r/MalaysianExMuslim

Greetings! I'm yet another ex-muslim that is currently hiding it from everyone I know irl. I'm sure a lot of you are in the same boat, and I really just want to let out my frustrations regarding it.

Every. Single. Day. 5 prayers that I cannot skip because my mom is always watching me. The only ones I actually can skip are Dhuhr and Isha prayers. Dhuhr only on weekdays since my mom is out taking care of my cousins, and Isha because I stay up late, and can easily lie to my mom about having done it while she was asleep. It's a routine, but one that I hate. All I'm doing is going through the motions that have been engrained in me since I was little and reciting things I vaguely recall now to make sure I get the timing right and not looking like I'm being "reckless".

And speaking of my mom—I've tried to tell her before how I don't like being in this religion, how I don't think it's not for me and tried to explain why. But alas, she shut me down and told me that I was just losing faith and should pray to Allah for Guidance and some other bullshit. Eventually I gave up because clearly I won't get through to her.

Don't get me wrong, I love my mom. She's wonderful, still makes meals for me everyday and cares for my wellbeing. She even gets me things that I want so long as it's within reasonable budget. But... the only thing that makes me dislike being with her is every single religious aspect of our lives. Prayers, sometimes making me read parts of the quran with her... I just— I really hate it. I hate it so badly that I can't have the freedom I want with these things.

And lets not forget to mention the everyday reminders that people in this country can be literal religious freaks. I met a doctor, I thought she was kind, because she noticed that I was struggling mentally (I had, and still sorta am dealing with depression) and offered to get me assigned to a counselor. But of course, at some point she had to spit out some religious bullshit at me too. She was very clearly a firm believer, which inclined me to be unable to trust my counselor with the knowledge I'm an ex-muslim.

Polytechnic dormmates. When I went to Poli (since my mom is very insistent that I need to at least go to college/poli/uni the moment I graduated highschool) (society norms, amirite?) the first batch of dormmates I had were genuinely wonderful. They were funny, and my roommate didn't care at all about doing prayers so I could skip them without judgement at all. However, the dormmates in my second semester are... on the opposite end. They were nice enough, I guess. Extremely loud. And I just so happened to be paired with a roommate who religiously upkeeps these prayer things. Oh, the sheer terror I felt when she asked me whether I wanted to do prayers with her...

I'm out of Poli now, though. My depression got really bad at some point that I chose to drop out (this was before I met a counselor).

Multiple times have I considered that I could simply walk outside, hair out and pretend I'm not a Muslim. Many times have people commented that I look half chinese, which I considered taking advantage of. I even asked someone if I went out with free hair if they would mistake me as chinese, and they said yes. I always feared that this could backfire though... I don't know any mandarin or anything, but I suppose my accent would help. Some also commented that the way I speak was different from a typical Malay, which is probably due to me growing up speaking English more than Malay LOL

Ah, but it does get exhausting keeping the facade up sometimes. I really want to move out of the country someday, maybe somewhere in Europe, but that will have to wait until I can get a sustainable income. Rant over, apologies for how lengthy this is... I really needed to let some steam out

i feel like SOME malay muslims hold the same views as trump / maga but just in a different font and they dont wanna admit it at all, for example, ketuanan melayu, wishing rpe and harm onto immigrants (although i agree the immigration system should be a little bit controlled. I DO NOT SUPPORT HARM AGAINST IMMIGRANTS ), extremist islam in some states, and putting harmful streotypes on some ethnicitities. this might be controversial but its been on my mind for a long time and i hate how its like this.

Hello and good day or evening 👋

I’m making this post to speak my thoughts on this as I noticed that this prophecy kinda thing seems to be present among some people

The main thing here is PROPHECY. I wished to know how to put into words but I think it would be quite a way to learn or be aware of this pattern when trying to learn what kind of mindset the people are having.

A lot of time whenever I listen to some interviews from such Channel like “The Line” and many ex-moose channel I always noticed Prophecy always pop up from time to time. And the Prophecy stuff just so ambiguous to me as the one I know it’s the “end of time” and such

The big thing I feel ridiculous is that some people believe this prophecy (together with many version).
When I recall myself growing up I never take the prophecy stuff serious thus it never occurred to me at all

The question here:

1. Do you believe any prophecy of some kind when growing up.
2. What are your thoughts on the prophecy stuff.

I know this is like not the best subreddit for it and it breaks rule number 2 but if I ask this question in other subreddit, they won't understand where I'm standing

It's bad, a lot of my problem stems from not being able to speak my mind and value so I've been having panic attack(?) more often now.

I've tried searching when I was 17 but I've heard a lot of bad reviews/stories about therapists in Malaysia; from having said to rely on the god and pray more often to get rid of anxiety and depression or dismissing their own trauma, or having your own therapist betray you by telling your parents about your situation

so it never crosses my mind again until today

Preferably, i want the companies to have a lot of non-muslim as I can't speak my mind properly with another muslim and LGBTQ+ acceptance

I'm doing my own research on it but I still feel like I can't trust them

How is it fair for a Just God to send the final critical message to one specific region on earth? A person's religion is almost entirely decided by where they are born. Muslims condemn Jews acting entitled that they are the chosen people by god but the logic applies to muslims on a broader scale.

