomalies. Intelligence agencies and mainstream oceanographers wave it away. They compare it to the debunked 2001 La Palma mega-tsunami theory and tell their governments there’s no transatlantic wave risk to the US, because deep water weakens the wave, and Ireland and Britain shield the English Channel from anything coming from the northwest anyway.
  2. What actually happens. The experts are right about the ocean and wrong about the city. Using the 2017 Pohang earthquake in South Korea as the model, the injected fluid slips a hidden fault right under the capital and sets off a very shallow quake, around 4 km deep.
  3. The damage. Because it’s so shallow, the city gets a violent, sharp jolt instead of a long rolling one. The port liquefies, the pressurised district heating lines blow out, and a small section of coast collapses, but only inside the fjord. The capital goes down into the deep water of the basin. The rest of the island is fine, and so is the rest of the world’s ocean.

What I’d love help with

  • Does this hold up geographically and oceanographically? Is the real scientific consensus against the La Palma mega-wave a believable reason for big governments to shrug off a local seismic crisis in the North Atlantic?
  • With the island on the Reykjanes Ridge and near the GIUK Gap, how would Western intelligence actually handle a huge but very local disaster on an allied sovereign island, if it doesn’t touch any transatlantic infrastructure?
  • Does a 9th-century Christian origin plus a 17th-century English orbit work as a “legal passport” to fit a big new island into European history without knocking everything else off course?

Thanks for any thoughts on the geography or the history.

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u/tesslover12 — 8 days ago