r/JeffBuckley

Has anyone here ever compared Ethel Cain to Jeff Buckley ( I don't mean sonically, but in the emotional importance of her "oevre" , I couldn't think of a more crappy way to describe it)

I did once but I think I got away with it until I see one of the God's Country videos I had on repeat (from 2022 to forever and day ) when I watched it in 2023 and in the MV they are traveling in the car and Hayden in the back, suddenly, is reading out loud something about It Jeff Buckley, and the kids are murmuring something about how sad etc.

Sorry for the length of my self indulgence, but I deffo would be interested to know, even if it destroys my thought that I may have planted the seed in her head from my sad YT comment.

As I continue to ponder doing a Jeff-related podcast, I've been delving through the written works about him and wanted to clear up a bit of a boo-boo I noticed regarding Jeff and his audtioning for Mick Jagger (as I know quite a bit about the Stones as well).

It's written in the Dream Brother biography and in Gary Lucas' book that Jeff auditioned to be in Mick's "touring band". That's actually not correct. Mick was not touring in 1991, not even close.

What he was doing was gearing up to record his third solo album which became 1993's Wandering Spirit.

So, Jeff actually auditioned to be a guitarist on the upcoming sessions for Wandering Spirit. Jeff would've auditioned for Mick's musical director for the project, Jimmy Rip. Unclear if Mick was there in attendance when Jeff auditioned.

I have been trying to pin down exactly where and when in 1991 this happened. It would've been in the last week of August or in the first half of September in Los Angeles.

The Chronicle section of the wonderful Rolling Stones site timeisonourside has Mick in Los Angeles in August doing preproduction on the album and then going to London in the middle of September to do some man about town stuff.

Jeff was in New York to record the demos of Mojo Pin and Grace with Gary Lucas on August 17 and then returned to Los Angeles. Gary goes to Europe for a week right after the session and has a phone conversion with Jeff sometime after returning where Jeff informs him about the audition, stating to a very concerned Gary, "When you get the call from Mick, well... you've just got to go."

Jeff's audition would've been after this phone call, which was sometime after August 25, and before Mick was documented as being in London on September 18 for an event at The Spencer House.

Jeff obviously didn't get the gig with Jagger Jimmy Rip plays guitar on the album as does session guitarist Frank Simes and Brendan O'Brien (best known as Pearl Jam's producer). As a side note, Jimmy Rip also played with Tom Verlaine at times. So another connection to Jeff.

Wonder if things would've turned out differently had this happened and Jeff got to play with Mick.

I've been trying to find other music like Grace, but its so frustrating because I don't think many people actually get what makes it so unique. Recommendations are always either whispery acoustic guitar or just rock, they never have the guitar riffs, emotion, and the way jeff uses his voice as an instrument.

I've already been recommend radiohead, tamino, mazzy star, ours and elliot page, and but these all miss the mark I think.

Would love to hear any recommendations 🙏

This Scorpio ass song 🦂 !! I feel like this song and disc two of sketches in general gets some flack and I was bewildered the first time I heard it yes but then I remembered Joan said somewhere that Jeff was in his feminine energy and she felt like she was the dominant one so him singing “stick the thick of my pussy” was just so ahead of his time really and I always thought him and Joan lowkey give lesbians in the sweetest way possible lol 🫶

At first I didn’t fully understand why people were so broken up about Jeff being gone. And, well…now I get it. Hope he’s resting easy.

Can anyone fill me in on the disc 2 of this album?
songs like Gunshot Glitter, Your Flesh is So Nice and Demon John are so captivating to me because of their haunting production and sound. Most of the songs on disc 2 sound very unpolished and obviously they are only demos but they sound so drastic and contrary and frankly quite disturbing compared to the rest of the album. Was he recording the instrumentals all on his own without the band in Memphis? Do we have any idea how his mental health was at the time of writing and recording these tracks? Even on Thousand Fold, while being a more coherent track still sounds very rough. I don't know if that had to do with his declining mental state at the time or if it literally was just unfinished. Murder Suicide Meteor Slave
has a very distorted instrumental that sounds too hectic to be excused as a throwaway demo. It's all very intriguing yet saddening to me because I think these rougher songs on disc 2 kind of show his mental decline throughout the production of MSTD.

Nothing I said was meant to be harmful or intrusive, I have always been curious if we as fans have any answers as to why these demos sound the way they do and if it has anything to do with how Jeff felt during that time. I love the songs on mstd they carry such interesting and cool ideas from one of my favorite artists ever!

I am trying to find a proper image to put on his article but my search has failed. If anyone can help that would be great. The image needs to be non-copyrighted or open-licensed so images randomly taken from google do not work.

I’m a woman so I definitely can’t sing as low as Jeff. Maybe it’s that it’s kind of a monotone song? I think his guitar and chord changes provide a lot of the interest and when I’m singing it without accompaniment it feels very different. He just has such range and is able to do all these vocal flourishes that can be a little hard to imitate.

Has anyone seen/read any interviews or quotes about how poverty affected Jeff’s life? He seems like he was very well-read and an auto-didact despite his circumstances, so I’m curious how his music and intellectual pursuits fit into a life where he didn’t have a whole lot of financial stability. It seems like he spent pretty much all his free time either playing music or reading.