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Of course a misandrnisit change in government policy brings out the misandrinists in the comments

UK is introducing an entire curiculum to teach boys only to respect girls and women, someone suggested they also bring this education for the girls too (ya know, equality) and the comment section melts down because how dare a man call for equality.

u/Final-Custard394 — 3 days ago
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u/JohtoMaster_Gold — 12 days ago
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Revisiting the History of Feminism (1st wave)

I came across an extremely small youtube channel that does long-form content under 10 minutes. Within a short time, there were key points he has brought up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuaIdMD2w_s

In part 1, it touched on Olympe De Gue and Mary Wollestonecraft. They were considered proto-feminist figures. The youtube content creator points to 1792 where he discuses both of them. In this video, he talks about the gap between 1792 to 1848 (the same year seneca falls convention was established). There's a 56 year gap.

He argued that in those gaps, Feminism nearly died, but came back in an unexpected way.

1793 - Olympe de gue was executed for opposition towards government,

1797 - Mary Wollestonecraft died of childbirth complication. A year later, her husband released a memoir that detailed her affairs, illegitimate child, and attempts to unalive herself. These things were considered to have ruined her reputation in those times. Which meant ideas associated with those 2 became known as toxic.

The child whom Wollestonecraft died giving birth to is known as Mary Shelly, the author of Frankenstein.

in 1804, Napoleon introduced the Napoleon Code in France, which restricted rights of women and subordinated them to men. This is different from coverture because at least unmarried women had independence at that time. Under the code, an unmarried woman (even as an adult) would be subrodinated to her father until marriage, which she's subordinated to her husband.

There were other things happening in the 19th century. Rights were expanding, citizenship was changing, but the legal dependance remained.

He also mentioned it was a rise (mostly in the US and UK) of a new ideology called separate spheres (women in private, men in public). He said on paper it seems to respect women, but in practice it locks them outside the public sphere even more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U9v7MKvnC_Y

He then continued to say the woman question seemed burried on paper since feminism was almost dead, but the question was quietly alive through a movement nobody expected. It was the movement to end slavery between 1820s to 30s. The women put work into that. Even with legal restrictions placed on women, there was a loophole of making them moral guardians.

Women can write, speak, discuss about it but do it quietly. Then came the Grimke sisters, who took those same sentiments and made it public, aimed at men in authority. This act was considered taboo because it's considered unnatural for a woman to speak that way as God gave her a more quieter role.

There was also Sarah who spoke out in 1838. By this point, the connection was being seen and can't be unseen. So what happened in 1848, the events before that point was already planting seeds.

Why am I sharing this? These were facts I haven't considered during my own research into it, but it sheds new light on how it created conditions where these ideas can shape and take place.

u/JohtoMaster_Gold — 13 days ago