If god already knows the future, he knew exactly what culture and religion a person would be born into before creating them. Punishing non muslims with eternal hell for shirk means god is punishing them for a destiny.

Muslims claim Qada and Qadr are like different branches on a tree, and we use "free will" to choose a branch based on faith. But when we ask hard questions, we get that we kurang iman. It makes no sense for a loving god to punish us for exploring different paths when he created the possibilities.

If this Allah is all powerful and Islam is the divine religion and way of life for all humans, then why is his religion so easily weaponized by flawed humans? Calling it a TEST contradicts the idea of a loving creator. A truly loving parent guides and holds their child. They don't leave a 1400 year old book and go silent while humans continue to evolve.

The bigger picture is a humanised God

We are told god is perfect, yet scripture constantly gives him human traits like anger, disappointment, and a need for praise. A perfect creator should not have a need to be worshipped. Needing validation makes a deity look insecure.

Look at the universe: stars are born, shine beautifully, then eventually swallowed by black holes. There is creation, suffering, and destruction happening all at once. So god probably isn't a parent or judge, it is a neutral cosmic engine/deity driving a cycle.

An “evil” deity need to destroy things forever. To do this, it must also create constantly. This deity is totally unaffected by the destruction, gaining and losing nothing. Therefore, it isn't actually evil. It is just completely indifferent.

Ultimately, if this all loving Allah exists, he would not allow his creations to suffer eternally in jahannam. And if the creator of the universe is actually just an indifferent cosmic engine, then human worship is entirely pointless.

Mari ke kedai kopi gaya Malaysian,

Tempat kita sembang penuh gelak tawa.

Kongsi saja celoteh mingguan,

Hilang penat, hati pun ceria.

"Serpihan komunis Melayu" video 28:47 in Malay language

History prevents repeating mistakes & wrongs.

Hope the video testimony shed a little happiness for anyone who needs it.

Yk how in english Allah is always referred to he? if Allah doesn't have a gender, why not just use any pronouns or "it"? why specifically he? it was even used in translation of Quran/hadiths

hey everyone! i wanna introduce myself but i don’t even fully know what i am yet. i usually see myself as agnostic, but other than that, idk. sometimes i feel like i align a lot with atheism, but other times, i get this weird discomfort around the idea of there being no god at all.

as an agnostic, i don’t really think god can be proven scientifically, so it kinda comes down to faith alone. after deconstructing islam for quite a while, i don’t think i align with its teachings or the values it brings. i feel the same way about other organised religions, so i don’t subscribe to any of them.

but have you guys ever felt scared? like, i know it’s probably just psychological, because humans naturally fear uncertainty, and nobody actually knows what happens after we die. maybe that’s why religion brings comfort to some people. like muslims, christians, or religious people in general might feel happier believing they’ll go to heaven because they believe it exists. and ngl, sometimes i find myself wanting that comfort too.

one of my criticisms of islam is the idea of eternal punishment for a limited amount of “rebellion” on earth. why tf does 60 years of sin = burning forever? it just feels unjust to me. why would god do that? but then my brain goes, “okay, but what if hell is real? what if god actually exists… and he’s just bad?” lol. i know that sounds wild, but i can’t always stop myself from thinking about it.

my life has honestly been better since i stopped stressing over religious obligations and all that, but every once in a while, i still catch myself spiralling over the unknown future of my sad little mortal life. any thoughts?

• Denmark plans nationwide ban on Islamic call to prayer.
• Government cites integration and public space concerns.
• Proposal may face constitutional and human rights challenges.
• Denmark extends restrictive immigration and integration policy.

Denmark's center-left government has announced plans to ban the Islamic call to prayer from being broadcast over loudspeakers, arguing that the practice has "no place in Denmark" as the country pursues one of Europe's toughest immigration and integration policies.

Immigration Minister Morten Bødskov said the government would reopen a legal review into whether a nationwide prohibition on the adhan the Islamic call to prayer recited five times daily can be introduced without violating constitutional protections on religious freedom.

The proposal follows years of restrictive migration policies under Prime Minister Mette Frederiksen's Social Democratic government, which has sought to reduce immigration while emphasizing cultural integration.

The announcement comes as several European governments continue tightening oversight of religious practices, foreign-funded mosques and immigration amid growing political debate over national identity and social cohesion. While Denmark has not yet introduced legislation, legal experts say any nationwide ban would likely be scrutinized under both the Danish Constitution and the European Convention on Human Rights, which protects freedom of religion while allowing proportionate restrictions for public order and the rights of others.

Government Says Public Call to Prayer 'Has No Place in Denmark'

"The call to prayer should not be heard over Danish rooftops," Bødskov told Danish news agency Ritzau. "It has no place in Denmark, and you shouldn't be in any doubt whether you've ended up in a suburb of Islamabad when you walk around Denmark."

