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12×3 vs 3×12 for hypertrophy, am I onto something or am I completely wrong?

I was arguing with ChatGPT about whether 12×3 (12 sets of 3 reps) could be better for muscle growth than 3×12.

My reasoning:
Both are 36 total reps.
With 12×3, I can use much heavier weight.
Since each set is only 3 reps, the individual reps should be higher quality because I’m less fatigued within the set.
If I take every set to failure, 12×3 gives me 12 failure sets, whereas 3×12 only gives me 3.
More hard/quality reps + heavier weight + more sets taken to failure = potentially more hypertrophy.

ChatGPT initially said 3×12 was obviously better for size.
Then I clarified that I’m talking about 12×3 with every set taken to actual failure, not just stopping at 3 reps with 2–3 reps in reserve.
Now ChatGPT admits 12×3 could produce more hypertrophy, but says it can’t honestly claim that it will because more work doesn’t necessarily mean proportionally more growth, and muscle damage isn’t itself the goal.

So who’s actually right here?

Assume:
Same exercise
Same 36 total reps
12×3 = genuinely 3 reps to failure every set
3×12 = genuinely 12 reps to failure every set
Ignore time efficiency and convenience completely
Which protocol would you expect to produce more muscle growth, and why?
I’m genuinely curious whether my logic is sound or if I’m missing something fundamental about hypertrophy.

Now off course 12x3 is a little bit insane i’m aware of that but what if…

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u/minecraft1dude — 21 hours ago

Should I be training every set to failure I’m a beginner at the gym

My current strategy when I’m at the gym is that I pick a weight where 8 reps is max and once i hit 12 in all sets I up the weight. But my question is as a beginner should I be taking all those sets to failure where I can’t do another rep with good form

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u/DotComplex8150 — 14 hours ago
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Help with me 3 day full body routine

Goals are hyper trophy, strength, and lowering BF%, focusing on compound lifts. Is this overboard? I don’t mind spending 90 minutes at the gym. I’ve been going to the gym for a couple years and want to start locking in and taking it seriously. Any tips are greatly appreciated, let me know what you would change. Aiming for a MWF setup. Will be doing some ab work and cardio after each workout. My idea was do 2 exercises per muscle group per workout. Thanks everyone 🫡

Day 1

  1. Squats 5x3-6
  2. Bench 5x3-6
  3. T Bar Row 3x8-12
  4. DB Overhead Press 3x8-12
  5. Calf raises 3x8-12
  6. Overhead Tricep Extension 3x8-12
  7. Pull ups 3 sets till failure
  8. Lat raise machine 3x8-12

Day 2

  1. Deadlift 5x3-6
  2. Overhead press 5x6-8
  3. Leg Extension 3x8-12
  4. Incline Dumbbell press 3x8-12
  5. Lat Pulldowns3x8-12
  6. Shoulder press machine 3x8-12
  7. Hip thrust 3x8-12
  8. Cable fly 3x8-12
  9. Walking lunges 3 sets 10 steps per foot

Day 3

  1. Bench 5x5
  2. Hack squat 3x8-12
  3. Chest supported row machine 3x8-12
  4. DB overhead press 3x8-12
  5. Leg Curls 3x8-12
  6. Preacher curls 3x8-12
  7. Dips 3x8-12, last set till failure
  8. Pull ups, 3 sets till failure
  9. Lat raise machine 3x8-12
  10. Calf raises 3x8-12
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u/ScarletFire3 — 1 day ago

Bulking tips

Does anyone have any suggestions for how to add calories to meals without making them massive meals? I don’t have the biggest appetite so I’m aiming to do 4 smaller meals rather than 3 big ones, and every “bulking recipe” I see on instagram is an absurd amount of food to account for the extra calories. Any tips appreciated :)

Also I can’t eat dairy so adding cheese is out of the question 😔

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One bicep is way stronger than the other bicep when I was training biceps for the first time

When I was doing bicep exercises for the first time in the gym today I picked up the 6kg dumbbell and I did about 4 reps on both arms and my left will had about 4 reps left and right arm literally couldn’t do any more at all . How do I fix this or will it go away naturally as i feel embarrassed when I was doing them cus my right was shaking while my left was fine . How do i fix this ?

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u/DotComplex8150 — 1 day ago

Best app for min-max phase 1

Just downloaded the MinMax program. This will be my first time training on my own (without a coach or small group).

What app is best for tracking these workouts? I don’t fancy paying a Microfactor Workouts sub 😬

Thanks

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u/ciller88 — 2 days ago

Brachioradialis/ Brachialis Preacher Hammer curls.

Jeff told us in one video that the best forearm exercise for the Brachioradialis is the Preacher Hammer curl. In another video he also called it the greatest Brachialis exercise. Now I’m really confused. Wouldn’t the Brachioradialis be targeted more if I did Reverse preacher curls?
Jeff said doing it on a preacher shifts tension to the forearm, but why would it be the best Brachialis movement also then? Any thoughts?

