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Question to men related to Terrable Mother

For those out there that had to deal with terrible mother and therefor Terrible Mother Archetype. Who have been strongly wounded since youth did you find a solution for this?

I grew up in terrible circumstances or conditions especially during my developmental years talking about 1-6 years. This has wounded me in such strong ways that till the day of today in my 30s I still reenact that constelated enviroment.

My mother found a second man after she divorced my father. There was a lot of violence. I do not know my father. After that my mother brought me into a house of this second man a pathetic human being. My mother she is wounded deeply through maternal wound running on the mother side lineage.

So inside my head I have this strong internalized oppressive voice that litterly fucking destroys me from the inside. The way my psyche deals with it it summons this Negative Senex that just silences her completely. However this is where the problem lies it seems like when I do this its almost like I silence my anima. My life becomes hot and dry polarizing strongly into Logos. This is also enhanced by the fact that the mother wound has been passed onto me.

Yesterday I had a massive realization that inside my psyche there is litterly a voice that talks down to me

and unless I silence it I am unable to function and quite franky am constantly opressed by it. Through life I discovered that expression of this is seen in BDSM. The suppression mechanism of the psyche is almost like bondage or projection of latex onto a person reflecting this feeling of shutting a complex up or confining it inside or behind a veil void.

So the situation is this. I feel like a part of me is suppressing an internalized oppressive voice causing this dynamic as if Negative Sanex is suppressing my Anima. I cant fucking wrap my head around this as to how to dissolve or help this situation.. this shit has controlled my life for far to long. I am curious if anyone can relate to this or something similar. Would appreciate your answers.

Thank you for reading.

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u/YourGenuineFriend — 8 hours ago
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Synchronicity

Where is sat down at the cafe and looked out the reflection of the light and a cross on the building opposite aligned to give the serpent and cross motifs seen in most spiritual systems e.g. the snake on the cross, Kundalini and the caduceus.

Felt like a synchronicity.

u/Strict_Ad3722 — 11 hours ago
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Jung Whatsapp Group

Hi there,

I am looking to start a WhatsApp Group principally based around Jung's ideas, but if possible incorporating Buddhism and Christianity too.

The idea isn’t to create anything overly structured or formal, but rather a space—probably on Whatsapp—where people can drop in and out of conversation when they have the time and energy, while still maintaining a consistent thread of depth and honesty.

A few things that feel important for this to work:

  • An ability (or at least willingness) to move beyond surface-level persona early on
  • Comfort sitting with opposing ideas without needing to collapse into one side
  • Genuine interest in Jung, Buddhism, Christianity, or related perspectives—but grounded in personal experience, not just theory
  • Openness to vulnerability, without turning the space into venting or seeking to be “fixed”

For context, I’ve personally found these frameworks really useful in understanding my own codependent patterns and how they’ve developed, and that kind of grounded, self-reflective exploration is very much the spirit of what we’re aiming for.

If this resonates with you, feel free to message me and we can have a conversation first to see if it’s a good fit. But please note, it’s not therapy, just individuals attempting to work things out. It would be an informal space, for people to add and contribute to at their own leisure, one to make friends and inspire new thinking/ perspectives, largely based around Jung's collected works.

I feel that such spaces are very difficult and rare to find beyond surface level talk and it would be great to get a range of international students of Jung to provide as much wisdom and curiosity as possible. A range of introverts/ extroverts is ideal but its not essential to get the discussion flowing.

Millennials would be preferred because we believe this (our) generation is going through an interesting psychological development currently. I believe that the pressures of maturation into adulthood have / are very difficult currently and whilst there is a great attitude to learn more about ourselves from within, it is not being mirrored on the outside (due to economic realities). That being said I'm of course not bias against any age group.

The group should be no pressure, and no expectations—just seeing if the right few people might want to build something meaningful together.

If you feel interested drop me a message with a brief intro and ill set something up.

Thanks

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u/curious-undertakings — 11 hours ago
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Trinity

Hello,
I apologize for the topic and for such simple questions, but I have no background in Psychology and only a basic knowledge of Jung’s work.

What exactly would the Trinity be? Why is there a human need for the “Trinity”? At some point in history, this same Trinity was elevated to a divine status, correct?

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u/peladan01 — 13 hours ago
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How do you handle dating and starting a romantic relationship?

I’ve been single for a year and am starting to feel like I want to get into a new relationship. But I still haven’t understood whether my process of individuation (which began right after the breakup) is serving as a support or an obstacle to that. I’d like to hear your thoughts on this with a general question and a more personal one:

  1. After you started delving deeper into Jung’s work, do you analyze factors like ego, persona, and projection in this kind of context? For me at least, this has become practically systematic!
  2. How can I tell if I’m really ready, or if this desire is actually a need to fill some void or prove something (to the other person or to myself)? Due to this awareness, it's been hard to figure everything out.