The minister also argued that what he described as the country's "Islamisation" was occupying too much public space. His comments mark the third attempt by a Danish immigration minister to establish a legal framework for restricting the public broadcast of the adhan after similar initiatives were launched in 2020 and 2025.

Several Danish municipalities already restrict outdoor calls to prayer through local environmental and noise regulations. Copenhagen's Grand Mosque, one of approximately 100 mosques operating across Denmark, does not broadcast the adhan outdoors under an agreement with local authorities. According to Statistics Denmark, Muslims account for roughly 270,000 people in the country's population of about 6 million residents.

Denmark Has Tightened Immigration Rules Under Frederiksen

The proposed ban forms part of a broader immigration agenda pursued by Frederiksen since taking office in 2019. Denmark has implemented measures including the controversial "parallel societies" legislation formerly known as the "ghetto" laws which allows authorities to intervene in neighborhoods with high concentrations of non-Western immigrants.

The country also drew international attention for legislation requiring some asylum seekers to surrender valuable assets above a prescribed threshold to help cover accommodation costs, while rejected asylum applicants are generally ineligible for standard welfare benefits.

During Europe's 2015 migration crisis, Denmark accepted significantly fewer asylum applications than neighboring Germany and Sweden, reflecting its increasingly restrictive asylum policy.

Frederiksen began her third term earlier this month after forming a four-party coalition comprising the Social Democrats, Moderates, Social Liberals and Green Left following the March election. Although the coalition does not command an outright parliamentary majority, it is supported externally by the Red-Green Alliance, allowing it to pursue its legislative agenda.

Other European Countries Have Also Restricted Islamic Public Practices

Denmark would not be the first European country to impose restrictions affecting Islamic public practices, although a nationwide ban specifically targeting the call to prayer would be among the continent's most far-reaching measures.

Muslim Woman in Burka Pixabay

Switzerland approved a constitutional ban on the construction of new mosque minarets in a national referendum held on Nov. 29, 2009. According to official results published by the Swiss Federal Chancellery, 57.5% of voters supported the amendment, with 22 of Switzerland's 26 cantons voting in favor. The constitutional amendment added Article 72(3), stating simply: "The construction of minarets is prohibited." At the time, the country had only four mosque minarets, despite an estimated Muslim population of approximately 400,000, according to the Swiss Federal Statistical Office.

Austria adopted the Islam Act 2015 (Islamgesetz 2015), which prohibited foreign funding for Islamic religious organizations and required Muslim associations to maintain what the legislation described as a "positive attitude toward the state and society." Austrian authorities said the law was intended to promote an independent Austrian form of Islam and reduce overseas influence on religious institutions. France also strengthened oversight of religious associations through its 2021 Law Reinforcing Respect for the Principles of the Republic, which President Emmanuel Macron said was designed to combat separatism while protecting religious freedom.

Germany has taken a different approach by regulating mosque loudspeakers through municipal noise ordinances rather than imposing a nationwide prohibition. In October 2021, Cologne became one of Germany's first major cities to authorize the adhan under a pilot program allowing mosques to broadcast the call once every Friday for up to five minutes, subject to strict decibel limits and neighborhood consultation. Similar rules apply in parts of the United Kingdom, where local councils determine whether mosques may use loudspeakers under environmental noise regulations.

Whether Denmark's proposed legislation ultimately becomes law will depend on the government's legal review and parliamentary support. If approved, it is expected to face judicial scrutiny over whether restricting a specific religious practice is compatible with constitutional protections and Denmark's obligations under the European Convention on Human Rights, potentially making it another landmark case in Europe's continuing debate over immigration, integration and religious freedom.

By Abhay Maitreya

June 26, 2026

www.ibtimes.sg/denmark-joins-peers-plans-ban-islamic-call-prayer-over-loudspeakers-citing-islamization-88590

I know this sounds ridiculous knowing well I would get beat up by my parents, but at this point, they'll just do anything.

Even dyeing my hair is considered bad, honestly is just exhausting knowing that this doesn't even give me any purpose or pros.

I know a lot of you guys would state "just fake it for now", I'm already giving up to the point I don't care if I get scolded.

I also hate quranic lessons because of how close the arabic words are, my glasses power is literally 500+, it hurts my eyes so badly reading words so small on one piece of paper I don't even know the meaning of.

I like reading there's no denying that, but when it comes to reading something I don't understand the meaning, it just breaks the fun out of it.

I hate this so badly, let's just say I'm a male atleast that makes it a bit better and easier, im a female, I need to wear hijab and long sleeves, is suffocating despite even having an aircond, is just a hassle I can't take the damn quran and read it straight-forwardly.

If I was an arabic male, things would go much easier, I'm not, this is so sadening, I can't belive I'm insecure about my own race and biological sex, something I'm suppose to be proud of, I am, with islam it just ruins it, how it so incriminate with race and gender.

I don't bother people who belive it, but I'm getting my throat shove with things I don't even belive.

My parents know im atheist, they just think my autism is the caused of it, is not.

Link to the full let's get it podcast

https://youtu.be/O4OGDqQTUyw?si=WStHh-pgwbxzA5Kx