Edit: confused Brachialis and Brachioradialis at the reverse curl part

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u/No_Structure6804 — 2 days ago

Bulk or maingain?

I feel like I’m always in a cycle of wanting to bulk up then wanting to get lean. Realistically I don’t have enough muscle yet to cut, but unsure whether I should bulk, since I’m not convinced I could stick to a cut afterwards.

Mainly looking for anecdotal experience rather than statistics, what’s worked best for everyone?

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u/Clean-Swordfish-4714 — 3 days ago

Which non-visual signal do you trust most during a slow gaining phase?

I’ve been looking at the usual ways people try to separate real progress from day-to-day noise during a slow gaining phase. Bodyweight averages, repeat measurements, performance at a similar RPE or RIR, recovery, and clothing fit can all tell slightly different stories. Before visible hypertrophy is obvious, what tends to be the most useful signal in your own training?

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u/ritkeepFitness — 3 days ago
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Need workout recommendations

So I've been running the coolcicada ppl program for about 4 months. I've been looking around for a new workout to switch things up. I've considered Jeff Nippard's Bodybuilding Transformation System, or his ultimate ppl, as well as GZCL General Gainz, or the RP Hypertrophy 4.1 workout i found on liftosaur. The more science based workouts seem to only do like 2 sets of 2 exercises per body part and going from doing the 5 sets of 5 then 3 sets of 8 to 12 for the bigger lifts i wonder if I'll still make gains losing some volume.

Also I cut from 240 and out of the gym for 2 years down to 180 at 6ft tall. Ive bulked back up to about 188 without gaining any new body fat. But im planning to ramp up my bulk soon. Not sure if that info is helpful

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u/glassschuh — 3 days ago
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Just finished my cut and can finally see my physique.

M24 6’4 79kg

What do I need to work on? What are my weaknesses?

u/Alarmed_Culture_7424 — 7 days ago
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Min-Max Phase 2 looks dumb

Here’s part of the routine I ran today, I’m on the 4-day split. Sets of 10 reps followed by 20, and others starting at 20 and finishing at 10. I hope he puts out an explanation video, because I feel dumb doing these exercises.

u/Temporary-Yellow8253 — 6 days ago

1 year bulk results +14 kgs

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Everything I did

BULKING, TRAINING, RECOVERY & MINDSET

NUTRITION

You need to get bigger. You are lean enough to start a proper bulk.

- Aim for a 250–500 calorie surplus.

- 1.6–2.2 g of protein per kg of body weight is enough to support muscle growth.

- Eat carbs before and after your workouts to fuel your training and support recovery.

- Don't be afraid of fats. They are important for hormones and overall health. Use them wisely to increase your calories without adding too much food volume.

- Eat plenty of vegetables and fruit for vitamins, minerals, and fiber.

- Drink around 3–4 liters of water per day, depending on your size, activity level, and climate.

- Have a protein source every 3–4 hours.

- Aim for 3–5 meals per day, with protein in each meal.

- Before bed, have a protein source containing casein, such as Greek yogurt, cottage cheese, or another slow-digesting protein source.

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TRAINING

- Train 3–5 times per week.

- Focus mainly on compound exercises and use isolation exercises to complement them.

- Choose a split that you enjoy and can follow consistently.

- Train close to failure. An RIR of 0–2 is a good intensity range for most working sets.

- Around 8–15 hard sets per muscle group per week can be enough if you are progressing.

- Focus on progressive overload. It's simple.

For example, if your target rep range is 6–8 reps:

- Week 1: 6 reps

- Week 2: 7 reps

- Week 3: 8 reps

- Then increase the weight and start again.

- Week 4: 6 reps with the heavier weight.

FREQUENCY

Try to train each muscle group twice per week and divide your weekly volume between those sessions.

For example, if you do 12 sets for chest per week:

- Monday: 6 sets

- Thursday/Friday: 6 sets

That's 12 sets per week.

Don't do all 12 sets in one session if you can distribute the volume more effectively.

EXERCISE SELECTION

Choose exercises that are effective but that you also enjoy doing. The most important thing is that you can perform them consistently and get stronger at them over time.

In most exercises, around 2 minutes of rest between sets is a good starting point. Some heavy compound exercises may require more.

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PLATEAUS

At some point, you may stop progressing on certain exercises. This is called a plateau.

A plateau happens when your progress stalls because your body has adapted to your current training stimulus.

If this happens, don't panic. You can try:

- Changing your rep range

- Increasing the weight gradually

- Changing an exercise

- Improving your nutrition

- Getting more sleep and recovery

- Taking a deload week if necessary

You don't need to constantly "shock" your muscles. Focus on making sensible changes when progress genuinely stalls.

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RECOVERY

Recovery is just as important as training.

- Get 7–9 hours of sleep every night.

- Have at least 2 rest days per week, depending on your training schedule and recovery.