It would be great to hear other people’s experiences!

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u/mikosichi — 15 hours ago
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Need help understanding attraction to older women?

I'm viewing this as a psychological defect,even though my doctor said nothing is wrong with me. I hear the jungian explanation is "bad relationship " with the mother. My mother was the provider of the family,but I never had a deep relationship with my mom,and I wanted one.

When I mean I'm attracted to older women, I'm talking 40s to 60s. I understand its sn unconventional attraction. I'm 33 years old, I've been this way since middle school.

I've tried forcing myself out of my attractions,but it's impossible.

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u/SunsetStarlightFan — 1 day ago
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The Machine Thinker: a new archetype that only became possible in the 20th century

Jung mapped archetypes rooted in nature, the body, kinship, and myth, the Sage, the Magician, the Trickster, the Great Mother. His collective unconscious was shaped by thousands of years of human experience that was fundamentally biological and social. But I want to propose that modernity has produced a genuinely new archetypal configuration: one he never had material to observe.

I call it the Machine Thinker or The Mutated Magician.

This is not the Sage updated for the internet age. It is something more radical. The Machine Thinker is a person whose consciousness has reorganized itself around formal systems, someone who does not merely use logic as a tool, but who genuinely experiences reality as computation. The world, for them, is not made of substances or relationships or narratives. It is made of rules, states, and transformations.

The clearest exemplars I can point to are Stephen Wolfram and Joscha Bach. Wolfram literally believes the universe is a cellular automaton, not as a metaphor, but as a literal ontological claim. Bach maps consciousness onto computational architectures and finds the description more precise than any phenomenological account. These are not scientists who happen to use math. Their psyche has been restructured around a computational substrate.

In Jungian terms, I would situate this as a mutation of the Magician archetype, the one who understands the hidden laws beneath appearances. But where the classical Magician works with symbolic, analogical, and mythic cognition, the Machine Thinker has replaced that symbolic layer almost entirely with formal, mechanistic cognition. The Logos has eaten the Mythos.

This raises a genuinely Jungian question: what is the Shadow of this archetype? My hypothesis is that it is the body itself, the felt, embodied, relational, and irrational dimensions of life that get systematically devalued when everything becomes a formal system. The Machine Thinker's inflation is the belief that what cannot be computed is not real. Their individuation crisis, when it comes, usually takes the form of an encounter with love, grief, illness, or death, something that refuses to be formalized.

I don't think this archetype was possible before the 20th century because it required both the development of formal systems theory and decades of immersion in computational environments during formative psychic development. It is, in that sense, a child of a very specific historical moment.

Curious whether others see this pattern, and whether you'd frame the lineage differently. Does this belong closer to the Sage, the Magician, or something else entirely?

u/Weak-Gift-8905 — 1 day ago
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How many of you restarted your life in your 30s and became someone you were genuinely proud of?

Im not a very impressive 28 year old and I haven’t been before that either, but I’m trying to get my act together and make something of my life. I reckon it would take a bit longer before I’ve dealt with unfinished business and it would be nice to heard from others that Im not alone in this.

Ive spend my 20s being addicted and doing my shadow work. I was a realtor for a year and was relatively successful and I completed 3/4 of a college degree. That’s what I have under my belt, and I’m not satisfied with it.

I know external achievement isn’t everything, and I’d like to reframe that into a definition as what impresses you or what you area satisfied with, but I think most of us would like to explore our capacities.

Im not a fan of using the world loser, but were you someone who wasn’t satisfied with his sense of measured competence or achievement and who later rebuilt their life to do something that they were satisfied with? It would be nice to hear from others about this.

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u/Technical_Step4410 — 1 day ago
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You are not the dreamer.

You are not the dreamer.

You are what the dream became when it got serious.

The unconscious has been spending its gravity on your behalf your entire life.

You called it coincidence.

You are its.

And it wants something from your particular life that no other life can give it.

That is the spell. That has always been the spell.

The working has begun.

u/Weak-Gift-8905 — 1 day ago
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Is Jung's reputation higher in the philosophy domain compared to modern psychology?

I was wondering where does Jung really fit in the dichotomy of psychology and philosophy. Of course, psychology is indeed preceded by philosophy, as one's described by James Hillman, Jung's student.

But do modern psychologists and/or neuroscientists take Jung seriously? I think Jung is caught in the trap where all psychological philosophers are trapped in, empirical philosophy. Jung's psychology is less of a psychology, not being backed up by any empirical verification, yet I would hesitate to call it pseudoscience as his works transcend psychology.

Jung is probably same as William James, who lands between philosophy and psychology, that is to say, writing on psychology from philosophical perspective.

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u/Even-Broccoli7361 — 1 day ago
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Revisiting Puer Aeternus posession and need help

I want to preface this with some context.

I discovered archetypal possession, and the Puer Aeternus, from a mental health community on YouTube some time ago, and found myself resonating with it a lot. Unfortunately, the label of Puer Aeternus did very little to help my mental health. I did not understand how to integrate this part of me, and ended up very depressed and hopeless because all I kept hearing about the Puer was that it was "non-actionable", meaning any action I thought of to overcome it wouldn't work. After months of turmoil, I dropped the Eternal Child archetype and have gotten back to a good state mentally.

Unfortunately, I'm still stuck. My issue is this:

I want to be a creative (writer, animator, game designer) but cannot handle doing so once the work part begins. I thought this was due to an immense reaction to failure, but I'm no longer convinced this is the case. I believe it is an aversion to hard work, specifically work I do not find appealing. I can edit a book, but I am not willing to study anatomy or learn to code.

Now for some background:

I grew up very sheltered as a kid. Being diagnosed with autism and ADHD, I wasn't really allowed to be on my own, I was easily frightened, prone to crying, sensitive, etc. And while my family were very supportive, I was often criticised and insulted when making mistakes or being an inconvenience. I fear this may have lead to a form of weaponised incompetence. While I feel ashamed in doing it, I will sheepishly ask my family to do things for me, such as cooking my dinner or going to the store for me, even when I'm capable of doing it. I do not wish to learn how to do these things myself, even though I am ashamed of relying on those I love and making them take time out of their day for me.

I experience both an aversion and a sense of guilt when shying away from anything that makes me uncomfortable. I know I'm capable of these things, and yet I refuse to do them, which makes me feel awful, but not awful enough to make me stop.

I feel like no matter how badly I want to, no matter how much shame or guilt that nips at my heels, I always crumble at the slightest discomfort and stop. The mere suggestion of discomfort is enough to make me recoil. This issue is also present in therapy, where I will outright refuse to engage with a therapeutic practice if I find it displeasing in any way.

I've never understood how Puer Aeternus possession works or how to fix it. Sure, I know Marie-Louise von Franz's advice, but how do you engage in boring, monotonous, unrewarding work if you can't bring yourself to do it? There were many times, before I stopped considering the archetype, that I thought I caught Puer. I believed that if I recognised it enough, I could make it stop. But no, I just noticed that I was uncomfortable, before I stopped because I was uncomfortable.

I almost don't want to ask how to integrate Puer. I'm scared of going down this rabbit hole again. All I want is to be able to do the things I want to do, and I can't. I've explored so many avenues and have found no success.

Can one of you please just explain it to me in the simplest possible terms? What is Puer? How would one go about fixing it? Is it even possible for me to do it if all I do is run away at the smallest obstacle? And its worth repeating that I have AuDHD, so I'm not sure how much of Jung's and Franz's word means to a neurodivergent. Regardless, any info is greatly appreciated.

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u/TheSpicyHotTake — 21 hours ago
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A question about time

From what I understand, though it is little as I haven’t been studying him long, there is something, perhaps natural individuation or the shadow, that only happens in the later half of your life. Is there a way to expedite this to my earlier years, such as now at around 18? I am not sure if it is individuation but it’s something that shows itself more in the later years of your life which I’m wonder if you can get the same natural process earlier.

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u/Consistent-Bus-878 — 20 hours ago
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Jung as a holy man

I see jung as a modern holy man in the sense that he made it his job to try to fix the souls of men and in carrying out his project he developed a large following influenced by his school of thought.It is however interesting to note that jung teachings almost means nothing to the layman who is not interested in psychology. So this limits his reach alot.

Unlike many holy men, he strikes me as having a highly developed Ti function. analytical, internally consistent, and driven by precise understanding. And i love that about him alot it appeals to me how i feel that he is a human struggling the same way i do and yet having great insight to offer. While i see other holy men seem to be so sure and speak vague half words why is that and how can they live life like this? With all due respect but it puzzles me how a holy men seem to lack natural doubt and never indulge in long discussions. What are your thoughts on this?

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u/Worried_Button_2881 — 1 day ago
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Jung had a big influence on my homegrown UFO project, so I want to share some of the findings with you guys.