- Give your muscles enough time to recover before training them hard again.

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SUPPLEMENTS

Most supplements are not worth spending a lot of money on.

Supplements come second. What really matters is everything mentioned above: nutrition, training, recovery, sleep, and consistency.

If all of those are already on point, a few supplements may be useful:

- Creatine monohydrate: One of the most well-researched supplements for improving strength and supporting muscle growth.

- Omega-3: Useful if your diet is low in fatty fish and can help support overall health.

- Vitamin D3: Useful if your vitamin D intake or blood levels are low.

- Magnesium: Can be useful if your dietary intake is insufficient.

Even if you don't take any supplements, you can still make excellent progress.

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LIFESTYLE

- Aim for around 6,000–12,000 steps per day.

- Stay active outside the gym.

- Keep your daily activity relatively consistent so you can better track your progress.

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TRAINING TECHNIQUE

- Control the negative/eccentric portion of your reps for around 2–3 seconds when appropriate.

- Use straps for back exercises when your grip is limiting your ability to train your back properly.

- Focus on mechanical tension and good technique.

- Use challenging weights that allow you to maintain proper form.

- Push your hard sets close to failure.

The final few reps of a hard set are especially challenging and provide a strong training stimulus, so don't be afraid to push yourself.

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MINDSET

There will be days when you look in the mirror and feel like you haven't changed at all.

There will be days when you feel frustrated, when you think you're not growing fast enough, or when you don't like what you see.

That's completely normal.

Your job is to stay consistent.

Focus on your training, nutrition, recovery, sleep, and lifestyle for months and years, not just a few weeks.

Month after month, you will start noticing changes. You'll become stronger, build more muscle, and look different.

Don't compare your progress to other people. Everyone starts from a different place and progresses at a different rate.

Stay consistent. Trust the process. Keep getting stronger.

u/vasilis_kafaltzis — 6 days ago
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Is it normal to lose strength on a cut even if I am a beginner.

I am have been training for 8 months and I am on a cut.

My body fat percentage is high so is it normal for me to get 1 rep less sometimes or get the same reps.

I think my maintenance is 2100 kcal and I am eating around 1900 kcal. My maintenance can be 2400 kcal but I am not sure because on 2400 kcal I was not losing weight at all.

One more thing should I cut aggressively or slowly because I have a lot of fat to lose. My main goal is to look aesthetic and build muscle not just lose weight.

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u/DrawerExotic7343 — 5 days ago

Program Recommendations

I’m starting a new job and I can only train Thursday-Sunday. Can I run an ULUL on consecutive days without rest without running a risk of overtraining or injury?

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u/Prestigious-Soup5020 — 4 days ago

Help with my physique I think I’m skinny fat and idk whether to cut bulk or eat maintenance . 60.5kg and 5 10 , male

I have started the gym recently and I want to look more aesthetically pleasing and leaner . I look in the mirror and I look soft I have can barely see abs just the bottom 2 and I just look overall soft . My question is whether I should cut bulk or eat maintenance . I have asked ai and uploaded pictures and it says to eat at a slight surplus aka lean bulk and it says that on multiple ai . But at the same time people on youtube and stuff are saying eat maintenance to recomp however I don’t see the point because I’m already pretty much underweight . Can someone tell me what I should do . I can dm my physique

u/DotComplex8150 — 7 days ago

Fuck am I doing wrong?

I've been in a plateau for god knows how long. I can gain weight, I can gain strength. But I can't gain muscle!!! Last year was pretty bad for me. Didn’t know much about progressive overload, sleep & diet were awful. This year I got back on track. Yet my arms are stuck in the same size. I can lift more,I can take my sets to failure. But I can't gain any size?? Only gain I can notice is in the back. And that's it. I joined the the gym to stay away from depression. But this thing, this continuously stuck thing is making me more frustrated

Can anyone help?

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u/stranger_showrav — 6 days ago
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Transferring from PPL to UL, is this enough excersises?

Everything done with roughly 7-10 reps, 3-4 sets

6’2 98kg male 25

Just looking for general fitness and hypertrophy/strength gain

Lower 1
Barbell Squat - 70kg
RDL - 60kg
Hamstring curls 55kg
Calf raises 40kg
Ab workout - leg raises and sit ups

Upper 1
Flat bench - 70kg
Overhead press - 30kg
Pull ups - 6 bodyweight reps
Seated row - 45 kg
Incline curls - 15kg each hand
Tricep rope pushdown - 40kg

Lower 2
Leg press - 150kg
Leg extension - 50kg
Hamstring curl - 55kg
Calf raises - 40kg
An workout - 40kg

Upper 2
Incline bench - 60kg
Lateral raises - 12kg each hand
Pull ups - 98kg body weight
Back extensions - 10kg plate
Hammer curls - 15kg each hand
Tricep straight bar - 45kg

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u/Ok_Isopod2623 — 7 days ago