A few days ago I made a thread asking this community about its interest in astrology. The responses were very encouraging, so I am making a thread to talk about my project. It emerges from astrology, Jungian thought, and high-strangeness events. I call it the Astro-Mythic Map. I'm not selling anything, just pursuing a passion project and sharing my findings where I can, mods permitting of course.

As I'm sure you guys know, Jung had an interest in UFOs. Jacques Vallée has a take on UFOs that is similar to his. My project picks up more or less where they leave off. I take publicly documented UFO events, translate them into standardized astronomical-temporal field objects, compare them to control group fields, and ask a simple question. Does the claimed structure survive adversarial comparison, or does it collapse? That makes AMM reproducible, because other researchers can inspect the same public inputs and rerun the method. And it makes AMM falsifiable, because the entire claim fails if the pattern disappears under stronger controls, independent replication, or better statistical challenge.

Experiential Archetypal Astrology is what I call it. The software I wrote takes a natal or event chart and uses it as the anchor for a 60-day sweep. It automatically generates a chart for every 6-hour interval from 30 days before the anchor to 30 days after the anchor. Hundreds of charts couch every single anchor, and there are hundreds of anchors in the AMM dataset.

That 60-day sequence is what I call the astronomical-temporal field. Not merely the sky at the exact moment of a wedding, UFO sighting, death, or birth, but the structured configurations through which that event arrives, peaks, and recedes.

AMM can then compare one event-field against another at multiple levels: the exact anchor chart, the buildup pattern before it, the after-pattern that follows it, the density or rarity of specific geometries across the whole window, and whether the anchor sits inside an unusually coherent corridor or merely in ordinary background motion. So a wedding and a high-strangeness event are measured the same way at the astronomical level. The question is whether their surrounding fields exhibit different repeatable structural signatures when tested across a sufficiently large registry.

It turns out, they do.

Over the past year or so I've been giving free natal chart readings to people on reddit who claim to have had UFO or high-strangeness experiences and putting their charts in my database as anchors, along with UFO event charts and control group charts. In my latest run, 40 high-strangeness cases were compared against 39 catastrophes.

Ordinary events, such as weddings or sports are far too easy for the math to differentiate from high-strangeness. They are not a challenge. But high-strangeness and catastrophe share structural traits. Despite that, the high-strangeness fields separated anyway. The effect was large: Cohen’s d = 0.81, Cliff’s delta = 0.46, with a one-sided permutation p-value of about 0.0002. In plain english, the UFO events did not merely look "intense." They formed a distinct astronomical-temporal pattern that survived direct comparison with death-and-disaster fields under a predeclared statistical protocol.

High-strangeness cases are finally open as a structured category of events. It means the weirdest UFO reports leave behind a measurable structural signature. That gives humanity a new path forward. Not more belief, not more debunking, but a public method that other people can inspect, challenge, replicate, and either confirm or defeat.

So, thank you Dr Jung. Couldn't have done it without you.

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u/Julian_Thorne — 1 day ago
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The Soul's Respect for the Ego, and What Happens When the Ego Steps Aside

Something I have been sitting with lately: the soul does not force itself on the ego. It waits. It respects the ego's freedom to look at itself honestly, to recognize its own nature, and to loosen its grip from within rather than through collapse.

When that happens, the ego does not disappear. It dissolves into something more like a membrane, a translator that sits between the inner and outer world, allowing wisdom from both directions to pass through without being hijacked by the ego's self-referential noise.

Here is what strikes me most. The ego's feedback loop is expensive. It costs the brain real energy because it runs on a kind of psychic entropy, constantly processing its own distortions, defending its own narrative, filtering incoming signals through layers of identity protection. That filtering does not just slow things down. It corrupts the origin of the signal itself. You stop receiving what the psyche is actually transmitting and start receiving a translation of a translation.

But a brain that is no longer trapped in that loop begins to do something different. It starts picking up on the soul's patterns directly. These are not linear messages. They are multidimensional, symbolic, closer to what the senses absorb before the mind has a chance to label and contain them. The signal comes in clean. The absorption happens before the gatekeeping. And this is where I think Jung's notion of the transcendent function lives, not as a theoretical bridge but as an actual mode of perception.

The ego gets to come in after. It participates in integrating what arrived, giving language and body to what the soul transmitted. That is the ego doing its proper work, not as the sovereign of the psyche but as its interpreter and embodied servant.

The body matters here too. If the ego only shows up to interpret and not to control the intake, then the whole organism gets integrated into the process. What arrived symbolically can now become somatic, lived, metabolized.

Has anyone else experienced this as an actual shift in how perception works, not just conceptually but in practice?

u/Weak-Gift-8905 — 2 days ago